maplecrft wrote:Taro_Queen wrote:
Still feels like its contradicting itself though, the rules say that you are allowed to send unfair trades or gifts to friends or family but you're saying its cheating regardless?
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I send lopsided trades all the time to my good IRL friend who I've known for almost 20 years. I know she likes to hoard certain pets that I don't care for (specifically, most BW), so I am happy to send them directly to her instead of trying to trade them away. If I didn't personally know her, I wouldn't do this. I would hate to risk punishment just because I like gifting a friend.
You are allowed to send unfair trades and gifts between you and family or friends. Cheating is when someone takes advantage of another account to get free stuff, like my example, having a sibling send you their monthly pets every month because they don't play anymore. That is no longer a gift, thats profiting off your sibling's account when they no longer play or have any investment CS, that is cheating. The lines between allowed unfair trades/gifts and cheating can be very close together though, especially when you are on the same IP as someone and one person is receiving the majority of the pets. It can look very similar to profiting off the other account for little to nothing in return. That is why we warn against it, that doesn't mean you aren't allowed to, we just encourage you to exercise caution, and keep trades as fair as possible. If trades are kept mostly fair, and gifts are small, infrequent, or being send on both sides so neither is consistently getting more than the other, then its not an issue. In this instance we are primarily concerned with users who are taking advantage of and profiting off having, what is essentially, multiple accounts.
This discussion seems to be getting off topic though since this is supposed to be primarily about the changes offsite trades and art trade rules. The rules on cheating and trading with family/friends has not changed and only relevant here in that offsite trades can appear like gifts. If you have further questions about our rules on cheating I suggest sending in a help ticket.
Vulpinyo wrote:If the trade was discussed offsite should we just put the agreed upon terms in the trade message?
Yes, there should be documentation on the CS side as well, so you should list things in the trade like exactly what is being traded on both sides and both of your username/profile links on the other site.