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Postby drive-in saturday » Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:00 pm

Any random trades are welcome.
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Looking to trade for C$:

Ex-List pets for trade:

Wishlist - What We're Looking For

Off-site Trades:
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Notes » Store Pet Values

Postby drive-in saturday » Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:44 am

Also check these store pet resources:

Store Pet Values 2020 wrote:'20 store pet = late '10 rare
'19 store pet = mid '10 rare
'18 store pet = early '10 rare
'17 store pet = late '09 rare
'16 store pet = mid '09 rare
'15 store pet = early '09 rare
'14 store pet = two '09 rares
'13 store pet = '08 very rare/two '09 rares + '10 rare

Any store pets older than these are on the list.


STORE PETS
2019 = late 2010 rare
2018 = mid 2010 rare
2017 = early 2010 rare
2016 = late 2009 rare
2015 = mid 2009 rare
2014 = early 2009 rare
2013 = 2 09 rares

Older store pets' values or worths will depend on who you trade. (On Rares List)

This goes up each year. So when 2020 store pets come out, 2019 store pet changes from late 2010 rare -> mid 2010 rare. 2018 store pet value changes from mid 2010 rare -> early 2010 rare, etc


Why don't you include 2008 uncommons?
--The only two 2008 uncommons (x + x) were extended into 2009 & are valued as 2009 uncommons
--Extended Release Guide

Why isn't a 2008 rare worth 2 2009 rares?
--Because then a non-list 2008 very rare = 2 2008 rares = 4 2009 rares
That would make non-list very rares worth the same as some lists which obviously isn't the case
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Notes » Pet Count

Postby drive-in saturday » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:22 pm

2008 = 212
2009 = 664
2010 = 802
2011 = 873
2012 = 822
2013 = 844
2014 = 1032
2015 = 1063
2016 = 982
2017 = 929
2018 = 1031
2019 = 1065


Overall Pet Count:
2020 - ???
2019 - ???
2018 - 1031
2017 - 903
2016 - 956
2015 -1035
2014 -1008
2013 - 819
2012 - 799
2011 - 851
2010 - 785
2009 - 657
2008 - 211

Store Pets:
2009 - 7
2010 - 17
2011 - 22
2012 - 23
2013 - 25
2014 - 24
2015 - 28
2016 - 26
2017 - 26
2018 - 26
2019 - ???

9030 without store pets
9254 total


Tess considers the store pet collection to be separate from the free pet collection (Source)
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Notes » Rares List Breakdown in '09 Rares & Mid Advents

Postby drive-in saturday » Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:25 am

PLEASE NOTE THAT THE RARE'S LIST IS DISCONTINUED
This breakdown of the rare's list is still being kept here for the people that choose to continue using the list.
Made this cheat sheet in: ~sept 2017


xxxxxxxxxxxxRARES LIST IN 09 RARES
xxxxxxxx& MID ADVENTS




Rare's List in 09 rares wrote:PLEASE Note:
-These are only rough estimates.
This list is no way exact nor is it meant to be.


-Quantity has a value of it's own. Nobody
will pay 1000+ 09 rares or 200+ mid advents
(if anyone even has that many) for say a non.

-Especially when you start getting high upon the list,
it's much harder to tell the exact worth.
Things here aren't worth exactly x to x amount of 09
rares or mid advents.' It's worth somewhere around the
amount listed, give or take some. If your trade
is a couple off here or there it can still be considered fair.

i see you quoting this o__o

MA = MID ADVENTS
LA = LOW ADVENT(S)
R = RARE(S)

GWJ = growing white july
CEG = clear eyed galaxy

Main list wrote: High Julies

Sunjewel - 7440-10080 09 rares | (1240-1260 MA)
Moonswirl - 5952-8064 09 rares | (992-1008 MA)
UR B-Wolf - 5280-7136 09 rares | (880-892 MA)
Plains Zebra - 5028-6808 09 rares | (838-851 MA)
Dogtag - 4464-6048 09 rares | (744-756 MA)

Mid Julies

UR Cat - 3972-5376 09 rares | (662-672 MA)
UR Banana - 3222-4368 09 rares | (537-546 MA)
Coontail - 2976-4032 09 rares | (496-504 MA)

Low Julies

UR Aussie - 1986-2688 09 rares | (331-336 MA)
Ur Lion - 1734-2352 09 rares | (289-294 MA)
Nons - 1488-2016 09 rares | (248-252 MA)
UR Peach - gap not yet discussed.

