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Re: Atheists

Postby ~EverOutOfTouch~ » Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:42 pm

Just curious, why do you want a symbol? What's so special about it? I'm just saying that most symbols have meaning. Someone didn't just say, "Oh, that's cool!" I just don't understand why you would want a symbol. That's all. Just curious.
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Re: Atheists

Postby ~Kaleidoscope~ » Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:43 pm

Waverleigh wrote:Just curious, why do you want a symbol? What's so special about it? I'm just saying that most symbols have meaning. Someone didn't just say, "Oh, that's cool!" I just don't understand why you would want a symbol. That's all. Just curious.

Because, Atheists don't get much positive recognition from others. It would be nice to, I guess.
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Re: Atheists

Postby ~EverOutOfTouch~ » Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:47 pm

Oh, well I just never see theories that get symbols. All the symbol would do is be an abbreviation in a way for the word. That's just my opinion.
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Re: Atheists

Postby Atwood » Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:15 pm

I suppose a symbol would be a quick and easy way to identify your affiliations (and now I'm making it sound like a sports team or something XD). The A in the atom is the official logo of the American Atheists, but its not very popular due to the negative associations of atoms = atomic = nuclear = KABOOM, and the stylized A looks a bit too much like Star Trek done by an anarchist. :?

Ones I like:

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It's a stylized 'empty set', which is a mathematical term that accurately describes what most atheists think about the concept of gods. There's also just a plain black ring, which is based on the empty set as well and has the advantage of being easier to draw. :lol:

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The symbol of the OUT campaign founded by Richard Dawkins, and probably the closest to an actual symbol for atheism that isn't associated with a specific organization. It is however almost identical to the infamous 'Scarlet Letter' - a red 'A' that adulteresses used to have to sew on their clothing as a mark of shame - which isn't the association we really want.

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This one might be my favourite - the Invisible Pink Unicorn. A close relative of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, but undeniably more attractive.
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Re: Atheists

Postby Nyhne » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:42 pm

Waverleigh wrote:Well, the reasons others have symbols is because most of them are religious groups. Atheism is not a "religion." Also, they don't just represent a belief. Usually there's meaning behind the symbols, like the pentagram. Also, a lot of Christian symbols have to do with Jesus (a real person who died on a cross therefore the Cross necklaces, etc. have meaning behind them.) If you gave a symbol to atheism it just makes me think of a club or something.


That's more along my line of belief. :) 'Atheist' is more of a description, and not a religion. (to me)

Lynx7 wrote:Because, Atheists don't get much positive recognition from others. It would be nice to, I guess.


I think that's why they started to look for one...but I think that we don't really need a special symbol or aything.

Atwood wrote:The A in the atom is the official logo of the American Atheists, but its not very popular due to the negative associations of atoms = atomic = nuclear = KABOOM, and the stylized A looks a bit too much like Star Trek done by an anarchist. :?


That is the most popular one I've seen when browsing (mostly through dA stamps, lol), but there is no set symbol for general atheists around the world, if I'm correct. Lol, but I like that, 'atoms=atomic=nuclear=KABOOM' :lol:

It reminded me of one of those shiny emblems they put on the new sports cars, but I see what you mean! :lol:
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Re: Atheists

Postby Onishii » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:03 pm

I'm an atheist. Why?

Simply because of religion's turbulent history.

For instance: the Crusades. Was it really necessary to massacre hundreds of thousands of people?

Religions fight with each other, even though they're supposed to be peaceful. I hate those people who say, "Oh, my religion is better than yours simply because [insert deity here] told me so."

Also, many religions are against gay marriage and homosexuality. Remember when something like this happened? Let's take the Great Migration as an example.
"Oh, we persecuted the Puritans because they wanted to reform the Church."

How about the Quakers?
"Oh, we persecuted the Quakers because they wanted religious tolerance."

Guess what: homosexuality isn't wrong. So what if you love someone of the same gender? At least you've found someone you love, right? Isn't that enough?
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Re: Atheists

Postby ~Kaleidoscope~ » Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:30 am

Onishii wrote:I'm an atheist. Why?

Simply because of religion's turbulent history.

For instance: the Crusades. Was it really necessary to massacre hundreds of thousands of people?

Religions fight with each other, even though they're supposed to be peaceful. I hate those people who say, "Oh, my religion is better than yours simply because [insert deity here] told me so."

Also, many religions are against gay marriage and homosexuality. Remember when something like this happened? Let's take the Great Migration as an example.
"Oh, we persecuted the Puritans because they wanted to reform the Church."

How about the Quakers?
"Oh, we persecuted the Quakers because they wanted religious tolerance."

Guess what: homosexuality isn't wrong. So what if you love someone of the same gender? At least you've found someone you love, right? Isn't that enough?

I agree with all of that. Too much violence, even though a lot of religions say they like peace :roll: . I don't like hypocrytes, I'm not calling any religion hypocrytes, but sometimes...
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Re: Atheists

Postby ~EverOutOfTouch~ » Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:15 am

Onishii wrote:I'm an atheist. Why?

Simply because of religion's turbulent history.

For instance: the Crusades. Was it really necessary to massacre hundreds of thousands of people?

Religions fight with each other, even though they're supposed to be peaceful. I hate those people who say, "Oh, my religion is better than yours simply because [insert deity here] told me so."

Also, many religions are against gay marriage and homosexuality. Remember when something like this happened? Let's take the Great Migration as an example.
"Oh, we persecuted the Puritans because they wanted to reform the Church."

How about the Quakers?
"Oh, we persecuted the Quakers because they wanted religious tolerance."

Guess what: homosexuality isn't wrong. So what if you love someone of the same gender? At least you've found someone you love, right? Isn't that enough?


There's bad people in every type of religion. It's not the religion (in most cases) that is violent. It's the people. And I've never heard people say that before. I've heard people discussing why they believe their belief as opposed to another. But not something that unintelligent. :roll:
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Re: Atheists

Postby Atwood » Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:18 am

Careful there, guys - this seems to be a bit of a sore spot in any discussion on religion, so let's take care we don't step too hard on anyone's toes. ;)
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Re: Atheists

Postby ~EverOutOfTouch~ » Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:36 am

Oh, I didn't mean Onishii was unintelligent. I meant I have never heard a person unintelligent enough to say what Onishii hears people say, apparently. This quote:

Onishii wrote:I hate those people who say, "Oh, my religion is better than yours simply because [insert deity here] told me so."


I've never heard someone use that unintelligent argument. Just clarifying what I meant. :? lol.
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