Fish lovers!

[~AlphaWolf~]

I know that there also called siamese algae eaters though, theve stopped now though and there black stripes are back to fully black.

[Concept]

I know that there also called siamese algae eaters though, theve stopped now though and there black stripes are back to fully black.

ah okay then! we have something there!

here's another quote from one of my favorite fish sites for info on things.

It is repeatedly confused with similar-looking fish from other genera such as Garra cambodgiensis (itself often referred to incorrectly as G. taeniata), Crossocheilus species or even Gyrinocheilus aymonieri and many of the images seen on the internet or in books are mislabelled. Much of the confusion has arisen through the use of trade names such as 'false flying fox' or 'Siamese flying fox' that have been assigned to these species in order to boost sales and they are actually quite easy to distinguish from one another. When compared with the other species Epalzeorhynchos kalopterus exhibits several unique traits but we find the simplest way to identify it is by the characteristic white-edged, red and black coloured fins along with the presence of two pairs of barbels.

That means your siamese flying fox/algea eaters aren't actually flying foxes. You probably have a Cambodian Longsucker. http://www.seriouslyfish.com/profile.ph ... s+&id=1339

These ones ARE peaceful with moments of aggression, so your fish were probably just having a spat! My zebra danios go through dominance spats all the time, especially the two larger females.

[~AlphaWolf~]

Im not sure,they are more white,and dont have that second sorta stripe,they are only about and inch and a half long and they are really thin.

[Concept]

Im not sure,they are more white,and dont have that second sorta stripe,they are only about and inch and a half long and they are really thin.

*taps chin*

http://www.seriouslyfish.com/profile.ph ... eri&id=789 Is it this one?

I hope it's not that one XDD Apparently they get to be a reaaaal problem as they get bigger.

[~AlphaWolf~]

Nope not them either *frowns*
I will have to take a pic tomorrow and post it here.

[Concept]

Nope not them either *frowns*
I will have to take a pic tomorrow and post it here.

I'm actually kind of glad on that one! You've really got me curious here to see what kind of fish you have, or what subspecies it might actually be XD Once we find that out I bet the fighting behavior will be easy as pie to explain. I know my fish fight more because I don't have enough of them yet *pulls a face* tomorrow I'm getting a few more so they have a better pecking order.

Thanks for being willing to post a picture!

[~AlphaWolf~]

Lol thats ok,ill try get my video camera working tomorrow

[Cardinal]

So, I might be getting a betta soon for my birthday, and I have two questions about it.

1. Do you have to cycle the tank before you put the fish in? And can someone explain to me how you do that? I've done plenty of research but I can't find anything that's helpful.

2. Do you perfer male bettas or female bettas?

1 ] you cycle your tank 24 hours before the fish is placed into it.
Basically you just set everything up in the tank, add the water, and if you have a filter, let it filter over the period of time. If you'll be using tap water you might also want to get something to help the water be more safe for your new fish. During the 24 hours it allows the water to become room temperature and the water is cleaner, and ready to house the fish.

2 ] Males are the pretty ones. Unfortunately they have to be kept by themselves. Females can be kept in groups of three or more, but their color is a little blander. I personally prefer females, I have a ten gallon with 4 of them, with a few other fish. They all get along great.

Hope this helped a little c:

Thats not cycling.

1.Cycling refers to the nitrogen cycle, one of the most important aspects of fish keeping that will make or break a tank. It -can- take up to two months and is much better done without fish. The nitrogen cycle is the build up of ammonia in a tank, ammonia being highly toxic as it burns the mouth/gills/body/fins of the fish leading to a shortened lifespan if not death immediately, covered in to nitrites. Nitrites are still toxic, they will smother your fish. After a while a new bacteria grows that converts the nitrites into nitrates. Nitrates are only bad in excess, this is why you do weekly water changes instead of topping off the tank with water when it gets low from evaporation.

So.. Ammonia is around.. Ammonia gets converted into nitrites by a bacteria. Nitrites hang around then are converted into nitrates. Water change. Once your tank is cycled you should never have ammonia or nitrites unless theres a problem. The beneficial bacteria responsible live in your filter media, substrate, and any other rough surface.

