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Re: Questionable Items

Postby StarryWish. » Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:18 am

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Re: Questionable Items

Postby Little Trickster » Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:21 am

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Re: Questionable Items

Postby Celozon » Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:29 am

Cyrano wrote:I moved the forum post to the suggestions and the moment the topic was labeled as "racist" in the title the forum was locked. This is disheartening because this is a suggestion and needs to be acknowledged as what it is individuals using insensitive terms rooted in what is racism!


I locked it because you already had a thread for this, whether or not it said 'racist' in the title did not factor into it. If you have an issue with a thread being locked you are free to send in a ticket or message the mod directly about it, I for one am happy to explain in more detail if there is any confusion on why a thread was locked.

This thread had also already been moved to the suggestions board days ago as it was clear it better belonged here than the discussion board. We can move threads to boards they better belong in if asked, so re-making a thread in a different board is generally unnecessary. Even if this thread wasn't in the suggestion's board already, its better to ask that the old thread be moved than make a duplicate thread.
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Re: Questionable Items

Postby Cyrano » Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:16 am

Celozon wrote:
Cyrano wrote:I moved the forum post to the suggestions and the moment the topic was labeled as "racist" in the title the forum was locked. This is disheartening because this is a suggestion and needs to be acknowledged as what it is individuals using insensitive terms rooted in what is racism!


I locked it because you already had a thread for this, whether or not it said 'racist' in the title did not factor into it. If you have an issue with a thread being locked you are free to send in a ticket or message the mod directly about it, I for one am happy to explain in more detail if there is any confusion on why a thread was locked.

This thread had also already been moved to the suggestions board days ago as it was clear it better belonged here than the discussion board. We can move threads to boards they better belong in if asked, so re-making a thread in a different board is generally unnecessary. Even if this thread wasn't in the suggestion's board already, its better to ask that the old thread be moved than make a duplicate thread.


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Re: Questionable Items

Postby Cyrano » Sat Dec 02, 2023 3:13 pm

bumping again to been seen by staff who may be able to change these item's names
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Re: Questionable Items

Postby vinylteeth » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:34 pm

support for changing the item name to coily!

no comment on the plantation item as I can't find it but probably would support because having an item named that is strange

EDIT: saw the plantation item on the locked thread, it should definitely be changed.

I noticed a small problem with changing the name of the kinky hair item though; there is already a hair item named coily hair for more "loosely held-together coils" (that's the best way I can describe it)
After my own sort of research, the only other options we would have is kinky and "afro-textured" (which sounds...strange to say the least) and honestly...it looks like most Black hair brands and blogs use the term kinky to describe the hair texture.

saying this as a biracial 3b haired person though, it's not my place in terms of personal experience or how this effects me :]

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Re: Questionable Items

Postby bfdi » Sun Dec 10, 2023 7:11 am

support about the hair - it's up to you guys to decide how to call your hair and as long as you like it I will support ( =

no comment about plantation. I disagree more than I agree here



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Re: Needed Item Name Change

Postby CanisCoyote » Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:34 pm

I have never heard that kinky was a bad term to describe hair, doesn't the word just mean something with a sharp bend or twist in it? I understand it has another, informal definition or kind of slang term that is unrelated to hair... but the words origin is to have a sharp bend. When is this used as a bad term?
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Re: Needed Item Name Change

Postby Cyrano » Mon Dec 11, 2023 4:21 pm

I wanted to link the items here

"plantation" - halloween items 2023 click here


"kinky" - february click here

article describing the problematic term "kinky" - click here

"Kinky"

"If you look this word up, the first description that pops up is negative — words like perverse, abnormal, unconventional, and unnatural. As it relates to hair, you'd think that 'kinky hair' would be something to be embarrassed by because of its technical definition. Kinky hair wasn’t seen as beautiful for many women before, but now we’re at a place where tightly textured hair is beginning to be embraced and celebrated." — Larry Sims, celebrity hairstylist

I'm not saying the of these items is evil im just saying it needs to be changed because the titles are not culturally informed. I am continuing to ask for a change in title
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Re: Needed Item Name Change

Postby Starfalling » Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:25 pm

Support for both. Even as a white person, both of those item names have always rubbed me the wrong way a bit
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