Feedback Needed: Change to Oekaki Organisation

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Please tell us what you'd like for the oekaki organisation!

I like the way those boards are organised already and I don't want them to change.
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I don't like the way those boards are organised. I'd like a new category system!
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I like the suggestion to sort the art by the subject e.g. human, animal, landscapes...
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I would prefer the art to be sorted by some other method (please detail in comments)
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I have other suggestions for new oekaki boards (please detail in comments)
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Re: Feedback Needed: Change to Oekaki Organisation

Postby Winchester's Wolf » Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:34 am

Hi! Hello there! I personally like the boards just the way that they are, but the thing I don't like is how some drawings being put in one category that the artist had worked so hard on, only for it to be moved into Beginner's Oekaki. That has happened many times before with me, but I haven't really said anything about it. But it does hurt me a little bit as it is putting a label on where my art belongs.

But as for the new organizations, I believe it will still put labels on the drawings as the drawings might be moved into the wrong category. And for some of it, even though it's simple to understand, I believe someone will have a problem with where to put their content if it seems to belong in one or more of the categories. edit: I just saw the combo category. But it was just a thought that crossed my mind.

I might be wrong, but I thought I might at least say something I guess.
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Re: Feedback Needed: Change to Oekaki Organisation

Postby jasps » Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:57 am

Yes!! Totally agree and wish for this change. I think the criteria could be, what the main subject of the piece is; ie an anthro character w a background would still obsiously be anthro.

I'd suggest knocking out beginner and intermediate in favour of those categories and keeping sketches and experiments for solely that sort of work and advanced for people who'd like to submit HQ art, removing beginner and intermediate. If it doesn't fit the bar of advanced it can just go back into one of the new categories suggested.
That's just my thoughts of course, but I've definitely seen lots of people's feelings being hurt by the current system, even though I think it does provide a valuable perspective on how volunteer/professionals would class your art skill. (despite being subjective of course!)
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Re: Feedback Needed: Change to Oekaki Organisation

Postby Loxosceles » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:40 am

Not sure how much this has been said already but, as much as I would LOVE the boards to be separated by subject matter, that's far too many categories. Why are animals and made up species two different boards? This is a really good and solid idea, but it needs to be cut down into fewer categories.
Glad you're getting rid of the skill level boards though!

Edit: I also think that fanart/fandom shouldn't be it's own board. Those works could easily fit into the other boards and it would just serve to be another section where one isn't needed.
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Re: Feedback Needed: Change to Oekaki Organisation

Postby angel23456 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:34 am

I personally like the Oekaki boards being organized by skill level, but I wouldn't mind the switch, though I think I would prefer if tags were added to the drawings, so maybe you could click on a tag and see all related artwork. I personally like being able to go to my own gallery and view all of my Advanced artwork instead of loping them all together, the good and the bad of my work.

The Oekaki boards already give a description of what belongs in them. For example, all art in Adavanced needs to be "the most advanced art with accurate anatomy, creative coloring, details like shading and backgrounds" so I think it is fair to move the art around to fit the criteria for the boards. (Some of mine have been moved as well)

I do like the suggested groups, though for the most part, if the change is made. I think combining all animals, for example, real or fantastical, would be much too large of a group if we're going to start grouping this way, and combing humans and animals would be even more so. I do think there should still be a category for sketches and experiments, though, and I think "Other" should encompass reference sheets and combo drawings.

(this all coming from an artist who fairly regularly posts in Advanced and mainly draws realistic animals, for reference)



Hardly related, but can it be made to where we can delete our own artwork if someone has commented on it? I have so many I want to remove but am unable to because people have already commented on them years ago.
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Re: Feedback Needed: Change to Oekaki Organisation

Postby Pear » Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:26 pm

I kinda wish there was a way to separate all of the oekaki adoptable species threads from the available to adopt artworks.
It's kinda a pain to try and find new adoptable species when there's so many colored-in adoptables clogging up that board x3
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Re: Feedback Needed: Change to Oekaki Organisation

Postby Asha' Arts » Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:27 pm

i dont have anything in particular to mention, but something like how deviantart set things up is really nice and organized!
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Re: Feedback Needed: Change to Oekaki Organisation

Postby liiontai » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:57 pm

As someone who's been using the Oekaki for ages, I do like this idea! Though I have two suggestions:

Fantasy/Animal Art:
I feel like these will often be confused or mixed. Especially since a lot of artists will draw characters that are a mix of species (eg a dog with horns/extended tail/etc). I think a "Feral Art" for creatures that are mixes or real-animal adjacent, "Fantasy" for strictly fantasy creatures such as dragons, gryphons and such, and an "Anthro" for furry art.

Sketches and Experiments:
I think it would be a good idea to divide the new categories into finished pieces and sketches/experiments. So people can choose to view between quick doodles or more polished art.

Looking forward to whatever is decided on!
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Re: Feedback Needed: Change to Oekaki Organisation

Postby skylasha » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:03 am

I really like the ideas! I think this is a much more effective organization plan and it'll be nice to remove the feeling of judgement for sure!

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Re: Feedback Needed: Change to Oekaki Organisation

Postby MeltiTheDragon » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:39 pm

    Please, please, this would be an amazing change. I've actually told people before that they're far too good for beginners! :3 It also does help with the feelings of judgement that comes with 'skill' levels, even if said judgement has never been intentional.
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Re: Feedback Needed: Change to Oekaki Organisation

Postby Michael's Fan. » Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:08 am

I love this idea. When I wasn't as good as I am at drawing and my posts would get moved from intermediate to beginners by mods it was really hurtful, because I felt I had reached that level of skill and the mods may think my art hadn't (which I indeed did.)

They move it based on opinion and I don't like that. It really degrades us as artists and makes us feel our art isn't worth it.


Also It'd be nice to have some bigger canvases or choose our own pixel resolution!
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