Lowest Julies

Ur Flower Pot - 1242-1680 09 rares | (207-210 MA)
GWJ - 1086-1464 09 rares | (181-183 MA)
Nick Unicorn - 1026-1384 09 rares | (171-173 MA)

GAP

High Augusts

Spotted Tribal - 990-1344 09 rares | (165-168 MA)
Purple Toxic - 816-1088 09 rares | (136 MA)
CEG - 630-920 09 rares | (105-115 MA)
Blue Toxic - 585-675 09 rares | (94 MA)
Sorbets/grapes - 498-672 09 rares | (83-84 MA)
Joker - n/a

Mid Augusts


UR Butterbun - 438-584 09 rares | (74 MA)
Red Toxic - 396-507 09 rares | (63 MA)
Green Toxic - 264-338 09 rares | (42 MA)
Non-Balloon - 210-280 09 rares | (35 MA)
Line Tribal - 185- 238 09 rares | (29 MA + 1 LA)
Rainbow Mane - 151-193 09 rares | (24 MA)

Low Augusts

Pink Balloon - 132-169 09 rares | (21 MA)
Speckled Rats - 113-145 09 rares | (18 MA)
UR Purple Horse - 94-121 09 rares | (15 MA)
Skeleton PPS - 75-97 09 rares | (12 MA)
Rose PPS - 67-88 09 rares | (11 MA)
Red X PPS - 61-81 09 rares | (10 MA)


September List wrote:High Septembers

Dark Leopard - 55-72 09 rares | (9 MA)
Grey Dragon - 48-64 09 rares | (8 MA)
Blue Rose - 46-60 09 rares | (7 MA)
Purple Batdog - 42-55 09 rares | (6 MA + 1 LA)
Lime Ice Rat - 39-52 09 rares | (6 MA + 1-2 09 R)

Mid Septembers

Cake Dog - 38-50 09 rares | (6 MA)
Floppy Pink September - 34-45 09 rares (5 MA + 1 LA)
Red Rose - 33-40 09 rares | (5 MA)
Pink Striped September - 26-32 09 rares | (4 MA)

Low Septembers

Scarf PPS - 19-24 09 rares | (3 MA)
Target Dog - 14-18 09 rares | (2 MA + 2 early 09 R)
Light Leopard - 13-17 09 rares | (2 MA + early 09 R)
Red Dragon - 12-16 09 rares | (2 MA)


Advents List wrote:High Advents
Tier 10 - 10 09 rares
Tier 9 - 8-9 09 rares
Tier 8- 7-8 09 rares + 09 UC

Mid Advents
Tier 7 - 7-8 09 rares
Tier 6- 6-7 09 rares + 09 UC
Tier 5 - 6-7 09 rares

Low Advents

Tier 4- 5-6 09 rares
Tier 3- 4-5 09 rares + 09 UC
Tier 2 - 4-5 09 rares
Tier 1- 3-4 09 rares




I realized that on page 4 there is no
Lime Ice Rat or the gaps between it
and t8 and t10 listed, and if I'm correct
it's on its own tier (9). Is there any reason
why that's so?


The gap is relatively small so it
was just never added. It's a gap of 1-2 09 rares,
but often not something that is paid because
it's a rat? idk, it was just never added or
overlooked when the gaps list was made.


