Dog Owner Chat v4

[.Middy.]

The pups and I aren't quite ready for Christmas to be over, so here is one more Christmas photo from my crazy pups!

I'm so excited for the new year, the pups are finally going back on raw! I found a local CO-OP that im going to be ordering meat through, they have fantastic prices on beef! Im also adding some more critters to the farm this year to help supplement the dogs and cats meat! I can't wait to get them off kibble!

[ShadowHunteress]

Does anyone know potential dog Breeds that would be good her guarding and or herding chickens with hurting, killing, etc them?

Any guardian breed would do, I know a few farms that have Pyrnees, and meerama(I can never remember how to spell it) and they do great with chickens, I also know a farm that has a border collie, although it has a bad habit of plucking the chickens.

[bloodredsheep]

Does anyone know potential dog Breeds that would be good her guarding and or herding chickens with hurting, killing, etc them?

no breed that does both unfortunately
Herding dogs and Livestock guardian dogs do different tasks. Herding dogs move the animals and LGDs live with and protect them they shouldn't want to move them.

Herding dogs If you just want one for just chickens I would go with a herding breed that more stares the animal down and not a cattle/heeler dog. Herding dogs have a high prey drive I wouldn't leave one alone with chickens.

While LGD breeds have a low prey drive and can protect chickens you will have to have enough space and time to train your dog. Chickens are the hardest animal for a LGD to bond to. Often times as youngsters they will play and can mistakenly kill a chicken or chickens if not properly trained how to behave around them. Around 2yrs they are reliable. You should make sure the parents of the dog or puppy are also good around poultry. Also do a lot of research before bring in a LGD these breeds love to bark thats one of their ways to keep predators away they can also wonder off if you don’t have good fencing. Thats a few of the cons.

[acura,]

Hug me!! ^^^
Heyyyy! This is not my dog, but is my friends! He (although) is pretty much my dog since I see him nearly everyday of my life!
(I am Siobhan's friend on here)
So, this is Frodo! He is an 8 year old Bitza, (Mixed breed) all we know is that he has some Cattle dog and Jack Russel in em'!
He's such a playful dog for an 8 year old goof. This guy (my friend says) was saved from being put down, he was a stray dog! Someone got him, but then sold him for $350 to my amazing friend! He knows one trick, sit; whenever you say "Walkies" this boy goes mad as ANYTHING; he runs straight to the door and goes nuts!
He sadly does not have too much 'spunk' (life) to go, so for the remaining, 4, 5 or 6 years left, he's gonna enjoy life!

My friend got a new kitten (Pablo) and two days ago when I went to her house, she locked Frodo outside the garden (He does not get along well with kittens or cats) and everytime he saw someone, he whined, it broke my HEART to see him out there!

He's getting along well with the kitten now! And his birthday is coming up next year! He is turning into a big fat 9 year old lover!!!

[acura,]

Does anyone know potential dog Breeds that would be good her guarding and or herding chickens with hurting, killing, etc them?

Possibly a Cattle dog, Border Collie, Australian Shepherd, Shetland Sheep dog (Sheltie, as in my sig) and etc. The dog breeds I have said are good herding dogs. For a protection dog? German Shepherd, Doberman Pinscher, Rottweiler, Staffordshire Bull Terrier and more.

Of course, you cannot expect these dog breeds to protect your family as soon as you get them, they require training to become a guard dog. And with the herding dogs, they don't need training, Australian Shepherds and Cattle dogs have herding instincts; sometimes they nip at little children's heels since they have the herding instincts.

[Angelus Gaston]

Does anyone know potential dog Breeds that would be good her guarding and or herding chickens with hurting, killing, etc them?

Possibly a Cattle dog, Border Collie, Australian Shepherd, Shetland Sheep dog (Sheltie, as in my sig) and etc. The dog breeds I have said are good herding dogs. For a protection dog? German Shepherd, Doberman Pinscher, Rottweiler, Staffordshire Bull Terrier and more.

Of course, you cannot expect these dog breeds to protect your family as soon as you get them, they require training to become a guard dog. And with the herding dogs, they don't need training, Australian Shepherds and Cattle dogs have herding instincts; sometimes they nip at little children's heels since they have the herding instincts.

Wouldn't recommend staffies as a protection dog breed standard there friendly with everyone including intruders.

