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Re: old store pets event suggestion!

Postby Obius » Thu May 16, 2019 1:51 pm

There are a few ways for old store pets to come back. But unfortunately there is too much greed involved.

If you were here in the beginning, you would recall that Tess wished for store pets to be available to those that could not afford them or missed out on them. This is where a few December 18th re-released store pets came from. It was halted almost immediately. The reason given was that, if you can get the pets for free, why spend any money buying them?

The large rejection to this changed her mind. And now she takes the stance that they will never be for free or resold again. To make things more reasonable, they have been deemed not official collectible pets. I would not be surprised if they get removed from the archives one day.

It also does not help that the few that spend the most are in charge. If your biggest sponsors threatened to leave cause you wanted to change store pets to always available to buy (like some store items), you would ditch that idea pronto. No reason to turn down thousands of dollars over a way to ensure everyone can get them for a short time until the mounting server bills cause a site shutdown.

Also, people want their value to go up to get those dream pets they crave but could not afford. So few support pets that do not grow in value. No one wants to spend $5 on a pet that is effectively OMGSC for always being available. It is why items don't get rarities. Its not the fluctuation thats the biggest problem, its that people focus too much on rarity and would skip on buying cause "its not worth it".

Now in theory, the next store pets could have a disclaimer that says "buying this pet is not a guarantee it will never be in the store again." This would remove the greed but take away some incentive to buy it. However this has been implemented successfully in a popular game called Fortnite. The team never promise the items brought will not come back again. Unless its specifically retired, the majority of items will be back in the shop. But it may take months or years and it will only be there for 1 day... And they still make a killing. So if Tess does decide to make them more accessible and less like how they are now, this method (or something like it) is a good possibility (even if their price goes up as a sort of compromise).

After all that I have seen with rarity drama, maybe its not such a bad idea to change this.

***Note that this is just my opinion. My facts and ideas my be completely wrong. And I am known for being wrong alot!***

P.S. I suggested 2nd or 3rd gen store pets only available in the store (created from breeding earlier store pets). It is unknown if this will ever happen. If it does, it may be the closest thing you could get to getting an old pet if they get too rare to trade for.

Hope you manage to get them before they get unobtainable. I already gave up on some.
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Re: old store pets event suggestion!

Postby mirta000 » Fri May 17, 2019 2:13 am

Obius wrote: If you were here in the beginning, you would recall that Tess wished for store pets to be available to those that could not afford them or missed out on them. This is where a few December 18th re-released store pets came from. It was halted almost immediately. The reason given was that, if you can get the pets for free, why spend any money buying them?


I was not here in the beginning. I joined in 2018. Honestly I joined due to word of mouth, but if I was told that collection is almost impossible, I would not have bothered.

Obius wrote:I would not be surprised if they get removed from the archives one day.


I would be for that. No reason to collect or buy them at all if they're not part of the collection.

Obius wrote:Also, people want their value to go up to get those dream pets they crave but could not afford. So few support pets that do not grow in value. No one wants to spend $5 on a pet that is effectively OMGSC for always being available. It is why items don't get rarities. Its not the fluctuation thats the biggest problem, its that people focus too much on rarity and would skip on buying cause "its not worth it".


Shouldn't that mean that best course of action would be to do away with rarities?

Obius wrote:Now in theory, the next store pets could have a disclaimer that says "buying this pet is not a guarantee it will never be in the store again." This would remove the greed but take away some incentive to buy it. However this has been implemented successfully in a popular game called Fortnite. The team never promise the items brought will not come back again. Unless its specifically retired, the majority of items will be back in the shop. But it may take months or years and it will only be there for 1 day... And they still make a killing. So if Tess does decide to make them more accessible and less like how they are now, this method (or something like it) is a good possibility (even if their price goes up as a sort of compromise).


Honestly, this is the first time that I see exclusivity on this level. All games that I regularly play (including MMOs) had the longest exclusive period to an item for about 5 years. Everything is on rotation and comes back, because otherwise your new players will be highly turned off.