You can fishless cycle, recommended, by either allowing fish food to rot in the tank, or going to a hardware store and purchasing a bottle of -pure- ammonia. Most people add in 5ml at a time to jump start things. Next you need a water test kit. Grab a liquid one, they are so much more accurate and cheaper in the long run. The Master Freshwater Liquid Test Kit by API runs roughly 30 dollars, but lasts forever. It tests for pH both low and high, Ammonia, Nitrites, and Nitrates. Once ammonia in the tank is 0ppm, nitrites are 0ppm, and you have nitrates showing p.. You're all cycled. Do a water change before adding fish to get your nitrates below 20 where it needs to be.

2. Males or females.. I have two males I got last night. ( >_> ... ) and then three females in my 30 gallons. Females, keeping more than one, is a risky business. They still are betta fish and they still can be highly aggressive with one another. I had 4 and then randomly I walk into my room to find my prettiest girl on the bottom of the tank with no fins, dead. :l The original trio apparently was none to pleased to have her in the tank, even though they were fine for a few days.

[Dakotak]

So, I might be getting a betta soon for my birthday, and I have two questions about it.

1. Do you have to cycle the tank before you put the fish in? And can someone explain to me how you do that? I've done plenty of research but I can't find anything that's helpful.

2. Do you perfer male bettas or female bettas?

1 ] you cycle your tank 24 hours before the fish is placed into it.
Basically you just set everything up in the tank, add the water, and if you have a filter, let it filter over the period of time. If you'll be using tap water you might also want to get something to help the water be more safe for your new fish. During the 24 hours it allows the water to become room temperature and the water is cleaner, and ready to house the fish.

2 ] Males are the pretty ones. Unfortunately they have to be kept by themselves. Females can be kept in groups of three or more, but their color is a little blander. I personally prefer females, I have a ten gallon with 4 of them, with a few other fish. They all get along great.

Hope this helped a little c:

Thats not cycling.

1.Cycling refers to the nitrogen cycle, one of the most important aspects of fish keeping that will make or break a tank. It -can- take up to two months and is much better done without fish. The nitrogen cycle is the build up of ammonia in a tank, ammonia being highly toxic as it burns the mouth/gills/body/fins of the fish leading to a shortened lifespan if not death immediately, covered in to nitrites. Nitrites are still toxic, they will smother your fish. After a while a new bacteria grows that converts the nitrites into nitrates. Nitrates are only bad in excess, this is why you do weekly water changes instead of topping off the tank with water when it gets low from evaporation.

So.. Ammonia is around.. Ammonia gets converted into nitrites by a bacteria. Nitrites hang around then are converted into nitrates. Water change. Once your tank is cycled you should never have ammonia or nitrites unless theres a problem. The beneficial bacteria responsible live in your filter media, substrate, and any other rough surface.

You can fishless cycle, recommended, by either allowing fish food to rot in the tank, or going to a hardware store and purchasing a bottle of -pure- ammonia. Most people add in 5ml at a time to jump start things. Next you need a water test kit. Grab a liquid one, they are so much more accurate and cheaper in the long run. The Master Freshwater Liquid Test Kit by API runs roughly 30 dollars, but lasts forever. It tests for pH both low and high, Ammonia, Nitrites, and Nitrates. Once ammonia in the tank is 0ppm, nitrites are 0ppm, and you have nitrates showing p.. You're all cycled. Do a water change before adding fish to get your nitrates below 20 where it needs to be.

2. Males or females.. I have two males I got last night. ( >_> ... ) and then three females in my 30 gallons. Females, keeping more than one, is a risky business. They still are betta fish and they still can be highly aggressive with one another. I had 4 and then randomly I walk into my room to find my prettiest girl on the bottom of the tank with no fins, dead. :l The original trio apparently was none to pleased to have her in the tank, even though they were fine for a few days.

Cardinal you have the best explanation I have ever seen on cycling. Also here is a link to cycling fishless and cycling with fish. http://www.kokosgoldfish.com/cycle.html
Fishless is MUCH better. I had to cycle my 110 gallon tank with my goldfish after I had a cycle bump in my 40 gallon. If you do decide to do a cycle with fish don't use a betta. Get a really hardy fish. The time it takes to cycle just depends on the tank. My 40 gallon took a week and my 110 took almost half a month or so until I had to add my fish. All in all I agree with cardinal. If you still need help on cycling we can help you though it. Just post here and we can answer your questions.

[cesarzrk]

i love my 2 clombian sharks and my red tail shark