Viscet Suggestions Thread {Posting Open!}

[Vixen Luo]

That's actually the route I wish I'd gone, in all honesty, and it didn't occur to me until after I jumped to use the potion. ^^; I could've just done that instead hh and I can't blame anyone but myself.

I understand the argument against it too, though; my only suggestion would be to leave it as is for the 24 hour period before going in to officially make it PPS? Then, after that, there's no going back. Idk haha I just would hate for someone else to make the same mistake.
But at the end of the day it's just a suggestion, so it's not a big deal if it's turned down, you know? Even if it comes into play it won't help my case now.

[Razors]

Going with True's idea, maybe if they want a pps potion applied, perhaps the artist doesn't apply it until the day of growth to adult? As the sort of 'think it over' period? Then if they are positive then they can keep it pps?

Honestly...I had intended for the baby I had to be pps, so I told Griff that there was a chance I'd use a pps potion. When I didn't and then Griff had to find time to make the adult form too....i felt super guilty. I know that waiting could be annoying for artists too if it happens too much. But I think it could be a good suggestion in case someone changes their mind before due date?

[Mint Chip]

Although these are good and thoughtful suggestions, it really would create more of a strain and hassle on the nursery artist team. A lot of the artists do all the stages of the batches in one go (when a growth potion isn't applied). This in itself makes the PPS potion only slightly annoying in itself when an artist has already completed the adult stage but the owner wants the batch pps'd.

now I'm not knocking PPS's and honestly I think it's great when others want to keep their babes pps. But my best suggestion for further issues, and other such things is when putting in your batch request to mention that you may want a pps potion but after seeing the juvenile stage - try to determine whether you want it to remain smol forever within the first 3 days. Growths from juv to adult take 7 days in total. If by the 3rd day you don't want it to remain juv then let the artist know, that gives them 4 days to find time to do the adult stage in the meantime. (granted it might still be a little late but if so it wouldn't be by more than a day or two at most)

pps potions have never been reversible, and likely won't ever be. so it is wise to be pre-cautious when using one of course, but if you are in love with the design. And never intend to bred it, then really I don't see much of an issue with keeping it pps. The only thing aside from breed that it cannot do is "date" or have a mate, so really a very small sacrifice honestly.

but again this suggestion was good in theory, but overall would make more work for the artists, as well as extra stress in waiting for a determining factor. but keep suggesting new ideas and things that we can try to improve upon - because there is a lot that we might not have even thought of. so please don't get discouraged if an idea isn't exactly feasible because there are tons of others that could be!

also I needed to mark this thread P:

[Soulsplosion]

What do people think of being allowed to use Mutation potions on the Nursery to specifically request (a) trait(s) to not be passed down?
(or some other potion that does this)

Spoke with artists

[Razors]

I know Halloween is forever away... But as a suggestion for next time (or in general?) quills...they'd be similar to spikes, but thinner. I'd love to see them in place of back frill, too, but not massive quantities... Maybe a couple scattered on their hind quarters. Legs, arms, and head could be good places too.

Also... This may be extreme... But maybe a Naga viscet? Or snake tail? I also was kind of hoping to see bat wings, but maybe next year?


All just random idea suggestions. Feel free to ignore me if you want!

[Razors]

I would like to suggest Space Dandy hair...>.> I would love to see this on a viscet...

[-Shaded-]

Naga viscets sound cool!
How about.... a Fine China line of viscets? Like tea-cups and plates... oh! Don't forget vases ;P
I've been wanting to see a Hawaii themed viscets (that wasn't a custom. Rip)

croc viscet plzzzzzz

[LucidDreary]

Lots of good ideas flowing in here...
I was thinking, for a special event mutation, a husky tail would be so cool & adorable for this time of year! ^o^

[Razors]

This is in regards to the new prices for breeding for certain traits.

Pretty sure I'm one of the people to blame for this...and I apologize to everyone it has affected.

I do want to say, though, that I feel like the price is a tiny bit extreme. DA points wise this is almost the price of a T1 custom.
My point is that not a lot of people can afford the prices that have been set. I am not complaining for myself, I will happily pay it when needed. (I still have two 'owed breedings' that I will be paying this price for, actually. v.v;)
I also feel it is unfair to those who have never bred their Viscets with certain traits before.

