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Ability To Disable Trade Suggestions

Postby Kiyomice » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:08 pm

I lose my mind every time I get a "suggestion" sent to me in a trade. Almost half of the people who have rules include "Do not send me suggestions" in their list.
Despite these rules, people continue to send others trades as suggestions, and this will never end with the current functions of this website.

With this in mind, it would be amazing if we could have a box that could be ticked that said:
"Don't allow players to send me suggestions."

It would go right along with the other tick boxes we already have in our trade settings. Then people would no longer be able to send you suggestions, and this persistent, very common problem could be solved.
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Re: Disable Ability For People To Send Trade Suggestions

Postby Stormowalf » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:18 pm

I agree with the tick box option/solution wholeheartedly, I think it's a great idea!
However as someone who isn't really the best at rarity or trading in general, suggesting a trade is my best option on knowing really what the other person prefers
I always make sure to take a look at the person's trade rules before though!
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Re: Disable Ability For People To Send Trade Suggestions

Postby Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β irisidium » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:46 pm

    I think I'd have to say no support - people are still going to "suggest" trades somewhere in some form or another (eg. sending trades with pets only on the other person's side asking "what for this?" or sending PMs). I don't think turning off suggestions would solve this and I think it could promote even more annoying behaviour.
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Re: Disable Ability For People To Send Trade Suggestions

Postby WarriorRazorclaw » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:47 pm

Instant support!
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Re: Disable Ability For People To Send Trade Suggestions

Postby Katiel » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:32 am

Sorry but no support. I often find people on the event swap threads who want to trade one new event pet for another and many times their event trades are locked for wishlist only. Generally what happens is they want a new pet that hasn’t been added to the archive yet, so I have to send a suggestion so they can add the wishlist locked pet to their side. A lot of the time these players have a rule to not send suggestions, but doing so makes it faster for them to add the pet than requesting they set up a trade via PM. I usually apologize for going against their rules but had to to swap event pets. Most are pretty cool about this since it benefits both of us.

I feel like I’m not quite adequately explaining this but it’s really early for me so there it is. :)
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Re: Disable Ability For People To Send Trade Suggestions

Postby alura, » Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:21 am

    definite support. the amount of suggestions i get
    even though my rules state very clearly i don't want
    them is so frustrating. this would save a lot of unneeded
    anger and stress!
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Postby Prince Keirden » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:15 am

    Imo, it wouldn't change much. You would still get users adding pets to your side and asking what you want for it, which I find are the most common type of suggestion as is. The only thing it would prevent are suggestions where people add a pet to their side and ask what you'll offer for it, but I've personally had very, very few people do this. It would likely also increase the amount of PMs you get from people asking about trades, which I think would be more irritating than just getting a suggestion and canceling it. No support, I don't think it would actually help.
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Re: Disable Ability For People To Send Trade Suggestions

Postby nickjr » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:38 am

I like the idea/spirit, but no support

As someone else said, this wouldn't really have much of an effect as people would just add placeholder pets on the side that they would have otherwise left empty. (Although I guess it could be effective if you lock all of your groups and you disable your PMs... but if you want that situation then you probably want to look at an entirely different suggestion)

And I find that suggestions see good use now in trades such as:
> auction bidding (sometimes people prefer to lock whatever is up for auction to avoid passerby who stumble upon "omg you have an unlocked sunjewel" and ignore or unthinkingly gloss over the pet/group name)
> quantity trades where whoever is initiating the trade doesn't want to sacrifice their wrist; concrete example: quantity token auctions where the auctioneer is not looking for quantity in return--it's pretty unusual for auctioneers who are not looking for quantity to tell bidders to post pet groups with their bids, so the initiator in this situation is definitely the bidder unless the bidder goes out of their way to ask the auctioneer to initiate the trade; currently, bidders don't need to do that--they can just send a suggestion instead
> some art and offsite trades, depending on the preferences of the people involved

Although the admins can reverse trades that were accepted when they were clearly not meant to be accepted according to trade messages, I feel like adding a "No suggestions" feature would be like opening floodgates for opportunistic people to take advantage of others' trust, and even though such people can be punished when there's clear evidence, prevention >>>>>>>> treatment
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Re: Disable Ability For People To Send Trade Suggestions

Postby Kiyomice » Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:29 am

I would like to mention again it is a tick box, meaning if people still want people to send them suggestions, they can. It is completely optional to have it disabled.

Some people have said it won't help very much because people can use other methods, but it still would reduce the amount, even if not by 100% - making it definitely worth while to implicate.

Every single disadvantage mentioned so far in this thread could be completely avoided if people simply left their trade settings as they are. You wouldn't have to change it. This is simply an option for those who want to change it.
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