Herding breeds do require training unless you get an adult who is already trained, the herding instinct maybe natural but it needs training in so they listen to commands given and dont kill the live stock ( which I've seen in untrained dogs ).

I would go with a BC given the chance and correct training they will herd anything and do protect the property ( if that's what your after ) there also easy to train.

I will say one thing though I have a friend who uses a GSD for herding her live stock its nice to see them go back to there original roots and in Germany there still used for live stock by some people.

[acura,]

Does anyone know potential dog Breeds that would be good her guarding and or herding chickens with hurting, killing, etc them?

Possibly a Cattle dog, Border Collie, Australian Shepherd, Shetland Sheep dog (Sheltie, as in my sig) and etc. The dog breeds I have said are good herding dogs. For a protection dog? German Shepherd, Doberman Pinscher, Rottweiler, Staffordshire Bull Terrier and more.

Of course, you cannot expect these dog breeds to protect your family as soon as you get them, they require training to become a guard dog. And with the herding dogs, they don't need training, Australian Shepherds and Cattle dogs have herding instincts; sometimes they nip at little children's heels since they have the herding instincts.

Wouldn't recommend staffies as a protection dog breed standard there friendly with everyone including intruders.

Herding breeds do require training unless you get an adult who is already trained, the herding instinct maybe natural but it needs training in so they listen to commands given and dont kill the live stock ( which I've seen in untrained dogs ).

I would go with a BC given the chance and correct training they will herd anything and do protect the property ( if that's what your after ) there also easy to train.

I will say one thing though I have a friend who uses a GSD for herding her live stock its nice to see them go back to there original roots and in Germany there still used for live stock by some people.

They can be a protection dog, if you have seen the dog 'Hulk' they can be trained to be a protection dog if trained correctly.

[Angelus Gaston]

Hulk is a cross breed not a pure breed and he isn't a staffie.

Any dog can be trained in Personal Protection as its just a game in the dogs mind with breeds like the GSD ( which I've owned, trained, showed and bred ) there bred for the protective nature ( dont trust no one ) so its born, were as a staffie by breed standard should be friendly with everyone. Yes it can be trained but it wouldn't be a first choose for protection.

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They can be a protection dog, if you have seen the dog 'Hulk' they can be trained to be a protection dog if trained correctly.

I don't think the kind of dog Hulk is for protection will live with chickens and protect them, as he is trained to protect owners from thugs and other robbers, like if you are at the ATM or live in a high crime area.

I've seen the video clips

[Luzien]

Hulk is a cross breed not a pure breed and he isn't a staffie.

Any dog can be trained in Personal Protection as its just a game in the dogs mind with breeds like the GSD ( which I've owned, trained, showed and bred ) there bred for the protective nature ( dont trust no one ) so its born, were as a staffie by breed standard should be friendly with everyone. Yes it can be trained but it wouldn't be a first choose for protection.

any dog..... really.....
i so much want to see a toy breed(like a bichon,Chihuahueñ o), dachshound, or blood hound in protection work...biting the shoe or leg after going over the jumps out of breath....sure there may be one or the other....but really can you see a dog big as your hand defending you from a danerous Person, when you throw it the Person in the face maybe or the trip over it.....

and a game....not really to all...for some its no game at all but they and there herd-family they have to protect and you or the animal attacking-coming to Close....but sure when you see this as game...
at the one place i once learned more about working dogs, they breed sniffing dogs, personal working protection dogs, some other and also large livestock protection dogs to guard places (those dogs....they dont work for fun or as game or play, and there handler find it also not fun....they guard the area where they are placed with anything they have...not like some protection dogs who bite the fake arm and run away with it happily....they take the fake arm and then take you down when you dont back down asap and go back slowly and careful.... )
no ....im sorry...not every dog!!! there are more companion dog breeds, or herding dog breeds than there are herd protection or guard dogs or dogs breed as protection dogs....and the like.... a lot of companion would not defend there owner or cant do it, but thats alright and there breed....but there are some that can ....and some dogs cant or should ever be trained for protection


but the Person did want to know about protection or Herding do that can guard no personal but for there chicks (when i did read it right)!

