We need your feedback: Bigger, less frequent pound openings?

[Darkcloud!]

It would reduce the lag for… who, exactly? The kids you mentioned earlier who can’t attend the Pound because they’re too busy with school?

Every single person who attends the Pound is contributing to the lag, not just the Discord bot users. The Discord bot users are also CS users, they shouldn’t be barred just for using a reminder tool?

And with regards to your point about pinging friends, I wasn’t talking about that. There are public Discord servers with thousands of members and a manual Pound ping to supplement the bot pings, so again, no, getting rid of the bot wouldn’t change anything.

Previous users have already made the point of how high the site spikes when the bot pings everyone upthread. I would also advocate for public ping groups to "thousands" of users also be removed. No one is going to be "barred", but off-site bots/bots in general should not be used to artificially ensure attendance at every pound opening.

Adults have job, kids have school. That was addressing the user who claimed that kids have some sort of wide advantage on adults that can only be overcome by using the pound bot.

You are not engaging in good faith and are ignoring the points that other users have put time into making about the pound bot, lag, and the surrounding discussion of the pound as a site function. I am not interested in speaking with you past this post.

[The Last Raven]

As someone who uses the pound ping it definitely doesn’t “ensure” my attendance. I still regularly miss pounds. I still have just as much of a chance of getting rares as anyone who doesn’t use the pound ping.

[axes]

I think people are also severely overestimating the number of users pound pings actually drive in. I am a manual pinger for the pound in a big cs discord server and even I forget to visit the pound after I ping people. it isn't thousands of people coming online at once. a lot of the people with autoreminds on don't even go on cs for the pound, they just have the ping for when they are available. I don't know why this is so controversial. just set a timer on your phone and you are even. it really is not that deep guys

[The Grey Stuff]

It would reduce the lag for… who, exactly? The kids you mentioned earlier who can’t attend the Pound because they’re too busy with school?

Every single person who attends the Pound is contributing to the lag, not just the Discord bot users. The Discord bot users are also CS users, they shouldn’t be barred just for using a reminder tool?

And with regards to your point about pinging friends, I wasn’t talking about that. There are public Discord servers with thousands of members and a manual Pound ping to supplement the bot pings, so again, no, getting rid of the bot wouldn’t change anything.

Previous users have already made the point of how high the site spikes when the bot pings everyone upthread. I would also advocate for public ping groups to "thousands" of users also be removed. No one is going to be "barred", but off-site bots/bots in general should not be used to artificially ensure attendance at every pound opening.

Adults have job, kids have school. That was addressing the user who claimed that kids have some sort of wide advantage on adults that can only be overcome by using the pound bot.

You are not engaging in good faith and are ignoring the points that other users have put time into making about the pound bot, lag, and the surrounding discussion of the pound as a site function. I am not interested in speaking with you past this post.

You can’t advocate for removing those pings because it’s a standard Discord feature. Getting rid of that would be veering way out of CS’s lane. Not every Discord is linked officially to CS and therefore not every Discord is bound by their rules. You’re advocating for a change that is not in any way feasible to implement so best of luck with that.

What would be more feasible is what others are suggesting, making the Pound countdown more accessible to non-Discord users.

I do not have the time to read all 300 posts on this thread. I’m glad you do though, even though you choose to ignore the responses saying that Discord pings are an accessibility feature for neurodivergent people. I apologize if I’ve come across somewhat passive-aggressive, I’m genuinely frustrated because you are arguing to try to take away a tool that makes life easier for people, instead of trying to come up with positive solutions that don’t harm anyone. Site lag is an issue, yes, so how about instead we ask if there’s any way to optimize the site? How about we put Pound bot features on CS instead of trying to take them away? People who use convenient reminders have just as much of a right to attend the Pound as any other site user. Taking away pings is, in a way, barring people from using the Pound, because people have work and school and ADHD and what have you, and they literally do not have the capacity to check for themselves when it is opening. That shouldn’t stop them from getting to participate in a fun, quick, several-minute activity on the site.

[Silver Tiger~]

You can’t advocate for removing those pings because it’s a standard Discord feature. Getting rid of that would be veering way out of CS’s lane. Not every Discord is linked officially to CS and therefore not every Discord is bound by their rules. You’re advocating for a change that is not in any way feasible to implement so best of luck with that.

Snipped to add that I get pinged on other sites besides Discord as well. You can't stop people from doing this, you can't control what people do on the internet.

