WHY PEOPLE ARE QUITTING CS- A Discussion

[Ziggy Stardust]

This may be a wild take and probably won't make sense, but as an oldish soul on this website, having been here since 2012, this is something I was thinking about.

CS, over the years, took MANY stances to 'remove negativity' from it's forums. It killed the trade rant thread. It killed the 'things that annoy you' thread. It constantly has killed off places where the users could expressive negative opinions about things. Even if those opinions were following all CS rules by not naming names. Mods really locked down on 'bullying and harassment' and while I fully support that decision, it has exasperated the issue I have with the mods.

Mods have the ability to come off as blunt or rude. They are in the position of power to do so.

But that ability has over time been removed from the users.

Which is why I think the mods sounding 'rude or blunt' is more of an issue, or something users notice more, because the mods sometimes speak in a way that users frankly aren't allowed to.

I didn't notice the mod bluntness NEARLY as much when I first joined, but in that 2015-2017 era where all those threads started getting deleted and CS cracked down harder on its rules and what was allowed? BOY did I notice it then.

Again, wild take and probably nonsensical but I miss being able to be unhappy or angry about things as long as I was following the rules.

Your take kindof sums up the reason why this thread got so popular so fast. Because the options to discuss unhappiness wasn't there much.

I don't really get this take though (and please feel free to correct me if I'm missing something here). You're saying we don't allow people to express unhappiness but this thread is still up/active and we are engaging with you guys on it so how can both be true at once?

The TRT had to be removed because it became a major source of straight up bullying. We of course allow negativity, just not at the expense of other users.

They are trying to say this thread is the only place they've been able to express negativity on this site in a long time, or at least feel it's the only place.

[damagedcoda]

as a new player, it does suck that I won’t get to experience the older events. maybe event re-runs ? that would be so cool,,

OH MY GOD, YES.
We totally need to re-run the Slumber Party/Dreams vs. Nightmares event, especially because we never knew who won

I like this!!!!!!!

[FeatheredCreature]

Interesting, I don't think I ever realized the site was very friend oriented but it does make sense. Nobody I've run into outside the site even knows it exists, and my sister lost interest after like a year. So I've always just kinda played by myself. I don't really participate in forum activities like closed Species either. don't have much to add but I hope the site still does well. as it's been my favorite pet site since I joined. I like that I can just go on a few times a month and not miss anything. I haven't found anything else quite like it.

[far]

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Glad to see u post, ive been seeing u lurking in here lol, I would love to see the instagram get used again! And seeing certain staff who are up to help run it would be a great way to get the ball rolling!

I posted Yesterday too! I always get involved with these conversations and throw in ideas I'd like to see and get involved in or build off of other's ideas.

I can't really get involved on the staff side of it as GHs don't give warnings but I have such a hard time putting on a "business face". I just want to be friends with everyone lol

oh shoot mustve missed it. I do really love ur idea about staff taking reign of the instagram and the reels will be very helpful to get the site seen and get more players joining in. including with what u said "how staff get ready to CS" within no face reveal, itll be cool to see some of the back end work going on!

Yes! I think it would help players feel more connected to staff too! It would help staff feel more personable (if they wanted to ofc).

as a new player, it does suck that I won’t get to experience the older events. maybe event re-runs ? that would be so cool,,

OH MY GOD, YES.
We totally need to re-run the Slumber Party/Dreams vs. Nightmares event, especially because we never knew who won

I would absolutely adore event re-runs!!

[Celozon]

Both are still very true. I was asked to remove an "i hate chickensmoothie" gif from my profile. If it had said literally ANY other game side from CS it would've been fine.
So in that case, how can both be true at once?

An 'I hate genshin impact' stamp wouldn't be allowed any more than 'I hate flight rising' or 'I hate chicken smoothie'. Per the following site rule;

“Anti-” statements in user profiles or as a thread topic. Statements may break this rule even if they do not include the prefix “anti-” if they are intended to be negative. Please express your interests in a positive manner.

