Birb wrote:Hello! I don't currently ride horses but I have some questions about doing so ^^
For some context: a little kid, I was obsessed with horses. I had ridden horses briefly, but it was never able to last more than one or two lessons because lessons/apprenticeships are so expensive where I live and my family can't afford it. I am now a teen and in the past few years I've suffered from severe physical pain and, potentially, a serious chronic disease. Despite all this, I still love horses so much and dream of even just being around them.
A friend told me that some stables will allow teens to get lessons in exchange for volunteering work (e.g. 6 hours of cleaning per 1 hour lesson) but I'm not sure if that's completely true? If it is, how would I go about asking them? I don't think currently I would be able to do physical work due to my pain/illness, but someday when it's more under control then I would definitely take an offer like that in a heartbeat. If that's not true, does anyone have any other ideas for how I could get involved with horses on a low budget and with a lot of pain?
Thank you for any help ;w;
dameron wrote:Birb wrote:Hello! I don't currently ride horses but I have some questions about doing so ^^
For some context: a little kid, I was obsessed with horses. I had ridden horses briefly, but it was never able to last more than one or two lessons because lessons/apprenticeships are so expensive where I live and my family can't afford it. I am now a teen and in the past few years I've suffered from severe physical pain and, potentially, a serious chronic disease. Despite all this, I still love horses so much and dream of even just being around them.
A friend told me that some stables will allow teens to get lessons in exchange for volunteering work (e.g. 6 hours of cleaning per 1 hour lesson) but I'm not sure if that's completely true? If it is, how would I go about asking them? I don't think currently I would be able to do physical work due to my pain/illness, but someday when it's more under control then I would definitely take an offer like that in a heartbeat. If that's not true, does anyone have any other ideas for how I could get involved with horses on a low budget and with a lot of pain?
Thank you for any help ;w;
hey there! I have a similar situation to what you're looking for. I suffer from dyspraxia, a muscular disability, and chronic migraines- but I'm currently a volunteer apprentice at my local ranch. I work every sunday six hours and more during the summer for camps. my job consists of cleaning, feeding, and handling all of the animals. I specialize in equines and specifically ask my boss if I can spend more time around them. I do get free lessons, usually when the horses need exercise. because all of our horses are retired we don't spend more than half an hour riding and all of the apprentices (about six of us) take turns helping each other out on one horse. that's just my situation ^^
I suggest looking into local ranch and stables websites for jobs, or apply in person. ask about a job around the horses and just be plain about it- you want to work and you want to have opportunities to ride and be hands on.
as far as pain goes, if you do get a job or lessons, let your employer/teacher know! my boss knows my limits and we have it worked out so if I am in pain or I need a break she can tag me out with another apprentice. trust me, they will understand completely. ranch work is exerting and hard and really takes a lot out of you- it's not your fault if you need breaks.
Maplefire309 wrote:I've recently started volunteering at a horse farm with my friend, plus I'm a beginner rider. I've been to the horse farm probably at least 3 or 4 times, and one of the horses there I really like to ride. The problem is, he's really stubborn, even after I used a crop on him lightly. He's not owned by anyone, so I think the best option would be for me to work with him, and possibly own him once I'm more experienced, the farm owners even suggested owning him. Does anyone know any good training methods? (Also, I think my friend said he was an Appy but she's not sure, he's also blind in his right eye and a smaller horse.) I'll add a picture of him once I can take one.
Hyensa wrote:My friend has a really dangerous mare who has grabbed me with her teeth & attacked me before. No training method, slow or fast, works on her but he insists on keeping and continuing to ride her. She is an explosion waiting to happen, incredibly out of shape and is a constant argument when you're on her back asking her to do something. No amount of starting from the basic's with groundwork seems to matter. She does all the groundwork like a dream, is real chill, free lunges, joins up, etc then just attacks bared teeth and front hooves. Just not nice minded enough to be the leisurely trail horse that he's asking her to be. I have to go out there today with him, exercise and ride her yet again even though she's just going to be the same horse and lose all our progress by the next ride. Selling her & buying a GOOD horse would be the sound decision, there are too many willing ones to constantly deal w/ one who looks for opportunities to hurt you but he wont accept that lol. The only thing that's remotely made a difference was laying her down as a last resort, and even that didn't last a few days with consistent training after it. #hatemares lol!
edit; she has broken my finger and fractured my forearm as well in her freakouts.
Any horse i've ever touched finished out fine, I have a blind horse that i've trained from the ground up as well as an explosive abused gelding and they both do wonderful. I've tried (although I hate Clinton) The Clinton Anderson methods, Neil Davies, Tom McCutcheon and more but some horses just can't be helped I guess.
Huggles wrote:Maplefire309 wrote:I've recently started volunteering at a horse farm with my friend, plus I'm a beginner rider. I've been to the horse farm probably at least 3 or 4 times, and one of the horses there I really like to ride. The problem is, he's really stubborn, even after I used a crop on him lightly. He's not owned by anyone, so I think the best option would be for me to work with him, and possibly own him once I'm more experienced, the farm owners even suggested owning him. Does anyone know any good training methods? (Also, I think my friend said he was an Appy but she's not sure, he's also blind in his right eye and a smaller horse.) I'll add a picture of him once I can take one.