Obius wrote:Hope you manage to get them before they get unobtainable. I already gave up on some.


Yeah, considering the pressure I've just been pondering for a few days now, should I straight up quit lol. Feels very pointless when you know that there's a possibility that you'll never finish your collection.
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Re: old store pets event suggestion!

Postby DrinaLestrange » Sat May 18, 2019 2:31 am

You've already been told by multiple people that store pets are NOT part of obtaining a complete collection so I'm not sure why you're stuck on that. You've been here a little over a year and this website has been around for 10+ years. You cannot expect to easily obtain 10 years worth of pets in a year. There are plenty of users who don't need a complete collection to enjoy this website. I'd rather have my few thousand multi tail dogs than a complete collection anytime.
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Re: old store pets event suggestion!

Postby ~Phantom » Sat May 18, 2019 1:16 pm

mirta000 wrote:
Obius wrote: If you were here in the beginning, you would recall that Tess wished for store pets to be available to those that could not afford them or missed out on them. This is where a few December 18th re-released store pets came from. It was halted almost immediately. The reason given was that, if you can get the pets for free, why spend any money buying them?


I was not here in the beginning. I joined in 2018. Honestly I joined due to word of mouth, but if I was told that collection is almost impossible, I would not have bothered.

Obius wrote:I would not be surprised if they get removed from the archives one day.


I would be for that. No reason to collect or buy them at all if they're not part of the collection.

Obius wrote:Also, people want their value to go up to get those dream pets they crave but could not afford. So few support pets that do not grow in value. No one wants to spend $5 on a pet that is effectively OMGSC for always being available. It is why items don't get rarities. Its not the fluctuation thats the biggest problem, its that people focus too much on rarity and would skip on buying cause "its not worth it".


Shouldn't that mean that best course of action would be to do away with rarities?

Obius wrote:Now in theory, the next store pets could have a disclaimer that says "buying this pet is not a guarantee it will never be in the store again." This would remove the greed but take away some incentive to buy it. However this has been implemented successfully in a popular game called Fortnite. The team never promise the items brought will not come back again. Unless its specifically retired, the majority of items will be back in the shop. But it may take months or years and it will only be there for 1 day... And they still make a killing. So if Tess does decide to make them more accessible and less like how they are now, this method (or something like it) is a good possibility (even if their price goes up as a sort of compromise).


Honestly, this is the first time that I see exclusivity on this level. All games that I regularly play (including MMOs) had the longest exclusive period to an item for about 5 years. Everything is on rotation and comes back, because otherwise your new players will be highly turned off.

Obius wrote:Hope you manage to get them before they get unobtainable. I already gave up on some.


Yeah, considering the pressure I've just been pondering for a few days now, should I straight up quit lol. Feels very pointless when you know that there's a possibility that you'll never finish your collection.



Firstly, if you've been here more than a year, and JUST figured out that it is very hard (not impossible) to get a full collection, then you must not have been very involved in forums and such, as when the list was around, that was one way to realise how hard some pets are to get.

They should still be part of the archives, because they are a pet that has been adopted out. Just because they are so hard to get, doesn't mean they should be pulled from the archives. As mentioned before, tess has said that they aren't part of the 'big collection' in a way, so that's one thing when you don't need to worry about, they're more of a bonus pet.

Rarities will never be taken away from the site, as it ruins the trading, and then things are only based upon the looks, species, and date. Taking away rarities would be taking away the trading mechanic in a way.

MMOs and other games you are talking about are much larger than Chickensmoothie (typically) and have more things for sale. Tess most likely doesn't want this game to be a 'pay to play', as in, pay to get all the pets, which would make it less inclusive.

The point of this site is yes, collecting pets, but it's also to make friends and get along with everyone. I've made friends that I've had for nearly three years now, and that's from the forums, which could even be considered bigger than the adopting the pets themselves. If you purely want to have a full collection, then expect it to take more than a small year.
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