[mourning dove]

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I don't really get this take though (and please feel free to correct me if I'm missing something here). You're saying we don't allow people to express unhappiness but this thread is still up/active and we are engaging with you guys on it so how can both be true at once?

The TRT had to be removed because it became a major source of straight up bullying. We of course allow negativity, just not at the expense of other users.

honestly i feel like its less of a choice whether or not to leave this thread up .. like yeah you guys can lock it but also that’ll just upset more people and it’ll turn into ‘were being silenced’ or something like that
we dont have any other threads to show unhappiness on, which is why all of this is comin out at once …

[LiaTsu]

This may be a wild take and probably won't make sense, but as an oldish soul on this website, having been here since 2012, this is something I was thinking about.

CS, over the years, took MANY stances to 'remove negativity' from it's forums. It killed the trade rant thread. It killed the 'things that annoy you' thread. It constantly has killed off places where the users could expressive negative opinions about things. Even if those opinions were following all CS rules by not naming names. Mods really locked down on 'bullying and harassment' and while I fully support that decision, it has exasperated the issue I have with the mods.

Mods have the ability to come off as blunt or rude. They are in the position of power to do so.

But that ability has over time been removed from the users.

Which is why I think the mods sounding 'rude or blunt' is more of an issue, or something users notice more, because the mods sometimes speak in a way that users frankly aren't allowed to.

I didn't notice the mod bluntness NEARLY as much when I first joined, but in that 2015-2017 era where all those threads started getting deleted and CS cracked down harder on its rules and what was allowed? BOY did I notice it then.

Again, wild take and probably nonsensical but I miss being able to be unhappy or angry about things as long as I was following the rules.

Your take kindof sums up the reason why this thread got so popular so fast. Because the options to discuss unhappiness wasn't there much.

I don't really get this take though (and please feel free to correct me if I'm missing something here). You're saying we don't allow people to express unhappiness but this thread is still up/active and we are engaging with you guys on it so how can both be true at once?

The TRT had to be removed because it became a major source of straight up bullying. We of course allow negativity, just not at the expense of other users.

Im going to try to word this as best as possible, pardon if anything sounds rude, I have autism so if it sounds rude its not my intention.

The reason why this is both true at once right now, in theory, would be BECAUSE of the mass flock of users to this thread. If staff were to nip it in the bud right now, it would probably just enrage the userbase and overall not be good for the site. Correct me if you'd like but it just feels like if a similar thread would start but not catch eyes as much as this one did because of the word QUITTING (props to the thread maker, that is textbook business psychology of advertisement lol) , then it would probably already be deleted by now.

Of course there's also the fact that this particular thread has remained civil for the most part. If TRT would lead to bullying, then why not just keep a close eye on moderating it and editing users posts, like it's being done here in this thread? Users need a conduct to voice their opinions that isn't off site either, so that it can remain civil and available for all. I understand if TRT was too intense, but a different, better regulated thread could take it's place. I'm a big user of neopets too and while I don't use their forums much, I know that people are allowed to rant there about their feelings with the sites organisation.

[Infailia]

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oh shoot mustve missed it. I do really love ur idea about staff taking reign of the instagram and the reels will be very helpful to get the site seen and get more players joining in. including with what u said "how staff get ready to CS" within no face reveal, itll be cool to see some of the back end work going on!

Speaking of the mysterious back-end, it might be fun to get a little 'sneak peek' at upcoming litters/items. Not a whole design or anything, but really zoomed in or ridiculously blurred with little to no context given to help build up some excitement for future releases. Or, potentially, a timelapse of one of the designs at the end of the month or seeing designs that didn't quite make the cut.

[Simon]

Both are still very true. I was asked to remove an "i hate chickensmoothie" gif from my profile. If it had said literally ANY other game side from CS it would've been fine.
So in that case, how can both be true at once?



This isn’t true, our rules state that no anti statements in profiles are allowed so if it was any other game we still wouldn’t allow it.

[Darni]

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Tons of artists on the site that could probably make a talking GIF/png to be used so no one has to face reveal c: