(This post exists to talk solely about the issues of the current cs trading scene, and the lack of moderation around it.)
- do not use this post as an attempt to shame, call out, vague, or harrass others, including staff
- do not post examples of trades (not sure if that would cross into trade rant thread territory, so please don't)
- do not use this post as an attempt to shame, call out, vague, or harrass others, including staff
- do not post examples of trades (not sure if that would cross into trade rant thread territory, so please don't)
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Trading. Let's talk about it.
If you've been on cs for.. a month or so, it's very apparent that the trading scene is a bit hectic and uncontrolled at the moment. These are some specific issues that i've noticed that I feel should be addressed. I would like this thread to remain constructive. Any ideas on how to improve these issues, or personal perspectives, is greatly appreciated.
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- Ninja Trading: Within the past few months, I and others have noticed a rise in ninja trades and attempted scams, especially surrounding the new monthly rares and returning users. It seems as though others are becoming more than willing to take more than necessary, or even fair, for these pets. The whole point of the rare outcomes update was to let newer users and users without pets or experience in trading rares have a chance at them, and now it seems as if every slightly hard to get outcome is a few rares or more. A lot of these attempts are also coming from experienced users towards less experienced or returning ones that i've noticed. Lying about high demand/rarity values has become common from what i've seen, and it's becoming increasingly more unfair and concerning.
Have you noticed this as well? How can we mitigate this issue beyond punishment/banning?
- Refusal to research values and fairness: I've also noticed a lot of newer and returning players becoming increasingly frustrated that their trades are being canceled, or were scammed. This seems to go hand in hand with the lack of knowledge, or want, to check the fair and successful trade threads. There are multiple clear guides on high value trading that I (and others) feel are being ignored. These threads exist for a reason, and it's really unfortunate that people are just choosing not to use them to their detriment. I feel as though highlighting these threads more often, like pinning them to the trade forum or even making an official cs post to acknowledge these things exists could help tremendously.
Do you think this could at least slow down ninja-trading? How can we make these resources more obvious?
- Lack of/inconsistent moderation: Personally, i've reported many users for scamming as of late. Disappointingly, no punishments have been made by my reports, or others. This is extremely concerning, as trading is the main point of the site, and it seems that every staff member has different opinions on what fair trading is, and what is a scam vs. what isn't. This is.. obviously an issue. When there is clear proof that a user who knows values is misrepresenting them, something should be done so that they can't do it again.
What can we suggest from staff to help this issue?
Trading. Let's talk about it.
If you've been on cs for.. a month or so, it's very apparent that the trading scene is a bit hectic and uncontrolled at the moment. These are some specific issues that i've noticed that I feel should be addressed. I would like this thread to remain constructive. Any ideas on how to improve these issues, or personal perspectives, is greatly appreciated.
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- Ninja Trading: Within the past few months, I and others have noticed a rise in ninja trades and attempted scams, especially surrounding the new monthly rares and returning users. It seems as though others are becoming more than willing to take more than necessary, or even fair, for these pets. The whole point of the rare outcomes update was to let newer users and users without pets or experience in trading rares have a chance at them, and now it seems as if every slightly hard to get outcome is a few rares or more. A lot of these attempts are also coming from experienced users towards less experienced or returning ones that i've noticed. Lying about high demand/rarity values has become common from what i've seen, and it's becoming increasingly more unfair and concerning.
Have you noticed this as well? How can we mitigate this issue beyond punishment/banning?
- Refusal to research values and fairness: I've also noticed a lot of newer and returning players becoming increasingly frustrated that their trades are being canceled, or were scammed. This seems to go hand in hand with the lack of knowledge, or want, to check the fair and successful trade threads. There are multiple clear guides on high value trading that I (and others) feel are being ignored. These threads exist for a reason, and it's really unfortunate that people are just choosing not to use them to their detriment. I feel as though highlighting these threads more often, like pinning them to the trade forum or even making an official cs post to acknowledge these things exists could help tremendously.
Do you think this could at least slow down ninja-trading? How can we make these resources more obvious?
- Lack of/inconsistent moderation: Personally, i've reported many users for scamming as of late. Disappointingly, no punishments have been made by my reports, or others. This is extremely concerning, as trading is the main point of the site, and it seems that every staff member has different opinions on what fair trading is, and what is a scam vs. what isn't. This is.. obviously an issue. When there is clear proof that a user who knows values is misrepresenting them, something should be done so that they can't do it again.
What can we suggest from staff to help this issue?