WHY PEOPLE ARE QUITTING CS- A Discussion

[Audrey_Bee]

I have also had many issues with staff seeming hostile. They aren't means, but blunt and passive aggressive in their warnings.
I personally believe it's a copy and paste warning they use rather than typing it from scratch as they're usually the same so I don't personally blame them but it's always upsetting to see it and gives me the same feeling I get when someone should at me irl. I hate it, I hate doing things wrong and most of the time it's an accident.

For example, you put your age in a forum (I personally mentioned a rough age in the words of "I'm in my hundreds" but my actual age, just using hundreds as an example of how I worded It so it doesn't get deleted lol) I thought the rule was you don't say specific age so thought it was okay. It was deleted which is absolutely fair enough but because its an accident, first time doing it, just a message saying " just so you're aware, you're not allowed to mention anything about age, you're only allowed to say that you're an adult etc, this is just to let you know, if you do happen to do it continuously you could be banned, thank you for considering this message and have a lovely day!"

It's basically the same words as saying " you did this. Do not do it again or you will be banned." But nicer.

If people have continuously broke the same rule on purpose then you have to be stern but 9 tomes out of 10 it's an accident and the majority of people react better to kindness than sterness !!



Saying that, the latest warning I had was when I was defending the staff over the security system and my warning was worded nicer than usual and had a smiley face. Just that alone made me not feel like I was being attacked and informed me of a rule I broke <3

I've seen a lot of people commenting on how they're unable to tell the tone of staff posts/percieve them as more negative than they're intended, and I just wanted to suggest that perhaps staff should look into using tone tags when posting.

For example (pulling a quote from romeo & cinderella) "the oekaki is for drawing, not writing" could instead be written as "the oekaki is for drawing, not writing /nm /neu". This would help players, especially neuro divergent ones, better understand the intent behind the message and isn't hard to implement.

As it's been stated that a lot of these seem to be copy-pasted and likely from a list given to staff, perhaps the messages themselves should could through an overhaul.

One again, I'll be using the message "the oekaki board is for drawing, not writing". While it's simple and too the point, something along the lines of "hey, just a reminder that the oekaki board is for drawing, not writing" reads a whole lot gentler and still gets the point across quickly.

Adding to that some tone indicators and/or an emoticon like or <3, and you've got a message that players would have a really hard time perceiving as cold/mean/hostile/passive aggressive while still maintaining professionalism.

Professionalism and being cold/blunt don't have to be synonymous <3 /pos /gen

While I agree with the overall point that staff should put more consideration into how they communicate and come across, I wanted to gently nudge up the point that tone tags are unfortunately not an universal fix and do not help everyone. While I appreciate a good /gen, /j or /lh when needed I personally find excessive tone tag usage quite condescending and belittling as a ND individual. I'm also ESL and find it hard to memorize essentially a whole sub-language of tags for every tone, mood and intent - and I've seen multiple other non-native eng speakers echo this sentiment on the internet. ;v;

This was so far back but I've been in A&E so didn't get chance to reply lol. But I will agree with this, I don't know of this is a new generation thing but I have NO idea what tone tags are hahaha ill be honest if someone said "You have broken the rules, do not to this again blah blah blah..../gen" id just be confused and thing they were taking the Mickey lol 😂 I have no idea what any of them means. My version of tone tags is a classic smiley face. If you mean something in a nice tone, you say it with a smile

I just think, considering most warning are copy and paste (or seem that way) just pit "have a nice day " at the end. As I said before as well, it isn't every warning but it's most of them and it genuinely upsets me. I don't know why but it just does. Its a simple fix but one that a lot of people would benefit from!!!

So many of the staff are lovely people and I'm sure they'd prefer to come across that way too! <3 (sorry for changing subject again!)

[yharnam boy]

i would prefer if staff didn't use tone tags. i tend to feel mocked by them* or i unintentionally/automatically misread them (for example, i CONSTANTLY read /nm as "nevermind" and not "not mad", which makes it sound quite passive aggressive)

*i mean tone tags with "them", not staff

[SabrinaB]

Tone tags sound like an unnecessary idea/addition, because staff should always be patient, calm and professional. They should never be mad or annoyed. If they feel like they dont get through, they can ask another mod to come in/take over, but stall will never scold you. If you.feel like they do, you can report it. But i dont see the use for tone tags either. If you think they sound rude, that is because you take their professional or.blunt attitude that way, but that will never change as you can only read it. You dont see expressions, you dont hear their tones. Try to take anymessage from them as a teacher that calmly tries to explain something to you.

[Alyssa99]

, I think that for the first twelve months a new player can only trade with accounts that are also under a year old.

Yeah, absolutely not! The only reason I’m as far as I have gotten with my wishlist collection in this game was heavy usage for the first year or two of the free trades and giveaways system by older players who are leaving the site. Now I think that older players need to be as kind to newer players as they used to be, yes, but to completely take that away is unfair. Unless there’s a way how to program a distinguishing of free giveaways from older players from actual mutual trades with older players in the trading system. Like the site detects when the new player doesn’t have anything on their side and therefore allows it.

[Kay11]

I feel like the idea of newbies getting some form of free pet parcel sounds great and would be a massive help. One way to do it so it wouldn't flood the site with rares would be an option to get a "package" from the pound page that gives them 3 random pets from the pound, for example once a week/every 2 weeks for the first few months. This means they can get anything from commons to rares, from this month back to 2008, but would mean they have some form of older pets to help trade with. There's not any easy fix, but I feel like this is an easy way to solve the potential issue of giving new, guaranteed rares and devaluing them. There's also not enough new users that a few of these gifts a month would empty the pound too much.