Perfect Polish hat geschrieben:
Does anyone know potential dog Breeds that would be good her guarding and or herding chickens with hurting, killing, etc them?

i maybe would go with a Herding dog that can work Independent, and guard too
like maybe:
- Welsh Sheepdog
(usually of loose-eyed action, not fixing the stock with their gaze like the strong-eyed Border Collie. They are able to work independently without necessarily being under direct human control. Welsh sheepdogs are most often used for herding sheep, but also readily work cattle, goats, and even horses and pigs. Traditionally they were often used as droving dogs to take cattle and sheep to markets locally or elsewhere in Britain.)

- English Shepherd
(highly intelligent, all-around farm dog, being used as a herding dog, livestock guardian, farm watch dog, hunting dog, vermin eradicator and a child's companion. English Shepherds were not bred to be specialized to work one type of livestock as some recent herding dogs have been. English Shepherds were bred to do many tasks on the small diversified farms of the 17th through early 20th centuries that had various types of livestock including cattle, sheep, pigs, goats, and fowl. )

- Briard
( large herding dog,they also where used in the French army as a sentry, messenger, and to search for wounded soldiers, bred to herd as well as guard flocks of sheep. And they were often left to their own devices in order to accomplish their assigned tasks. This makes the Briard different from those breeds that only guard and those that only herd. The breeds that just herd are often smaller in size, agile, and swift of foot. Those breeds that just guard are usually larger and heavier. Briards were used in all types of herding situations, having the ability to learn many commands and fulfill the jobs expected of them. The Briard was most commonly used as a farm dog in the more crowded farming valleys of France, where row crops were grown. Sheep were allowed to graze the grass strips between crops and Briards were responsible for keeping the sheep moving along these strips, and preventing the sheep from eating the crops. The Briard moved the sheep daily from the farm to the graze areas and back again at night. At the farm, the Briard was the shepherd's partner, helping with livestock chores. The Briard was also used to move large flocks of sheep in areas of France that had wide grazing pastures and mountain pastures in summer,At night, they were alert and vigilant watchdogs, protecting the shepherds and flock from wolves and thieves )

and when you have lots of danger in your area, then add one or two livestock Guardian to you herd guard-herding dogs
like:
- Polish Tatra Sheepdog
(Their instinct, through hundreds of years of breeding, is to protect livestock, though they easily adopt a family as a flock. They are a good companion dog as well as a protection dog. They are not an attack dog, but rather move threats away through intimidation. They have a loud bark. it was a fantastic sheepdog. This success at herding sheep was mainly due to their high intelligence. When predators were around the sheep, the Polish Tatra Sheepdog would gather up the sheep and stand by them instead of trying to attack the predator, which would leave the sheep open for other attacks. This demonstrates their intelligence. Their white coat also made them easily distinguishable from a bear or wolves, which was very helpful for workers, they have a very loud bark and will bark at anything that is suspicious....so bether you have no neighbor,)
- Kuvasz
(They are intensely loyal and patient pets who appreciate attention but may also be somewhat aloof or independent, as well as thoroughly cunning, particularly with strangers.there extrem independence[citation needed] and protectiveness[citation needed] make obedience training and socialization absolute necessities, careful gentle Training, never hard Hands or words, a dog knowing Person, training can become a difficult task, wearing on the patience of even experienced owners, but they have to respect a person as a trusted leader before they'll obey commands. They're also not usually interested in meaningless activity, such as doing entertaining tricks. As a result, they are not recommended for novices and those who do not have time to train and socialize them properly. An adolescent Kuvasz should be able to learn basic obedience commands and consistently respond to them; however the instinctive need to investigate strangers and protect its owner may cause the Kuvasz to act independently when off leash and ignore the calls of a handler. Interactions with other dogs, especially first meetings, should be managed carefully. One of the tasks of a livestock guardian is to kill wolves, coyotes, and other predators, and this instinct remains intact in the modern dog. Handlers should be alert to signs of tension, and intervene before a dangerous situation develops. However, a well socialized, well trained Kuvasz will usually ignore, play with, or go exploring with other dogs once a successful introduction has been made. Finally, a potential owner should refrain from purchasing a Kuvasz if barking will be a problem at the home)

but those last two dogs really only get to your Herding dogs when you really need them and have the space, sturdy closed fence, and no problem wih very loud barking, Independent character who is often not so much for playing or always the same traing, or a dog that follows your every comand, and such...