SamhokuFoopets wrote:Redwall- Left Behind movies and books are what really started the popularity of the Rapture thing. And did you know the actual Rapture idea came from a 15-16 year old girl? (I cant back this up right now But I have read about it somewhere) So no My family does not believe in the Rapture.
Did you know that the rapture is actually in the Bible?
I quote from the site
Rapture Ready and the Bible.
The Apostle Paul gave a clear description of the rapture event in his letters to the Thessalonians and Corinthians.
"For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words." (1 Thess, 4:16-18).
"Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal [must] put on immortality" (1 Cor. 15:51-53).
The word "rapture" comes from Paul's "caught up" remark in verse 17. The words "caught up" are translated from the Greek word harpazo, which means "to carry off," "snatch up," or "grasp hastily." The translation from harpazo to "rapture" involved two steps: first, harpazo became the Latin word raptus; second, raptus became the English word "rapture."
Direct link to page talking of raptureI actually had never even heard that some 15-16 year old girl made the rapture up, till you just said it. But even if the rapture did just come from some girl, what is wrong with that? Many people have received knowledge from God that no one else has. I'm not saying it came from some girl, since it is in the Bible, even if you believe not so, which I respect, but there are many things that I believe that come from people who received the knowledge from God.
You must have an open mind if you are ever to learn the mysteries of God. Some things are not for us to know, but what He does allow us to know, I surely take hold of and treasure.
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Nimblestep wrote:About the Satan thing: Funny, we just talked about this in class. (Well, because I brought it up xD) My mom said that Satan, as an angel, cannot be changed. All fallen angels have made their choice, and they're stuck there. Just like Angels still serving God cannot become fallen like Satan. So, no, don't pray for Satan.
I don't think they're stuck there. I mean, if they had a choice before, don't they still have a choice? At least until they're permanently chained up in hell. I don't know, but I agree with others talking about how you should pray and love even your greatest enemy. Like Judas, hated so much for betraying Jesus, but I would still pray for him. There's actually a whole story behind Judas' betrayal, I read it in Glenda Green's
Love Without End. Very enlightening.
I happened to read the story
The Fall of Lucifer, from the series
The Chronicles of Brothers by Wendy Alec.
The Fall of Lucifer is about just that, the fall of Lucifer. Wendy Alec says that she received special permission from God to write the series and reveal some secrets of what actually happened, mixing truth in with a bit of fiction. It's up to the reader to believe whether it's truth or not.
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I'd also like to take the time to ask for a prayer request. For myself, sorry if that seems selfish, for my father, but most importantly for my grandmother, that she will recover and be able to live with us for a while longer. Thanks to anyone who is willing to send up a little prayer, all the other prayer requests are definitely in my heart.