[Angelx3]

The four Improvements for everyone that dont Take away Something from other people:

- second Countdown once Pound is Open so you have more time to Look at your Page
- better Server Response to Pound influx
- Less Pound pets per Page
- better visible countdown to Pound and Lost & Found
+ CS based remind system

Of which only The First two have a Suggestion thread, so Show your Support for those on their Threads & maybe create one for The other two instead of this...


And if you Need more blame Options go to 'Free Adoptions' and Tell them First come First Server is unfair and only Raffles should be allowed, in fact Ban all Adoption Centers.
Gifting Friends should be banned since thats an unfair Advantage to them & all event Banners should be removed since It obviously favours adults.
Because everyone knows every adult has a Lot of free time and every child is stuck at school for 10h without Access to a mobile. And individual & cultural differences dont exist at all.


Yep i am amazed its Not locked yet.

[_SmollJellyfish_]

Sorry to butt in, but I don't think the Discord bot is the problem,It is a useful tool for many people, and everyone can create a Pound alarm clock for themselves
The real problem is the site which is unable to keep up with the lag of so many people, I think we will have to ask for improvements to the site

Its just my opinion of course!

[jointedwishes]

I think people are also severely overestimating the number of users pound pings actually drive in. I am a manual pinger for the pound in a big cs discord server and even I forget to visit the pound after I ping people. it isn't thousands of people coming online at once. a lot of the people with autoreminds on don't even go on cs for the pound, they just have the ping for when they are available. I don't know why this is so controversial. just set a timer on your phone and you are even. it really is not that deep guys

i agree with this person, as someone who used to have a cs discord server and would help manually ping people, in most cases i would accidentally miss the pound after pinging. it is not as deep and the ping bots are definitely not the problem here.

it is a tool to help out users (if they need a reason or not, it’s to help and that should be enough), we need to find a solution that can help with the lag ON site, not worry about what’s happening off site??

i feel like everyone is losing the the main point, and unfortunately the game will not be able to accommodate everyone’s needs. newer users will have to discover tricks on their own, and everyone will have to use the tools they have in front of their faces.

this is a silly online game experience where you adopt a pet you wouldn’t have had the chance to have without it. it is for fun and to give everyone an extra little boost in their collections (whether that be a common or a vr, regardless you are getting something).


overall, the pound is not perfect by any means, and could use some help fixing the lag. i do not think all of these drastic changes need to happen. at most, randomizing the pet year order and trying to find a way to sort out the lag is enough.

[Buck Ruffler]

i dont really think this has anything to do with pinging bots really and i dont see them having any particularly serious impact

im just wondering if this is a through and done deal, or if more minor adjustments (like some have been discussed) to the pound are still on the table, given that the poll has a 1/3rd split. a non-negligible amount of players want both options, from how i see it... i appreciate cs looking for community feedback, anyhow :]

[Buster2918]

COPPAs can't post in forums, so yes, the discussion here is going to be older adults. Kids under 13 are in school, often are in activities outside of school, and have time-restrictions on internet usage. Additionally, you must be 15/16 in some locales to access discord. Highschoolers/children on this site have about as much free time as a working adult, with the exception of summer/winter breaks (which often see kids having to travel/going to camps/other activities that take up their time anyways). The bot gives adult players, who already have access to advantages (money for c$, ability to form off-site groups to control trading and set prices...).... more advantage. So no, it's not available for EVERYONE on a site supposedly geared towards a playerbase of kids.

just because staff sort-of says it's fine, doesn't make it fair, doesn't mean it's not actively contributing to the pound problem that changing opening size/times won't fix.

Regarding the kids and adults not having time to check the site or set up timers for whatever reason, that sounds like an issyou, not an issme. I miss a lot of pound openings these days, but I'm not going to blame anyone else for my lack of accessibility due to time constraints other than myself? That makes no sense. It's not CS's fault or any random user's fault that my iife is occupied. As it's been stated, removing any pinging feature would literally benefit no one, but rather strip away the accessibility of users utilizing said system. I understand you had this idea and you are clearly passionate about it, but it is not achievable as it is related to off-site bots that CS literally has no control over no matter how hard they try.

On another note, I agree with the idea of potentially adding a live timer or something of the sort, but I'd also be fine without it. I also agree with axes stating that offsite pings don't even bring in as many people as some seem to think. Just because they have a pinging system doesn't mean their life is any less busy. Literally all it does is notify you so you don't have to take time out of your day to check the website. I am glad the staff have deemed notification bots not an issue, because it seems irrational to think that.