If hes at the barn, hes owned by somebody. If youre a beginner rider, dont try and train a horse. First get some guidance, take some lessons, ask if you can help with him. Ask if it would be okay to work with him on the side and get him into good shape. Training depends on the horse, and somebody there should be able to help you. Ask about possibly leasing him if you really enjoy this horse, its like owning but way less responsibility.
Be sure its okay to work with him, but I will say this. Start from the basics, get on the ground with him, make him listen when lunging. Get him to first move his feet on the ground. Its fine to swing a rope or a whip at him, only hit him on his ankles if absolutely necessary, for most horses, you just need to swing or hit the ground. When he becomes good on the ground to cues, this could be a while, get on him, soften him up with some flexes, make sure hes listening to you. When you ask him to move forward, there is no need to be kicking them hard, its going to desensitize him. Squeeze his sides and give a cue to go forward, if he doesnt, dont squeeze harder, tap him with your reins or a crop. If he still doesnt move forward, repeat this.
A lot of times horses arent actually stubborn, but rather desensitized or numb to cues because people over cue. If its a younger horse, probably a case of stubbornness.
Again though, this is something you have to talk with people at the barn with first. Dont just go working a random horse without permission or help!
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Huggles wrote:Maplefire309 wrote:I've recently started volunteering at a horse farm with my friend, plus I'm a beginner rider. I've been to the horse farm probably at least 3 or 4 times, and one of the horses there I really like to ride. The problem is, he's really stubborn, even after I used a crop on him lightly. He's not owned by anyone, so I think the best option would be for me to work with him, and possibly own him once I'm more experienced, the farm owners even suggested owning him. Does anyone know any good training methods? (Also, I think my friend said he was an Appy but she's not sure, he's also blind in his right eye and a smaller horse.) I'll add a picture of him once I can take one.
If hes at the barn, hes owned by somebody. If youre a beginner rider, dont try and train a horse. First get some guidance, take some lessons, ask if you can help with him. Ask if it would be okay to work with him on the side and get him into good shape. Training depends on the horse, and somebody there should be able to help you. Ask about possibly leasing him if you really enjoy this horse, its like owning but way less responsibility.
Be sure its okay to work with him, but I will say this. Start from the basics, get on the ground with him, make him listen when lunging. Get him to first move his feet on the ground. Its fine to swing a rope or a whip at him, only hit him on his ankles if absolutely necessary, for most horses, you just need to swing or hit the ground. When he becomes good on the ground to cues, this could be a while, get on him, soften him up with some flexes, make sure hes listening to you. When you ask him to move forward, there is no need to be kicking them hard, its going to desensitize him. Squeeze his sides and give a cue to go forward, if he doesnt, dont squeeze harder, tap him with your reins or a crop. If he still doesnt move forward, repeat this.
A lot of times horses arent actually stubborn, but rather desensitized or numb to cues because people over cue. If its a younger horse, probably a case of stubbornness.
Again though, this is something you have to talk with people at the barn with first. Dont just go working a random horse without permission or help!Hyensa wrote:My friend has a really dangerous mare who has grabbed me with her teeth & attacked me before. No training method, slow or fast, works on her but he insists on keeping and continuing to ride her. She is an explosion waiting to happen, incredibly out of shape and is a constant argument when you're on her back asking her to do something. No amount of starting from the basic's with groundwork seems to matter. She does all the groundwork like a dream, is real chill, free lunges, joins up, etc then just attacks bared teeth and front hooves. Just not nice minded enough to be the leisurely trail horse that he's asking her to be. I have to go out there today with him, exercise and ride her yet again even though she's just going to be the same horse and lose all our progress by the next ride. Selling her & buying a GOOD horse would be the sound decision, there are too many willing ones to constantly deal w/ one who looks for opportunities to hurt you but he wont accept that lol. The only thing that's remotely made a difference was laying her down as a last resort, and even that didn't last a few days with consistent training after it. #hatemares lol!
edit; she has broken my finger and fractured my forearm as well in her freakouts.
Any horse i've ever touched finished out fine, I have a blind horse that i've trained from the ground up as well as an explosive abused gelding and they both do wonderful. I've tried (although I hate Clinton) The Clinton Anderson methods, Neil Davies, Tom McCutcheon and more but some horses just can't be helped I guess.
Yikes. I leased a 4y/o like this for a few months. She loved loved loved ground work, loved people. As soon as you got on her back, buck buck, kick everything, bite this horse. For her, she just needed more work, more things to do more often.
Did you have a vet and/or chiro out? Horses in pain are dangerous, thats how I cracked my hip and bruised a kidney. Have them come out, make sure its not a pain thing. If thats not the case, push push push. If a horse is being naughty, move their feet. If they decide to buck, you have to ride through it. Sooner or later, theyre going to realize they cant escape your contact and pressure, so theyll have to give in. I sat many bucks on my 4y/o brat of a mare. If in any way she was disrespectful or threatening towards me, I moved her feet and made her hustle. She cut it out pretty quick. Best of luck... rip to your finger and arm D:
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