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[The Lost soul]

kk. Hey Sara.
Hm...close.. very close...

Yeah. I know sometimes you have to, but I look to that as something I never want to do personally. It would kill me. Metaphorically, of course.

Rehoming is not something bad for the kitten, but it is taxing on the heart... I'm not against it... I just don't like the idea of giving a cat I know well, away to someone, even if I know them well... It's my personal issue, not a viewpoint, just something I can't get over even with logic and reasoning. Some things you just don't like.

Hm... Sugar in heat. A female in heat can cause a hell of a ton of problems. Our kitten went into heat before she had her date to be fixed... not a single cat came knocking for her and the boys didn't even notice.... but I know how a female can get in heat. It's pretty bad.. and an unfixed tom around? That'll be a major mixup. Heat+young male= disaster

Males will get aggressive, rough, and territorial when a female starts sniffing fresh.

Unless you want this every time she goes into heat... you gotta get her fixed or there will be a huge mess on your hands... and it might get bloody if it gets bad enough....

[Wolfclaw12]

I had a cat named Sam. Actually, he belonged to my grandparents. But they live 15 seconds away from my house. I never really knew Sam until I read the warriors series. After I knew how to treat cats right and how to communicate with them :3 he would lick me and I would lick him back and e would purr (go ahead and call me gross) but sadly our time together was short. My grandpa found Sam as a stray. He was around 10 when he died. We where best buddies. But then my grandparents went away for a few days when he was sick. They where gonna switch his food but had to leave. So in the evening when my mom went to find after letting him outside an hour earlier, he wasn't there. We searched for hours. We realized that he had wanted to die in his favourite place. The woods that we live in. I miss Sam so much. Ill never forget him.

[.galaxy.]

I'm trying to convince my mom to get Sugar fixed, but she seems hell-bent on getting Nefarious fixed so he doesn't spray. But I agree, I think it'd be best to get Sugar fixed instead. Because if she's in heat, which she's showing signs of, and Nefarious is responding with his aggressive, territorial actions(Say, like taking on my dogs for no apparent reason, and pestering her at all times until she swats him around) it would explain a lot. And it could very well lead to him spraying to try and protect what's 'his.'

I'll try to get my mom to see my reasoning. I just hope it'll stop most of the probability of him spraying(It's only him and Sugar, cat wise in the house), and most of his aggressive behavior. And it very well may lighten Sugar's mood as well.

Besides, I don't think she could handle another litter. She is a very small cat, you see(She was a street rescue, abused and malnourished, so it's a given she's small. she might have been the runt as well) and most of her kittens were huge, like their many fathers. Nefarious is smaller then Sugar, and he's nearly 9 months old. But she was in a pitiful state while nursing. Her first litter was 3, and it was taxing. But her second litter of 4 nearly took her out. I could tell. She had this hollow look in her eye, and no matter how much I fed her, she was thin to the bone. Then when the kittens could eat normal food, the four of them bullied Sugar out of her food, and continued nursing.

I'm scared to think what would happen if she has another litter. And I don't want to think about how bad Nefarious might get when Sugar actually goes into heat.

[The Lost soul]

Sounds like that momma doesn't want another litter, let alone take another one.

Certain cats are fine to have kittens... but Sugar.... she doesn't sound like she can have 1 more kit. She can barely hold her own with a small litter? If she doesn't get fixed, she's not gonna be sugar much longer.... you're gonna end up burying her if you don't keep that poor baby from toms... certain cats aren't meant to have kittens... like a lot of cat breeds out there with clear issues in how they were bred

Either you get her fixed, or you'll be burying her. That ain't a kitting momma, that momma has gotta get a break.

[.galaxy.]

I know, Sugar tried so hard to actually run from all those toms((There were about four at once chasing her at one time.)). I'm not sure what breed she is, but yes, it's obvious she isn't a kitting mother. My mother has agreed to look into spay/neutering Sugar, and I'm so glad.