Non = non-coon/tag/swirl/jewel
Nonballoon is not a "non" as it is worth much less
(was released later) and is on a different tier


Sunjewel = 5 nons
Moonswirl = 4 nons
UR BW = 3 nons + 1.5 sorbs + red x pps
Plains Zebra = 3 nons + sorb + red x pps
Dogtag = 3 nons

UR Cat = 2 nons + 2 sorbs
Banana = 2 nons + 0.5 sorb
Coontail = 2 nons

Aussie = non + sorb
UR lion = non + 0.5 sorb
Non = 3 sorbs

Flower/Holly = 2.5 sorbs
~~~~~

Spotted Tribal = 2 sorbs
Purple Toxic = 1.5 sorbs + red x pps
Blue Toxic = sorb + red x pps

Sorb = 2 green toxics or 4 balloon dogs

Red Toxic = 0.75 sorb or 3 balloon dogs
Green Toxic = 0.5 sorb or 2 balloon dogs
Balloon Dog = 0.25 sorb or 3 blue roses


Also check the "Gaps List" from The Rares List for a similar breakdown of higher List pets into lower List pets


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Notes » Main List Breakdown in Nons

Postby drive-in saturday » Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:59 am

set in stone values:
1 non = 2 sorbs = 4 balloon tier/wwa
non/pink/blue balloon = 1 sorb
1 non = 10-12 ma

-

pink sorb = 0.75 non
ur lion = 1.5 @ rerelease, 2 nons at truedate
black advent = 1 non if truedate, 0.5 at rerelease
bmd = 0.5 non td, 0.25 rerelease
beg = 1.5 nons
ceg = 1.5 nons
punks (ex. lolita) = 0.5 non
lolita = 1 non
androids (ex. green) = 0.5 non
green android = 1 non
yellow/green tox = 0.25 non
raven: 2 nons
sunback: 3 nons
sunjewel: 2.5 nons
ur malk: 1.5 non
blue rose: 0.25 non
purple/blue tox = 0.5
red tox = doesn't exist don't offer
any liontails : 2.5 nons
joker = 1.5 nons
bengal = 1.5 nons
cinnabun = 2 nons
squid = 1 non
avocado = 1 non (ew)
fruit = 1 non (very ew)
rainbow mane = 1 non (still ew)


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Notes » Rarity Change History

Postby drive-in saturday » Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:32 pm

notes for myself; rarities and rarity changes that aren't in the rarity change archive

purple is rarest toxic. based on 2009 speculation red may be most common, or green/yellow
looks like all sorbets really are worth about the same. yellow seemed to be slightly more common compared to other sorbs. seems like all balloon/nonballoon litter are worth about the same. tribals go spotted > gearback > line. gearback is only slightly rarer than the line tribal by a hair (so translating that to 2019 they're probably the same or at least so close we can consider them to be)
based on 2009 speculation: green/yellow toxics are most common augusts. "Sorbet (any variety) > spotted tribal > purple tox > blue tox > gearback tribal". in 2010 seems like gwj = spotted tribal.
merged together tiers with pets that only seemed to have very slight differences in rarity.


nov 2009: rose pps is rare, blue sorb is VR, CEG is rare, nonballoon is VR, raver bun is VR, celestial PPS is uncommon
december 2009: rose pps is very rare, ALL toxics are already VR, pink balloon is already VR, elf rat is already VR, blue and yellow sorbs are already VR, seems like both galaxies are now VR(?), pink balloon/galaxy/moonswirl BUNNIES are already VR
january 2010: CEG galaxy is for sure VR now, gearback is already VR
march 2010: dark leopard is VR








***** = these pets are worth more than anything below them, HOWEVER they may not be worth less than what's above them. we know these are rarer than the pets fluctuates that were VR while these were steadily OMGSR. but we do not know where they stand amongst the older OMGSR pets. these pets can be traded for what is above them though at your own risk
UR Phoenix - UR Bee - UR Hollywing Dog - UR Pineapple - UR Foal - UR Peach - UR Zonkey - UR Cinnabon - UR Fox - UR Peas - UR Galaxy Cat PPS - UR Strawberry Shortcake


Plains Zebra
Grevy's Zebra
