Is this a Fair Trade? (Dec 18th edition)

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trades/viewtrade.php?id=85556106&userid=9355&signature=ti-xEDGl77UDCVT6kGS_BQ Is this fair

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If I traded

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would it be fair?

[w h a t]

holding an auction for my sun pup! i need a bit of help!
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[isabella_summerz]

holding an auction for my sun pup! i need a bit of help!
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I honestly think 2 Would be the best, but it depends on the puppies rarity and date honestly, but even if it was OMGSR it would probably be fair because they are including 2 OMGSR.

[scythe.]

holding an auction for my sun pup! i need a bit of help!
one!
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the first trade is probably the best value; the teacup will most likely be omgsr, the phoenix is currently omgsr, and the black advent pup has pretty good demand. all three pets are very easy to trade off, as far as I know!

the second trade has two omgsrs, and the last has one. both the omgsrs in the second trade are typically much harder to trade off than the ones in the first, and usually go for less. the third trade is just sort of worse in every aspect - it doesn't have as much rarity, and the butterfly wolf is still hard to trade off.

tl;dr - first trade's the best by far, even with the unknown rarity of the teacup (as most URs are omgsr their first year, if not permanently afterwards)

in terms of nons (if you still use the old list):
trade one: .5 nons (BA) + 1.5 nons (phoenix) + 1.5 nons (cup, tentatively) = 3.5 nons, about sunback value; massive overpay if that pup is a nonjewel, about fair for a sunback, under for a sunjewel; a pretty good trade if you like to gamble with outcomes and new UR market values. (I'd hesitate because what if sunjewel?? but I'd probably take it if it were me, honestly. The odds are in your favor here, barring the teacup turning out to be unpopular in its later growths.)

trade two: 1 non (bwolf) + 1 non (u-nick-orn) = 2 nons, overpay for a nonjewel but undertrade for any other outcome. probably actually worth less than this because of how hard it is to trade both of these pets. mostly just a hassle, honestly.

trade three: 1 non (bwolf) + .75 nons (tox) = 1.75 nons, see above. toxic has decent demand but isn't worth as much rarity-wise and doesn't have insane demand to make up for it so it just about evens out with the u-nick-orn.

that's just my two cents tho, feel free to get a second opinion!

[imleaving_]

Is this a fair trade? They are willing to let me choose pets to add to their trades. I'm not very good at trading pets so I'm worried I won't get the fairest trade so if someone could help me that would be great!!
trades/viewtrade.php?id=85472818&userid=254172&signature=yKoKTAcZ9h94E262ZYHrgQ

[scythe.]

Is this a fair trade? They are willing to let me choose pets to add to their trades. I'm not very good at trading pets so I'm worried I won't get the fairest trade
trades/viewtrade.php?id=85472818&userid=254172&signature=yKoKTAcZ9h94E262ZYHrgQ

your horse is from march 2009; the dog on their side is from christmas 2009. both pets are vr, and as far as I'm aware neither has any special demand to take into account.
knowing that, we can go by c$ value to determine the gap; according to this guide, the gap between an early 2009 vr and a late 2009 vr is about 10c$, maybe 15 at most (early = 45-50c$, late = 35-40c$). a late 2010 rare like the other dog on their side is valued at 20-25c$, so they're actually overpaying! c:

unless I'm missing something, in which case please correct me. ^^

[imleaving_]

Is this a fair trade? They are willing to let me choose pets to add to their trades. I'm not very good at trading pets so I'm worried I won't get the fairest trade
trades/viewtrade.php?id=85472818&userid=254172&signature=yKoKTAcZ9h94E262ZYHrgQ

your horse is from march 2009; the dog on their side is from christmas 2009. both pets are vr, and as far as I'm aware neither has any special demand to take into account.
knowing that, we can go by c$ value to determine the gap; according to this guide, the gap between an early 2009 vr and a late 2009 vr is about 10c$, maybe 15 at most (early = 45-50c$, late = 35-40c$). a late 2010 rare like the other dog on their side is valued at 20-25c$, so they're actually overpaying! c:

unless I'm missing something, in which case please correct me. ^^

Oh ok! Thank you so much! The trading rules are so complicated for me to follow sometimes so this helped a lot! Thank you!

[w h a t]

holding an auction for my sun pup! i need a bit of help!
one!
two!
three!

the first trade is probably the best value; the teacup will most likely be omgsr, the phoenix is currently omgsr, and the black advent pup has pretty good demand. all three pets are very easy to trade off, as far as I know!

the second trade has two omgsrs, and the last has one. both the omgsrs in the second trade are typically much harder to trade off than the ones in the first, and usually go for less. the third trade is just sort of worse in every aspect - it doesn't have as much rarity, and the butterfly wolf is still hard to trade off.

tl;dr - first trade's the best by far, even with the unknown rarity of the teacup (as most URs are omgsr their first year, if not permanently afterwards)

in terms of nons (if you still use the old list):
trade one: .5 nons (BA) + 1.5 nons (phoenix) + 1.5 nons (cup, tentatively) = 3.5 nons, about sunback value; massive overpay if that pup is a nonjewel, about fair for a sunback, under for a sunjewel; a pretty good trade if you like to gamble with outcomes and new UR market values. (I'd hesitate because what if sunjewel?? but I'd probably take it if it were me, honestly. The odds are in your favor here, barring the teacup turning out to be unpopular in its later growths.)

trade two: 1 non (bwolf) + 1 non (u-nick-orn) = 2 nons, overpay for a nonjewel but undertrade for any other outcome. probably actually worth less than this because of how hard it is to trade both of these pets. mostly just a hassle, honestly.

trade three: 1 non (bwolf) + .75 nons (tox) = 1.75 nons, see above. toxic has decent demand but isn't worth as much rarity-wise and doesn't have insane demand to make up for it so it just about evens out with the u-nick-orn.

that's just my two cents tho, feel free to get a second opinion!

i'm actually super happy i checked back again to see the edit with the old list values, this is super duper helpful, thank you so much!

i've just gotten another offer! how are the bengal, shima, and foal doing demand wise?

[scythe.]

i'm actually super happy i checked back again to see the edit with the old list values, this is super duper helpful, thank you so much!

i've just gotten another offer! how are the bengal, shima, and foal doing demand wise?

no problem; glad I could help! c:

the Shima LT is one of those pets that trades for an ‘09 rare one day and a mid-September the next, but right now with the re-release I’d value one at a low-mid advent; the bengal gets 1.5 nons pretty regularly from what I’ve seen, and the foal is anywhere from 1-1.5. overall it’s not a bad offer with the chimera store pet, Shima, and assorted rares along with 2.5-3 nons worth, but the foal can also be a little tricky to trade, and again the market for the shima is a seesaw.