I don't know what I'd do if Sugar passed away. She's been my little baby(and sadly one of my only friends) for years. I just looked up the spay/neutering fee at my local animal shelter Homeward Bound, and it's about 30 dollars. I only have about 8-ish, so I'm going to try to get my mom to mirror my money. I really just want her to get spayed/neutered as quickly as possibly and hope that it solves the problems I've been having with my cats.

[Saracirce]

Like I said, no one likes having to rehome an animal and it's sad for everyone around. My brother and I were both very sad for a long time after rehoming Baby but we had to do it. She was bullying Boo out of his food, away from us and causing him to hide nearly constantly. She was just generally make his life hell. She had also started hissing and swatting at people for just walking by her. The only one of use she wasn't aggressive towards was the dog, who she flat out ignored. The deciding factor was that we were moving across the country on a near week long trip and could only fit one carrier in the car. Since Boo had no aggression issues at the time, he won out and Baby was rehomed to a friend. That cat I nursed back to health after we adopted her and gave her medicine three times a day while also juggling school. I'm the one who picked her out of the thirty-odd kittens at the shelter. I'm the one who fed them every day and played with them. I have a picture of her and Boo on the first Christmas with us right next to my desk. I have a picture of her hanging on my wall. Rehoming Baby was hard. I don't regret it though because I would've never grown as close to Boo as I am now with Baby around and Boo is a much happier cat without her.

[The Lost soul]

...I will definitely be praying, hoping, and etc for you.


The breed thing is like for breeds that clearly are not a stable animal which have many major issues... off-topic...

anyways.

Got a picture of them? :3

I like to see as many cats as I can... no excuse or begging, just do.
If you don't want to tell me, that's cool, but tell me so I know right away and don't bug you about it.

and yeah.. I can understand Sara. Though I cannot say I have done the same... but I can see the point... and probably after crying my face off, looking for every other solution and choice... I guess I'd come to that and do the same... except I'd be a bit more on the side of being a total crybaby. It's a thing with me. Threaten me? pfft. No worries. Even look at my animals cross eyed, and well... I get a bit flustered... become nonsensible and irrational. Something I admit is a problem, especially in a world where death is always going to come, and separation is rampant. Eh, but I guess it's what I get.

Just, Nepeta....do update us here... I'll be dying to hear what happens. Good luck!

[FuzzyThePunkCat]