UR B-Wolf
U-Nick-orn
UR Rat = UR Tiger Dog = UR Mint horse
UR Grapes
UR Cat = UR Banana = Moonswirl = Sunjewel
July PPS = Dogtag

*****

UR Malk = UR Bengal = Mountain Zebra = Coontail Dog
UR Pickle = Sunback = Light Paw rat = Dark Paw Rat = Lime Ice Rat = Toxic/Flower Rat = Rainbow mane = Joker Bunny = Nonswirl = Nonjewel = Non-tag = Noncoon = UR Flower = Light Speckled Rat = Medium Speckled Rat = Heavy Speckled Rat = Light Heart Rat = Dark Heart Rat = 'UR' Butterbun = UR Lion = GWJ = Blue Malk Dragon PPS = UR Ice Cat

everything below this is a wip
UR Aussie/Cookie Dog

Blue Sorbet = Yellow Sorbet = Green Sorbet = Pink Sorbet = Spotted Tribal = Purple Toxic
Blue Toxic = Pink Balloon Dog = Blue Balloon Dog = Nonballoon = Gearback Tribal = Line Tribal = Red Toxic = Green Toxic = Yellow Toxic
Rose PPS = CEG = WWA

Sacrf PPS = Bumblebee Spider

Dark Leopard = Light Chocolate Cake Dog = Red X PPS = Tricolor Cake Dog = Pink Cake Dog = Lexi Cake Dog

Joker = Floppy Pink September = Rainbow Sprinkles Cake Dog = Palomino Tess Horse
Patchy Pink September = Grey Dragon = Red Dragon

Halloween '08 Cat = Purple Grinner = Red Grinner = Orange Grinner = Green Grinner = Pink Grinner = Blue Grinner = Pink Heart Bunny = Winged Blood Dog = Jack-O-Lantern Rat = Rose Rat = Pink Panda Rat = Purple Batdog = Red X Dog = Angel Advent = Stripey Pink September = Tinsel Tess Horse = PPS Dice Pony = Pumpkin Rat

Green Zombie Pony = Orange Panda Rat

Blue Rose = Roadkill Pony = Roadkill PPS = Blue Panda Rat = Brown Hooded Advent Rat = Brown Advent Rat = Black Hooded Advent Rat = Tan Hooded Advent Rat

KISS PPS = Growing Light-Faced October = Snowflake Bwolf = White Bunny = Light Grey Advent Rat = Tan Striped Advent Rat = Pale Beige Advent Rat = Tan-Bellied White Advent Rat = Raccoon Advent Rat = White-Bellied Tan Advent Rat= Tan Advent Rat

Pointy Black Border Collie Advent '08 = Brown Santa Hat Cat = Candy Cane Bwolf = Blue Light Stripe = Orange Heavy Stripe = Growing Dark-Faced October = Watermelon Dog = Boar PPS = Candy Cane Bunny = Purple Bunny = Emerald BW= Skeleton Rat = Santa Rat = Rudolph Rat = Heart PPS Advent = Bone PPS = Celestial PPS = Orange Bobtail PPS Advent = Black Advent = BMD = Hyena Advent = Timberwolf Advent = Grey Border Collie Advent = Brown Border Collie Advent = Pink Heart Advent = Grey Tag Wolf Advent = Light Grey Wolf Advent = Purple Star Bobtail Advent = Vixen Advent = Blue Flower Advent = Cookie Advent = Pink Cookie Advent = Cream Advent = Orange/Mustard Heart Advent = Purple Heart/Husky Advent = White Santa Hat Cat = Blue Spotted October = Evil Shima PPS = Wildebeest Bwolf = Gemsbok Bwolf = Flop Ear Blood Dog = Buckskin PPS Pony = Malk Valentine PPS Dog = Pale Blue/Pink Spotted Advent = Light Blue Swirl Advent = Nick Cake Dog = Ornament EPPS = Cobweb Bun = Cheetah Rat

Red Rose Dog = Pink Mini Husky = Fiery Gatoh '09 Bday Cat = Tufted Blood Dog = Ghost Cat = Halloween '09 Koi = St. Patty's Day Tess Dragon = Tiger Rat = Yin Yang Green Swirl Dog = Grey Mini Husky = Dark Wood Dog

Target Dog= Red-fronted Holly = Tan Santa Hat Dog = Hollyfox Dog = Hollyfox Cat = Tinsel Advent Lion = Snowflake Advent Lion = Brown String Advent Tess Horse = Fireworks PPS = Shadow '09 Bday Cat = Cocoon PPS = White St. Patty's '09 Rat = Dark Brown Patchy '08 Rat = Null Bunny = Champagne Ferret Bunny = Grey 2nd Gen Bunny = Teal Malk Wolf Bunny = Bunny Ears Guinea Pig = Light Leopard = Red Heavy Stripe = Christmas Tree Advent = Peppermint-Eared Advent = Grown Strawberry Dog = Halloween Purple Sleipnir


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Notes

Postby drive-in saturday » Sat Apr 06, 2019 2:19 pm

same line = worth the same

STORE PETS
Skelebun
Orange Cerb
Eat Me = Jewel Liontail = Nonjewel Liontail
Drink Me
