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Buy or sell custom-made art - using CS pets, items or C$ as payment. This does not include pre-made character sales.
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Art theft is not tolerated here. Do not copy/trace/edit/use anybody's pictures without their express permission.
If you are unsure, read the full art rules here.

❣ Atelier of Dreams - Custom HQ Art ❣ | ▶ CLOSED ◀ |

Postby Wolfswelpe » Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:55 am

Banner here

Welcome to my Artshop "Atelier of Dreams"!
I'm glad you found your way here. :3

I finally found the time to do this.
The link in my sig for my main artshop has been blank for quite some time. ^^;
It was really long overdue.

I often get Pm's asking about commissions as well, so I decided it was time to finally open a shop again. (:

To learn everything about the shop, just read further.
The next posts will explain things. ;3

Introduction;;
Rules
What I can/can't draw
Kinds of Art + Examples
Payment
Forms & Slots
Pick-Up & Archive


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Favs: Wanderer, Kaveh, Furina, Nahida, Alhaitham, Zhongli, Albedo, Shenhe, Kazuha, Yoimiya & more

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❣ Atelier of Dreams - Rules ❣

Postby Wolfswelpe » Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:12 am

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Yeah, I know no one likes them, but they are needed. x3
Please read them. :3

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    • Tess Rules apply.

    • Please, be polite.
    No one likes mean people and it doesn't get you anywhere either.

    • Remember that I have a life outside CS.
    I am not a machine and my private life always has the priority. ^^
    But I will do my best to complete your orders as soon as possible though may take a while sometimes.

    • Don't sell my art or claim that you've drawn it.
    And my signature is not to be removed!

    • If you take the art Off-Site, always credit and link back to me!

    • After I accepted your form, please send the payment.
    I won't start until I received it, but I also won't accept it until I'm done with your picture.

    • I won't work on the drawings in the order I received your orders in!
    I need to have the motivation to draw something and not be pressured to work in a specific order. I'll work on a drawing when I get inspiration and motivation to work on it, so the order is irregular.

    • I have the right not to accept your order, if the design is to complex for me! But in general, I always try before saying I can't do it. Complex designs are always very hard for me.

    • In addition to the rule above, I reserve the right to deny your order, if I don't like the payment you choose! I have a busy life and I can't just draw for cheap anymore. I would if I could, but I don't have much time to do hobbies as is, so it needs to be worth my time.

    • Don't forget to save the image to your computer!
    It might happen that something will be deleted or lost, so better be prepared.

    • Make sure that you have a reference, please. ^^
    It's already difficult for me to draw with references, but it's impossible for me to do something with only a description.
    I am sorry about that. (I'd prefer drawn and unshaded references, or just a reference where I can clearly see the markings and get the right colors. I may take other things like real life pictures or traditional references, if it's not to hard to get the colors, markings etc.)

    • Please credit me, if you post the artwork anywhere else! A link back to my deviantart account is highly appreciated and encouraged.


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❣ Atelier of Dreams - What I can/can't draw ❣

Postby Wolfswelpe » Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:19 am

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Here I explain what I can draw for you. :3
But also the things I can try and the ones I can definitely not do.

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I can draw:

    • Wolves
    • Dogs
    • Other Canines
    • Felines (eg. Cats, Lions etc.)
    • Most Mammals
    • Most user made species (eg. JBDs, JMDs, Kias, RPWs, Plumies)
    • Most fluffy Animals on four paws xD
    • Hair and Accessories on Animals

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I can try:

    • Humans*
    • Rats
    • Deers
    • Dragons (it depends on how complex they are but I can do most)
    • Bears
    • Reptiles
    • Equines (only can do heads and busts, have problems with the body)
    • Fish, Water Animals
    • Most Farm Animals
    • Animals of Fables
    • Squids
    • Anything else (just ask, I will see then)

* I'm currently learning how to draw humans (mostly Manga-style), but I'm only comfortable with heads and busts right now. Still have problems with hands and legs + feet, so fullbodies still look weird.

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I can't draw:

    • Explicit or extreme violence (small amounts of blood are fine, just remember CS rules!)
    • Sparkle dogs or to complex/difficult designs
    • Anthros
(There are probably things I can't think of right now)

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❣ Atelier of Dreams - Kinds of Art + Examples ❣

Postby Wolfswelpe » Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:28 am

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Here I explain every single kind of Art I can do for you. :3
The example to said method is right under the description.
I think it's a good way to know what is which. ;3

Some examples here are a bit older, so to get a feeling of which pieces are more recent and to see other examples,
just take a look at my deviantArt account.
I'd recommend to look at it. ^^

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Colored Sketch
It can be a headshot, fullbody, anything really.
The drawing will be very sketchy and messily colored.
No fine work.
It is the fastest and cheapest though.
There will be no real background. It's a simple transparent one.

Example~
Comes Soon!

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Colored Sketch with Shading & Highlights
Exactly the same as above, except the fact that it's shaded and highlighted.
It costs a bit more, but isn't to expensive either.

Example~
Comes Soon!

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Flat Colored Headshot
A flat colored headshot will show only the Character's head and neck.
Of course, like the title says, it doesn't have any shading.
The background will be transparent.

Examples~
{xXx} | {xXx} | {xXx} | {xXx} | {xXx} | {xXx}

You may also look here. They are headshots that I've drawn for my other artshop. c:
Newer | Older

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Colored Headshot with Simple Shading
This is the same as the flat colored headshot.
The only difference is, that it includes a simple way of shading.
Once again, the background will be transparent.

Examples~
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Colored Headshot with Detailed Shading
Instead of simple shading you get detailed shading.
The fur structure will be visible in this one for example.
The background will be transparent as well.

Examples~
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Flat Colored Fullbody
Here you get a fullbody drawing of your Character.
It can be any pose.
The background will be transparent and it has no shading.

Examples~
{xXx} | {xXx} | {xXx} | {xXx} | {xXx} | {xXx}

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Colored Fullbody with Simple Shading
Here you get a fullbody drawing of your Character as well.
This time with simple shading again and of course any pose you like.
The background will be transparent.

Examples~
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Colored Fullbody with Semi-detailed Shading
Once again a fullbody drawing, but this time with the semi-detailed shading.
Any pose is possible.
Background will be transparent.

Examples~
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Colored Fullbody with Detailed Shading
Once again a fullbody drawing, but this time with the detailed shading.
Any pose is possible.
Background will be transparent.

Examples~
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Full drawing with background, shading etc.
With this option you get a full picture.
I will warn you though, that the background might not be the best.
I'm still bad at doing backgrounds, but I hope I improve.

Example~
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Reference Sheet
With this you can get a full reference of your Character.
The colors, accessories, some infos, everything you need and want included.

Example~
{xXx}

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• I can do more than one character in a piece, but each additional character costs more.
• I'll also do try-out art, but only if I'm not helping anyone alse in the same contest already.

For more and better examples, check out the Archive and my deviantart!

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What is open, what isn't?

Check here, which options are open and which not. ^-^


Colored Sketch ~ OPEN
Colored Sketch with Shading & Highlights ~ OPEN
Flat Colored Headshot ~ OPEN
Colored Headshot with Simple Shading ~ OPEN
Colored Headshot with Detailed Shading ~ OPEN
Flat Colored Fullbody ~ CLOSED (you can try to bribe me for this slot)
Colored Fullbody with Simple Shading ~ CLOSED (you can try to bribe me for this slot)
Colored Fullbody with Semi-detailed Shading ~ CLOSED
Colored Fullbody with Detailed Shading ~ CLOSED
Full Drawing ~ CLOSED
Reference Sheet ~ CLOSED

NOTE: Only because one option says it's open, doesn't mean it really is.
Always look at the title of the thread!
If the thread says "CLOSED" all these options are closed as well, even though one might say it's open.
I just haven't updated this post then.


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❣ Atelier of Dreams - Payment ❣

Postby Wolfswelpe » Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:50 am

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This is what I accept as payment. I have no set prices (it's more like a bribe shop).
I would prefer if you can give something from the options. Exceptions can be made, but this is extremely rare nowadays.
Of course you can mix all options. It just shows, what I search for. c:
In the end you just say what you would give and I will accept or not.
Payment can be discussed every time.
More options will be added in time.

NEW, PLEASE READ: If you're unsure about payment and afraid to make a suggestion, I added a loose guide at the end of this post. You can use that as a reference. It's no set prices, but a good ballpark to make it a bit easier. c;

Note: Struck out options are not open at the moment!
I won't accept these as payment for the time being.
They probably open another time though.

All options can be mixed!

[If you're interested in paying with USD (though I don't think anyone would want to),
please contact me on deviantart or per pm. ^^]

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Option 1:

Wishlist Pets:
Anything on my WL is highly wanted.
They are my top priority.

The following pets on my wishlist do no count as this payment:
[1], [2]
They are hoard pets and fall under option 5.

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Option 2:

C$:
I do accept a good amount of C$ (ChickenDollar).

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Option 3:

Non-Wishlist Pets:

I accept Rares/Very Rares/OMG so Rares of any year and Uncommons from 08, 09, 10.

But when it comes to non-wishlist pets, I'm mostly searching for List Pets & Old valuable pets.

Please keep in mind though, that I'm more inclined to accept your order if you offer wishlist pets.


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Option 4:

Items:

Looking for wishlist items.
Items that were released normally/in events are most wanted. But my top priority items are animal eggs I'm missing! After that come plushies and anything that resembles an animal. Then accessories etc. After that come store items. Any item on my wishlist is highly wanted. I accept this as payment if you offer a good amount. But may not be open for more detailed art as main payment though you can add it as additional payment to something else.

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Option 5:

Hoard Pets:
(I have these hoards at the moment.)

Click here~

And here


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Option 6:

Off-site Currency:

One thing I need off-site are dA points.
I almost always accept these and really need them.


(Not really off-site currency, but I also gladly accept USD. Though I don't think anyone would pay that. x3 PM me if you're interested in paying USD, instead of ordering here.) Can't accept USD yet, I need a paypal account first .

Other Adoptable Sites:

Furry-Paws
• Money (FDP)
• FPP (really needed)
• Rare Items

Magistream
• Shards
• Gold
• Creatures (especially Donation creatures)

Flight Rising
• Treasure
• Gems (really needed)
• Rare Items (beautiful accessories, battle stones especially)
• Dragons

Eldemore
• Pets

Wajas
• WC
• CWP (really needed)
• Rare Items (beautiful accessories, pears, dyes, tokens etc.)
• Gen 1/2/3 Wajas


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Option 7:

Art Trades:

Sometimes I accept Art Trades. You have to show me examples of your art.
Don't be sad or hurt, if I decline your offer though.
It just means that I'm not really interested in your style or it doesn't fit my taste and not that your art is ugly or bad.


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Option 8:

Characters/Designs:

This highly depends. I will give a full list of what I like and don't like later.
For now, just make an offer.


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Here is the loose pricing guide I promised. c:

Like I said, these prices are only for reference and not a set price. In the end the real price will depend on what species I'm supposed to draw, how complex their design is and other factors. I will state everything in C$ as it makes it easier. You can convert the amount of C$ and how much it would be in pets with the "How Much is This Worth in C$" thread.

Colored Sketch - Around 15 - 20 C$ or the equivalent of pets etc. (depends on the kind of sketch, headshot or fullbody)
Colored Sketch with Shading & Highlights - Around 20 - 30 C$ or the equivalent of pets etc. (depends on the kind of sketch, headshot or fullbody)
Flat Colored Headshot - Around 30 - 40 C$ or the equivalent of pets etc.
Colored Headshot with Simple Shading - Around 40 - 50 C$ or the equivalent of pets etc.
Colored Headshot with Detailed Shading - Around 60 - 80 C$ or the equivalent of pets etc.
Flat Colored Fullbody - Around 150 C$ or the equivalent of pets etc.
Colored Fullbody with Simple Shading - Around 200 C$ or the equivalent of pets etc.
Colored Fullbody with Semi-detailed Shading - Around 250 C$ or the equivalent of pets etc.
Colored Fullbody with Detailed Shading - Around 300 C$ or the equivalent of pets etc.
Full Drawing - Around 400 - 600 C$ or the equivalent of pets etc. (this very highly depends on the drawing components, the kind of background and how detailed everything is etc. so this is really flimsy and I added a big range)
Reference Sheet - Around 300 - 400 C$ or the equivalent of pets etc. (depends on how much information and stuff needs to be on the ref)


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❣ Atelier of Dreams - Forms & Slots ❣

Postby Wolfswelpe » Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:59 am

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Here is the form section.
There are two forms.
One for normal orders and one for Art Trade Requests.
Please try to fill out everything.
Please delete the brackets {} and everything in it!

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Normal Order Form

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[color=#5b5a57][size=85][b][u]I'd like to order![/u][/b]
[b]Username:[/b]
[b]Character Name:[/b]
[b]Character Species:[/b]
[b]Gender:[/b]
[b]Art Type:[/b] {ex. sketch, lineart, flat colored headshot etc.}
[b]Character Reference:[/b]
[b]Pose Preference:[/b] {Just fill out, if you have anything in mind. Keep it blank otherwise.}
[b]Anything else?:[/b] {Any info I should know/keep in mind?}
[b]Payment:[/b]
[b]Other:[/b][/size][/color]


Art Trade Form

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[color=#5b5a57][size=85][b][u]I'd like to request an Art Trade![/u][/b]
[b]Username:[/b]
[b]Examples of Art:[/b]
[b]Anything else?:[/b]
[b]Other:[/b][/size][/color]


If you want to offer a Character or a Design, you don't have to fill in the form.
Just ask if I'm interested in the character/design in the first place and then we'll see. c;

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Here are the currently filled slots.
Only three at a time, but I also have a waiting list that opens occasionally.

Orders:

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    3.


Waiting List:

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    2.
    3.


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❣ Atelier of Dreams - Pick-Up & Archive ❣

Postby Wolfswelpe » Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:06 am

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Here is the Pick-Up.
The orders put here are the latest one.
They will remain here for one session, meaning until the next order round starts.
Then they will be moved onto the Archive.

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3.

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All old orders will be stored here.

Normal Orders

xan | Mooski | nactive | GasW0lf | MirrorMask


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❣ Atelier of Dreams - Reserved ❣

Postby Wolfswelpe » Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:08 am

Reserved just in case~
Maybe for an Event? ;3
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❣ Atelier of Dreams - Reserved ❣

Postby Wolfswelpe » Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:09 am

Reserved just in case~
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Trade Thread

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❣ Atelier of Dreams - Posting Open ❣

Postby Wolfswelpe » Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:14 am

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Posting is now open. :3
Not everything is completely done yet though.
I will probably update the list of "Kinds of Art" and add more to it or tweak it a little.
There no examples for each section either yet. I didn't draw much lately so I don't have one for each kind right now.
I may alter some things also.

This shop will only open when I really have the time.
I don't want to create a fiasco and accept so much that I can't handle.
I hope to open the shop real soon.

Of course you can post to mark this thread. x3

See ya soon!
*hopefully*


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Right now, I'm in Genshin Impact hell (as you can probably tell). Have been playing every day since launch haha. I don't have much time, but if you need help with smaller stuff, hit me up and I'll share my UID. I'm on the Europe server~

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AR60 • EU Server • Playing since: Launch •
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