Do you guys have any advice on how I can get Milo not to try to completely murder my dogs? I will provide some info on how he does this and how it started.
When we got Milo he was about 4 weeks old and who knows what other horrible things happened to him before we got him. When we got him we already had three other cats who all got along fine with dogs and liked them. We also had one dog at the time who was very calm and laid back and used to cats. His name was Bubba and he was an American Cocker Spaniel. Milo LOVED Bubba. He literally wouldn't even leave him alone, he always wanted to cuddle and play with him. Milo never had a problem with Bubba, but we kept the cats away from him during the time that he was sick and eventually had to be put to sleep to keep hem from stressing him out. At this point Milo was about 5 years old I think.
We got Misty two months later and Misty is a Labrador Retriever mix and she was 10 months old at the time. We didn't introduce her to the cats at first because she was sick from being spayed, but we introduced them about a week later one at a time and they all hated her including Milo mainly because she was so rambunctious and wanted to lay with them. Eventually she became to respect and kind of fear the cats, so the other cats got used to her. Milo did not. The first time he met Misty she just walked next to him and I think she tried to touch him with her paw and he flipped out and attacked her and caused a huge gash right down the center of her nose. We tried to introduce them multiple other times, but Milo would leap onto her and dig in his teeth and claws and refuse to let go. We had to keep him separated at all times from her by either shutting him in the basement or in my room.
When we got Marty who was an Amican Cocker Spaniel like Bubba (Marty was 9 months old at the time) we didn't really try to introduce Milo because we were already having to keep him separate. Martyn old try to wrestle the cats, but our other cats soon showed him that wasn't acceptable. We would open the basement door and if just Marty was there, Milo would slowly start to approach, but as soon as he saw Misty he would his and swat his paws and run.
When we got Kiba she was only two months old, she is a Papillon. We didn't even try to introduce her to Milo yet because when he attacks the dogs who is waaaaay more intense than you would expect. Most cats can be restrained pretty easily, but he is like a wild animal. He acts like an insane feral cat and he is stronger than my Cocker Spaniel. He is also pretty big, he is 11 lbs. He could kill Kiba very easily. He did eventually meet her on accident and actually didn't react and just tried to sniff her. I still can't trust him though because of how he just randomly lashes out. Kiba would try to play with him like she does with my other cat and I don't think he would take that well.
Finally we got Wolfgang, an American Akita. He was 8 weeks old when he first met Milo through a gate (Milo was now staying in our laundry room and is currently). Milo sniffed him and acted like he was ok. Then one day I was in th shower and Kib and Wolfgang were in the bathroom with me. My dad was sleeping and Misty and Marty were in his room. I came out of the bathroom and saw the laundry room door had been pried open by Milo. I put Wolf outside and Milo came downstairs and sniffed Kiba. He was acting calm, so I let Wolf inside while I called for my dad to come carry him back into the laundry room (I can't pick him up or he attacks me violently). Wolf walked up to Milo (Wolf was smaller than him at the time) and Milo sniffed him. Then Wolf went to walk past him towards the water bowl and Milo literally LIFTED HIM OF THE GROUND dug his nails and teeth into him and slammed him on the hardwood floors. Wolfgang screamed bloody murder for several minutes afterwards even though he wasn't hurt. He screamed so much that my dad thought Milo was holding onto him.
Now I have to put the dogs outside any time I go into or out of the laundry room because he will attack the gate and redirect the aggression onto me. I even have to block him away from the gate with Landry baskets just to leave the room because when I try to leave he will attack my legs violently and try to jump the gate and I can't even pick him up when he is doing this or he will go insane on me. I've never ever seen or met a cat who gets aggressive that intensely or who is that strong in my entire life. I've seen my cats fight each other and Katie would light into my dogs if they annoyed her, but never has it ever been that bad that I couldn't restrain them. Even when Sahara gets mad at me for picking her up I can restrain her from attacking me, but not Milo. He is 11 years old now and I just don't know what to do to get him to stop because I don't want him to have to be confined to one room, but I can't let him kill my dogs.

[The Lost soul]

Have you tried wrapping him in a thick blanket and holding him while the dogs sniff him? or maybe having your dad or mum do it?

You could have a make-shift muzzle, or custom muzzle made and you cat's claws trimmed for temporary training. This is for safety, and isn't permanent. Now.. after safety is ensure, have the dogs walk past him without looking at him. The dogs can't react to him.You should hold him during this in a blanket or towel that is thick. Make sure he cannot bite or scratch like this or you will be in trouble. You should probably leash Milo back(not too tight, you want some room so he can feel comfortable), just incase he escapes the towel and goes to bite. Harness for Milo's safety, collars are death traps and can cause serious harm.

If this doesn't help, consult an expert or Cardinal or Sara.

[FuzzyThePunkCat]

Have you tried wrapping him in a thick blanket and holding him while the dogs sniff him? or maybe having your dad or mum do it?

You could have a make-shift muzzle, or custom muzzle made and you cat's claws trimmed for temporary training. This is for safety, and isn't permanent. Now.. after safety is ensure, have the dogs walk past him without looking at him. The dogs can't react to him.You should hold him during this in a blanket or towel that is thick. Make sure he cannot bite or scratch like this or you will be in trouble. You should probably leash Milo back(not too tight, you want some room so he can feel comfortable), just incase he escapes the towel and goes to bite. Harness for Milo's safety, collars are death traps and can cause serious harm.

If this doesn't help, consult an expert or Cardinal or Sara.

I will see if I can try this. I'd have to get my dad to agree to hold onto him because I definitely can't restrain him. Thank you!