Green Liontail
Brown Sliepnir
Brown/Red Seal PPS = Green/Yellow Seal PPS = Green Android
Red Android = Yellow Android = Blue Android = Blue Seal PPS
Red Cerb
Clockwork Bun
Yellow Punk = Pink Punk = Orange Punk
White Arabian = Bay Arabian = Chestnut Arabian = Clydesdale
Lolita = Patchwork
Marionette
Tan/Shy Basilisk = Gray/Angry Basilisk = Beige/Annoyed Basilisk = Lionfish Seahorse = Spotted Mandarin Seahorse = Betta Seahorse = Arapaima Seahorse
Raven = Summer Forest Guardian = Fall/Autumn Forest Guardian = Spring Forest Guardian
Brown Carousel Horse = Gray Carousel Horse = White Carousel Horse = Zebra Carousel
Pink/Tropical Gryphon = Green/Forest Gryphon
Blue/Ice Gryphon = Lava Gryphon

------------------------------------
junk for me
androids; all started out very rare
july 2010: red, blue, and yellow turned rare while green stayed vr
august 2010: green also went rare
september 2010: green went back to vr
november 2010: red, blue, and yellow went back to vr

seal pps; all started out very rare
march 2010: all turned rare
sept 2010: green and brown went back to vr
? : blue turned went back to vr

may 2010: brown sliep is rare

turned vr
march 2010: orange cerb
may 2010: eat me, gray liontails
june 2010: drink me
july 2010: green liontail
august 2010: brown sliep
sept 2010: green seal, brown seal, green android
november 2010: red, blue, yellow androids, blue seal
dec 2010: red cerb
jan 2011: yellow, orange, pink punks
march 2011: lolita, patchy
april 2011: marionette
august 2011: basilisks
oct 2011: raven lmao

april 2012: forest gryphon
may 2012: ice and lava gryphons

was already vr in april: tropical gryphon

omgsr:
feb 2017: skelebun :')
jan 2019 overhaul: orange cerb
jan 2019 overhaul: eat me
jan 2019 overhaul: jewel liontail
jan 2019 overhaul: non-jewel liontail
feb 2019 : drink me

these are estimates on when these will turn omgsr based on how long it took the others and when they turned vr
may/june 2019 [ESTIMATE]: green liontail
may/june 2019 [ESTIMATE]: brown sliepnir
july-august 2019 [ESTIMATE]: brown/red seal pps
july-august 2019 [ESTIMATE]: green/yellow seal pps
july-august 2019 [ESTIMATE]: green android
october/november 2019 [ESTIMATE]: blue seal pps
october/november 2019 [ESTIMATE]: red android
october/november 2019 [ESTIMATE]: blue android
october/november 2019 [ESTIMATE]: yellow android
december 2019 - feb 2020 [ESTIMATE]: red cerb


started out vr:
skelebun
clockwork
arabians/clydesdale
gryphons(?) no ur wrong
seahorses
guardians(?)
carousels(?)

set exclusives: green android,strike lolita, strike clydesdale(?)
clyde was able to be bought separately! as seen in this post xxx
if you count one id above and one id below that clyde there are no other store horses next to it either.
the green android was the only set exclusive from all the 2009-2011 store pets.
the first set exclusive besides that was the cheshire cat at the end of 2012/into early 2013

the original store pet guide also confirms they could be bought seperatly or a full set for 60c$


part 2

HIGHER-END TRADING
"Higher end" as in any and all OMGSR pets, and very rare pets which are proven to be very high on the very rare scale or spectrum.
Store pets are also included here because store pets never get rereleased and their supply never increases, even though all the other pets on CS do get rereleased. Which means as CS' userbase gets bigger and more people with those store pets go inactive, there are less and less in circulation and they only go up in rarity!

Here is an index list of helpful threads to help you determine the worth of whichever pet in particular you are trading/trying to trade for:
-THE RARITY CHANGES ARCHIVE
-CS HISTORICAL FACTS
-GUIDE TO FINDING PET VALUE (what most call demand)

