legumeZ wrote:I'm for animal rights, not animal welfare. I understand that a lot of people don't see animals as I do and opinions will always vary when it comes to ethics.. but imo people shouldn't be able to have opinions concerning the lives of others. It doesn't matter if you think you're racist, ableist or specieist. Nobody should get to dictate how others should live or how others should die. Sorry if my language is kinda strong. I'm just very passionate about this subject.
So yes, this means that I think horseback riding is wrong, keeping pets is wrong, eating animals is wrong and using service animals is wrong. I know a lot of people (even vegans) don't want to touch the service animal subject because it involves disabled people, but I will: if you use a service animal, you don't care about animals as individuals.
You might have the same type of condescending love someone may have for a pet, but by having a service animal you're saying "I don't care about your freedom, I don't care about your own desires, I only care about what you can do for me" because actions speak louder than words. You are castrating an animal, manipulating it into doing what you want it to do and otherwise taking advantage of it because you decided you were more important.
Why not have 'service children' while we're at it? Make them eunuchs, then 'train' them to do tasks for you. It's okay though. The child is less intelligent than you are and he doesn't understand what he's missing out on and can't comprehend that he's being manipulated and used. You are more important so it's OK and anyway, you give him chocolate for his efforts and take him swimming sometimes.
So, will you go into nursing/ aid training, to be a service human, so an animal won't have to? Sacrifice your life and future to help them, in such ways that the human you help will not feel like they are Infantalized? A person who needs to be taken care of like a child may feel hopeless, and being a good person means saying everyone has a right to pride, honor, self worth and independence. At the sacrifice of beasts. But this is a great thing about your way of thinking. To have do-gooders make it sound like a dog has more right to freedom and making children than the disabled. Then again I think Peter Singer ( or was it Falcone?) said something about aborting the fetuses of severely disabled children.
At least you are admitting it, and thank you for doing so, although there is always Poe's law. I try to tell people animal rights people like that exist, but they tell me nobody is like that, and I must of gotten those facts from Fox News or the likes.
I like it when do gooders have a bit of bad, but is is also sad in that you cannot save or protect them all, and shows that adding animal issues to intersectional feminism is laughabley futile.
People who do the good for the animals, people who say how to b good, doing everything for the animals first. It makes it look like I can be a terrible person and it is ok, because I can point others in their direction, find the worst of the best and the best of the worst. So what if I use ableist slurs as insults? Someone out there is fighting a good fight for those who need help more than someone who'll spazz out because the heard a cartoon character call another an "idiot".
All of this is fantastic in its twistedness, because any other groups get called names for wrong thinking. But when it is said " for the animals" it almost makes it ok.
When animal rights trump human rights. The utopia begins.