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Re: Thoughts On Wolfspeak?

Postby kivr & fireflii » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:42 am

Pinewin Chan wrote:Wolfspeak is possibly the most immature and uncreative thing I've heard of, it really gets to me. I used to have a RP, and I actually made it against the rules to use it. (I really want to find that picture of wolf anatomy according to wolf-speakers XD it makes me laugh)


Are you talking about the wolfspeak monster?

Splenda wrote:Personally, I find it rather irksome.
I believe TOKI put it best when she said it was improper.


I think it's more than just improper though. It's a bit hard to put into words, but I feel it makes the writer seem... very naive. It's kind of like when someone tries too hard to do something, but because they're trying too hard, they fail.

The Egyptian Hyena wrote:My opinion on Wolfspeak? I personally could not understand it. And I thought Catspeak (Leaf-bare, Twoleg, etc.) was bad. But Wolfspeak is much worse, in my opinion.


I, peresonally, don't think "catspeak" really... hm, exists? That kind of speak was strictly created for Warriors (Erin Hunter). Because of that I think it may have travelled into the realm of role playing. However, "catspeak" makes more sense to me. Maybe it's just the fact they actually use correct terms, but just combined them. Leaf-bare makes sense for winter because trees lose their leaves. Things in wolfspeak like harks make no sense to me. Harks sounds like... barking... or something that has to do with the beach. XD Does that kind of make sense, what I'm trying to say?

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WarriorCatsrock wrote:I understand the alphess one, actually, it doesn't really bug me, as it is what it sounds like: a female version of "alpha"


So call it an alpha female...? That's what I use, since last I checked, 'alphess' wasn't actually a word. c:


Neither are many of the words in wolfspeak. ;3 Fae doesn't mean female, it's the Scottish word for "from" OR it can mean an abbreviation for "fuel air explosive". I think it's a lot like what Atwood pointed out. Words are used more for what they sound like. Things like auds sound like "auditory", so people may assume/think that it may be obvious/more creative/whoknowswhat to use something that sounds like it has to do with hearing just because it's different and "fancy". If that doesn't really make sense, sticking to fae.. fae sounds delicate so it's used for female a lot. I also believe people use fae because it seems like it would be short for faerie... (which I would like to point out, faerie is not a creature, it is actually the land created for fairies).
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Re: Thoughts On Wolfspeak?

Postby Mycorrhizae » Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:11 am

This sort of thing is why I sorta stopped trying to RP. There were other reasons, but this was just a major turn off. I tend to write rather simplistically, so adding in a bunch of random words and making things up just never went with me. Plus I don't like reading that. Fancy writing has it's place, but when you're trying to communicate with other people, it's not practical. And fancy writing should have words that make sense, even if they're not commonly used.
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Re: Thoughts On Wolfspeak?

Postby Something Diabolical » Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:55 pm

Oh dear, Wolfspeak. This is the first I've heard of it, but it already sounds terribly irritating...English already suffers enough abuse. And I thought chatspeak was annoying... Wolfspeak is worse (I didn't know that was possible).

Someone mentioned Catspeak? I've read some of the Warriors books and I don't have a problem with the Catspeak. It at least makes sense. Wolfspeak doesn't. In the RPing world, I see some people trying to talk with the Catspeak when they aren't even doing a Warrior RP. That could be annoying, but if you're in a Warrior RP and want it to be realistic then it would be ok for Catspeak to be used.

A part of this "Wolfspeak" that really ticks me off - none of the words are even words @_@ and if they are, they mean something completely different than what you're trying to make them represent. Eeeeh..
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Re: Thoughts On Wolfspeak?

Postby Goanna » Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:12 pm

Oh gee, don't get me started on it >->
I have played on a wolf RP site for something close to two years now, and nothing annoys me more than the constant wolfspeak prattle that goes on. The word "brute" for a male especially peeves me; even if the character is a gentle, lovely guy, he's called a brute by his poster. It doesn't make sense to me at all. I find it sounds like people are trying to hard. It certainly doesn't sound pretty or unique to me. I'm one to call a spade a spade xD In my writing, a tail is a tail, for example. I'll try and use creative adjectives for describing words, but not use the silly alternatives.

(btw, how would a wolf know what a 'banner', 'pillar', or 'flag' is anyway?)
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Re: Thoughts On Wolfspeak?

Postby kivr & fireflii » Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:32 pm

Goanna wrote:(btw, how would a wolf know what a 'banner', 'pillar', or 'flag' is anyway?)


Nor can canines see in color. ;D
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Re: Thoughts On Wolfspeak?

Postby Icesky » Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:48 pm

Fiery Gatoh wrote:I thought wolfspeak was awesome when I first started roleplaying.
Then I realised what an idiot I looked like. I still use brute on occasion, although only if I think it would actually suit the character ( "the brute glared at her)


This is how I felt about it. I used to use Catspeak in WarriorCat roleplays, but that was only when using "she-cat" "he-cat" etc, because in the world of Warriors that is how you are supposed to talk or it's just a cat roleplay. Also, cats don't know of the term "humans" so two-legs make sense. But again, it was based off a series of novels and if you joined a roleplay with WarriorCats you have probably read the books and understand all of the terms.
But when I started out many users used "Oculi" for eyes. This year I found out this is the word for eyes in Latin. I despise when people mix languages. Dead language or not, "Oculi" is not English, so you shouldn't use it. I don't mine "Orbs" once and a while because sayings eyes over and over and over is extremely annoying. But at least it's English.
I have a feeling if I joined most of these roleplays I would have no clue what does going on. Descriptive, but at least a little common are good. They seriously don't need to be huge. I hate reading books with extreme description because it's outright boring.

Oh, and canines can supposedly see red and blue, and mix other colors such as green and yellow, but they don't see black and white ;P
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Re: Thoughts On Wolfspeak?

Postby Mycorrhizae » Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:00 pm

As far as canines and color vision... I've heard they can see okay on the blue end of the spectrum but they have trouble differentiating colors on the red end. I don't know if it's to the point where red and orange would look the same to them or if all shades of red that humans see look the same to them or what. My dog has been very uncooperative in my efforts to find this out.
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Re: Thoughts On Wolfspeak?

Postby Goanna » Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:04 pm

Ahhh I love this post xD

The example of wolfspeak was just hilarious; I'd once encountered someone who posted EXACTLY like that. When I first started RPing, I thought she was the most beautifully poetic person (when I couldn’t understand half the
nonsense she wrote)… now it’s a major turnoff eheh. Haven’t seen her around for a long time though.
With those people I find myself skipping the whole post and going straight to any diagloge to respond to… no point reading drivel and fluff :c
 
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Re: Thoughts On Wolfspeak?

Postby Icesky » Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:05 pm

Loke wrote:As far as canines and color vision... I've heard they can see okay on the blue end of the spectrum but they have trouble differentiating colors on the red end. I don't know if it's to the point where red and orange would look the same to them or if all shades of red that humans see look the same to them or what. My dog has been very uncooperative in my efforts to find this out.


Yeah, something like that xD
Although I don't blame people for roleplaying with wolves that have human eyesight. Not only does it make things easier to write, but helps the reader picture what is happening around the character, not as the character [unless using 1st person, which I'm not a fan of when it comes to roleplays...]
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Re: Thoughts On Wolfspeak?

Postby kivr & fireflii » Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:20 pm

Sorry, my fault for bringing it up, but let's try not to get too off topic guys. ^^;;

And yes, I do the same thing. When I see wolfspeak (rarely to never anymore since I don't role play with those that use it), I just skip all the description and read the dialogue. XD
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