-Original rareness guides - 2008 Rareness guide
-2009 rareness guide
-2010 rareness guide
-'Recent' Rarity Changes v2 /// Old thread (Great for digging!)
-ORIGINAL Store Pet Guide


USING RARITY CHANGES
If two pets changed to the same rarity at the same time, it's safe to assume that they are close enough in rarity to be considered fair swaps!

Examples:
-Sunback, Speckled Rats, Noncoon and many others all went OMGSR the same time | (2019 Jan)
-UR Tiger Dog and UR Rat went OMGSR same time | (2011 June)
-Red X Dog and Angel Advent went VR same time | (August 2010)

Yes with the rarity change archives thread in particular these rarities were made and changed using one of the old rarity systems. However that doesn't totally invalidate this thread as being extremely useful!
You can easily tell that a Scarf PPS is worth more than a Red Malk Dragon, because the Scarf PPS changed first so it was higher on the very rare scale than the dragon.

Important note: don't use the rarity change archives to trade a store pet for a non-store-pet pet! As said at the beginning of this post store pets only go up in worth, so they have already passed the other pets that they changed the same time as! Only use the rarity change archives for store pets if you're trading a store pet for another store pet




PETS THAT HAVE NO RARITY CHANGE DATA:
Generally speaking there is a large gap between 08 July's and 08 August's. There's a large gap between those and 08 Septembers. This is how it typically goes:

08 July Pets > 08 August Pets > 08 September Pets > 08 Advent Pets > 08 Octobers/Novembers

Obviously there are some exceptions, so make sure you do research on your particular pet. Luckily the most notable exceptions DO have rarity change data which exempts them from this.

Some exceptions are:
-08 Advent - White Growing Scarf Dog and Blue Growing Scarf Dog |(VR April/May 2013)
-08 November - Joker Dog | (VR May 2010)
-08 July - CEG and BEG Galaxy Dogs | These were available all throughout August, not just July.
So there was more time to adopt more. Extended release guide. There also weren't adoption limits back then, and as these were quite popular more were adopted than most other July's!

Also the 08 Rareness guide linked above is helpful. Using that we can assume any of the Toxics and the balloon/nonballoon litter can swap fairly, among others. Please note that guide was mainly just speculation and not any solid fact!


All time OMGSR Pets: Can all be considered fair swaps as we have no proof any are more or less rare than each other. Since they never changed, we don't know where exactly they stand on the OMGSR scale/spectrum
With the exception of the Zebras, as Tess has stated they are the rarest pets on the site (Plains > Grevy's > Mountain). This was a long time ago so we don't know if it's still 100% true, but it's a safe assumption as they're still being released in their own special way as they have years ago. The exception of the zebras is the mountain zebra, as due to a mistake there were a few more adopted than there should’ve been, and that was still enough to drop it’s worth and caused it to fluctuate between very rare and OMGSR a few times before.

These are the all-time OMGSRs:
Plain's Zebra - Grevy's Zebra - UR Phoenix - UR Bee - UR Hollywing Dog - UR Pineapple - UR Foal - UR Peach - UR Zonkey - UR Cinnabon - UR Fox - UR Peas - UR Galaxy Cat PPS - UR Strawberry Shortcake


We can assume that those are all worth more than pets that turned omgsr after those pets. So a Blue malk dragon PPS that turned OMGSR in 2019 is worth less than a UR Bee which was already steadily OMGSR for years before and has never dropped while the dragon was still only very rare!


STORE PETS
wip; still need to add the other store pets