I'm sure this will not exactly help the issue at hand, but I propose a sort of 'increase' of payment each time a certain viscet is bred.
Say the starter price is 8CS, the second time I breed the same viscet for the tail mouth trait it becomes 16CS, and after that it becomes 32, so on and so forth.

At least this way someone can get at least one breeding from the viscet they own before paying an arm and a leg for another baby. There are people who have Tailmouth's, or other event rares that have never bred their's before (I'm sorry, again v.v;)

I already see an issue with 'well, they will breed one and give it to a friend, who will breed that one, then breed that one...and all for the single breeding price of 8CS.'

Maybe make the tail mouth (or any event rare), only to pass on one or two generations? This is kept up with easily enough as you already have to post family on a batch. Maybe the trait 'dissolves' after a generation or two?

This just means we have to think more deeply on who we want to breed our viscets with and not wastefully breed with anyone.


I don't know, I'm really just trying to help a situation that I feel I created. I, again, apologize for this.

(I will remove this if you want me to.)

[Mint Chip]

This is in regards to the new prices for breeding for certain traits.

Pretty sure I'm one of the people to blame for this...and I apologize to everyone it has affected.

I do want to say, though, that I feel like the price is a tiny bit extreme. DA points wise this is almost the price of a T1 custom.
My point is that not a lot of people can afford the prices that have been set. I am not complaining for myself, I will happily pay it when needed. (I still have two 'owed breedings' that I will be paying this price for, actually. v.v;)
I also feel it is unfair to those who have never bred their Viscets with certain traits before.

I'm sure this will not exactly help the issue at hand, but I propose a sort of 'increase' of payment each time a certain viscet is bred.
Say the starter price is 8CS, the second time I breed the same viscet for the tail mouth trait it becomes 16CS, and after that it becomes 32, so on and so forth.

At least this way someone can get at least one breeding from the viscet they own before paying an arm and a leg for another baby. There are people who have Tailmouth's, or other event rares that have never bred their's before (I'm sorry, again v.v;)

I already see an issue with 'well, they will breed one and give it to a friend, who will breed that one, then breed that one...and all for the single breeding price of 8CS.'

Maybe make the tail mouth (or any event rare), only to pass on one or two generations? This is kept up with easily enough as you already have to post family on a batch. Maybe the trait 'dissolves' after a generation or two?

This just means we have to think more deeply on who we want to breed our viscets with and not wastefully breed with anyone.


I don't know, I'm really just trying to help a situation that I feel I created. I, again, apologize for this.

(I will remove this if you want me to.)

It took many people to get to this point, Razors, so I assure you it's not solely you. This motion has been made because there are 31 (soon to be 35) tailmouths in total. Considering most of the other event rares stagger at 10 or under in all of existence. The Tailmouths more than double that number. As it stands and with the influx there is a high probability at this point that there will be no more tailmouths released in events for a least 1 year. If the influx worsens then likely we may never release them at an event again. This is a major problem. I know a lot of people want to have these but it is getting extremely out of hand.

Simply making the price "8 c$" and doubling each time is bred solves the issue of continuous breeders (but those who have money, like you and many others) won't be swayed to cut back on these breedings. And "new" users who receive the babies can pay the minimum amount and receive a new babe. Breeding that tailmouth beginning at the "cheapest" price, and their baby and so on and so on.

There is no way to make tapering off the trait okay either. Because imagine readopts, it's a 2nd gen readopt but it can't pass down that trait whatsoever? How's that anymore fair that jacking up the price to deter people from breeding? There are so many things we've considered and this is the best option as it stands. As it stands we have been hoping this tailmouth fad would sort of subside on it's own, but it's only persisted in becoming more and more apparent over time. There were 4 tailmouth nursery batches purchased within less than a full 24 hours shortly after the nursery had opened. The sad thing is, is if this influx doesn't calm or subside then likely I'll have to nix the tailmouth as a purchaseable mutation all together. And it may come to that.

I'll go through and edit my post here in a moment to give better feedback.
but the dA point pricing has been off for a long time which is back when people thought 25 pts = 1c$.
this was before I did the math to determine exactly the USD equivalent of C$ and whatnot.
I have adjusted the prices of the dA points after we (the staff) figured out a fair equivalent.

However: if adjusting the prices as they are now still does not calm down the influx on the tailmouths (because at this point they are less rare than a lot of our rare traits & a couple of our uncommon traits) then I will adjust the points per c$ ratio to be a bit higher.