[Alyssa99]

I feel like the idea of newbies getting some form of free pet parcel sounds great and would be a massive help. One way to do it so it wouldn't flood the site with rares would be an option to get a "package" from the pound page that gives them 3 random pets from the pound, for example once a week/every 2 weeks for the first few months. This means they can get anything from commons to rares, from this month back to 2008, but would mean they have some form of older pets to help trade with. There's not any easy fix, but I feel like this is an easy way to solve the potential issue of giving new, guaranteed rares and devaluing them. There's also not enough new users that a few of these gifts a month would empty the pound too much.

I think that would work too

[aky-mala]

I'm old user..... (since 08) i don't use forums, except for trading. But when we talk about pets, there is so much that can be done. As an old user, I still don't have pets I want, and I know that I will probably never have them. I support bringing back old pets. I have feeling that today everybody is looking values of pets (including me) I won't send trade for ex. Zebra, because I know I don't have anything that is wort zebra (ma, ur, sun,....) also only way to get hight value pets is Dec 18. And that is sad. To wait all year to get something you can trade for/off. If users got hight value pests for b-day, or join day there would be more things to bring you back. I personally don't have any problem with some vr becoming common. Most people want old pets only because of their value. Nobody like rats, but "list rats" are wanted by everyone. But if you want to trade "list rat" for "list dog" nobody will do that.


Also, I play on my phone.... Why phone users don't have same options for cs theme like computer users? We have 1 theme, maybe 2.... Computer have like 10 themes. I feel like that is not fair to all users.



Next, events on SC are great, but I think cs should take in consideration that people are getting older but are still here. For me personally cs events are too short. If you are not here from day 1 and are not frequently here to collect tokens you don't have chance to collect all pets.


I support putting age on this site. As old user, I want to know if I'm talking to a <15 or >20 people. I think it will make site more friendly.


I also thing something need to be done about users that are offline for long time (5+ years). How about sending them email about long inactivety and deleting those acc if they don't become active. I have one active trade for years, for one pet I send to inactive acc. That pet have ID I want, and user is inactive. I bet user don't even remember he have acc on this site. Again, it feels a bit unfair.


Those are some thing I have noticed and do bug me a bit, also, my English is not the best (sorry for mistakes).

[foxcloud19]

This is mostly my own pessimism, but I feel like the economy was doomed the moment we had a user run rares list. I wasn't here before its creation, but the aftermath of such a thing even existing in the first place is too far reaching at this point to fix anything. It would always be subject to people modifying it for their own personal gain. And there will always be people who abide by it as if it's law, no matter what happens, even if it's not. And at this point, it basically is law. If you don't go by the list, well, good luck trading anything at all lol. You can hardly even fix the inflation of the c$ value unless you mass toss c$ into the void, which is obviously not feasible. I personally think there is no way the administrators can implement something that would fix the economy. I feel like it's up to the users at this point.

I could not agree more here! If I’m being honest, I personally don’t think users should have been given so much freedom to set their own values for their pets as it has caused major issues with the list and everything. Which, as gamer said, people pretty much have to follow as law if you except to trade with anyone. I know this is controversial, but I think they almost have to completely revamp the trading system, how it works, and set a more strict way of valuing things. But that of course, would make so many people mad that it may not work. Unfortunately for this, I don’t think there is a good solution, it’s just too late for the trading system. I do still think there are improvements that can be made for sure, I’m just not sure it can be completely fixed anymore.

[Malleus]

This is mostly my own pessimism, but I feel like the economy was doomed the moment we had a user run rares list. I wasn't here before its creation, but the aftermath of such a thing even existing in the first place is too far reaching at this point to fix anything. It would always be subject to people modifying it for their own personal gain. And there will always be people who abide by it as if it's law, no matter what happens, even if it's not. And at this point, it basically is law. If you don't go by the list, well, good luck trading anything at all lol. You can hardly even fix the inflation of the c$ value unless you mass toss c$ into the void, which is obviously not feasible. I personally think there is no way the administrators can implement something that would fix the economy. I feel like it's up to the users at this point.

I could not agree more here! If I’m being honest, I personally don’t think users should have been given so much freedom to set their own values for their pets as it has caused major issues with the list and everything. Which, as gamer said, people pretty much have to follow as law if you except to trade with anyone. I know this is controversial, but I think they almost have to completely revamp the trading system, how it works, and set a more strict way of valuing things. But that of course, would make so many people mad that it may not work. Unfortunately for this, I don’t think there is a good solution, it’s just too late for the trading system. I do still think there are improvements that can be made for sure, I’m just not sure it can be completely fixed anymore.

I'd really just be into expanding the rarity tags.

'Rare' and 'Very rare' are almost meaningless at this point.

They revamped the rarity system in the past by changing a lot of pet rarities around to better reflect the status of the pet, but it didn't actually solve the issue in that the 'rare' tag is WAY too bloated with pets that aren't actually that rare in comparison to others within the same rarity tag.

I'd love to slap two more tiers in there. Rare > New Tier > Very Rare > New Tier > OMG so rare

Dunno what to call those tiers though, but my biggest issue with trading is how little 'rare' even means because the tag is so bloated.

[coffee.berry]

I feel like the idea of newbies getting some form of free pet parcel sounds great and would be a massive help. One way to do it so it wouldn't flood the site with rares would be an option to get a "package" from the pound page that gives them 3 random pets from the pound, for example once a week/every 2 weeks for the first few months. This means they can get anything from commons to rares, from this month back to 2008, but would mean they have some form of older pets to help trade with. There's not any easy fix, but I feel like this is an easy way to solve the potential issue of giving new, guaranteed rares and devaluing them. There's also not enough new users that a few of these gifts a month would empty the pound too much.

I think that would work too

I agree with this idea as well!