This is where they should stand amongst each other:


WHAT ABOUT DEMAND?!
This guide tells you how to find what your pet is ACTUALLY going for

You can see for yourself what people are actually offering for your pet and what people are actually accepting as successful trade offers. Find what you can expect to have to pay to get a certain pet, and what you can expect to receive as an offer on yours. DON'T ALWAYS BELIEVE WHAT THE FTT TELLS YOU IS "DEMAND". Look for yourself so you know what to expect in an offer, odds are you will get a much different answer. Most likely you'll find you can get much more out of your "low demand" pet than what the FTT tells you. Or you may find that nobody in their right mind will willingly offer you what the FTT claims your "high demand" pet "goes for" and you'll just be turning down actually good and amazing offers trying to get the unrealistic amounts the FTT forces onto people. The thread is well-known for exaggerating, over-inflating demand, encouraging plain greed and creating false "demand"; treating anything even remotely sought after as the only pets that matter on CS any everyone else as worthless utter garbage. Inflating the sought after pets to unrealistic amounts nobody actually wants to pay and lowballing everything else labeled as trash.

There is no such thing as a set-in-stone "demand value" that a pet always goes for. Would you pay an OMGSR dog for just a few very rare ponies? I gladly would, but not everyone else would. What you would pay and consider normal or fair can be completely different from someone else.

Besides that, try communicating with your trade partner and working out something you're both happy with. You don’t need other people or threads with completely different personal goals, experiences, playing styles and likes/dislikes to tell you how to value YOUR pet.

LOWER-END TRADING
"Lower end" as in anything rare and under, and the very rares which are newly very rare or on the lower end of the very rare tag spectrum/scale. This section does not include store pets or OMGSRs, please see "higher-end" trading for those

-SAME RARITY PETS - THE THREE-MONTH RULE
One pet can be swapped fairly for another pet of the same rarity that was released within 3 months of it. So an April 2010 rare is fair for a July 2010 rare. A 2018 January uncommon is fair for a 2018 April uncommon

-TRADING IN BETWEEN DIFFERENT RARITIES - RARITY MATH
Generally speaking this is the most widely-accepted form of trading in between rarities

This post has a lot of rarity math broken down for people who only want a quick look-through.

The 2:1 ratio typically applies to all pets uncommon and under and most lower very rares. With rares, it depends on who you trade as many different people use different ratios. The most commonly used however are 4:1 and 2:1, but there isn't any right or wrong to any of them.

2 OMGSC = 1 VC
2 VC = 1 C
2 C = 1 UC
2 R = 1 VR

2 UC = 1 R
3 UC = 1 R
4 UC = 1 R
5 UC = 1 R

With lower-end 2008 very rares in particular: 2 09 rares + 2010 R
OMGSRS ARE TYPICALLY EXEMPT FROM RARITY MATH. See the next post for those.

Please keep in mind extended release pets! These are valued at the last date of their release. Extended release guide
Ex: Those 2008 2nd gens are valued as August 2009 pets instead of any 08s because they were available much longer and more could be adopted!

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Postby drive-in saturday » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:11 pm

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    • We're less likely to accept species other than dogs or pets with low demand.
    • We won't trade down rares for commons, but we will trade up.
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