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Re: Dawg Owner Chat v3 ~Open!~

Postby gingertail98 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:37 am

Claw. wrote:
Anyway I pretty much become Lexi's trainer, since no one else will and let's just say she's not the brightest button in the box. I've trained her to sit, to come and I'm training her to lie down. But we have two other problems with her, she barks and chases trucks, whether it be the post van, an ordinary van, a lorry if she got the chance, or a jeep with a back she will chase it and she almost got herself killed twice, by almost going under the wheel while they were moving, and being so little the driver has no idea. Also she barks at the window by jumping up on 'the dog chair' and that's just annoying, and today while Millie was sitting on 'the dog chair' nursing her paw, Lexi pretty much jumped on top of her and there was some growling from both of them. Any idea's on what to do?


For the car issue, I'd start desensitizing her if you can, but you may need the guidance of a professional trainer- while I am one, it is best for you to find someone in person to help you. However if you ever get video footage of her behaviour and want to PM it to me I would be more than happy to give some pointers. Basically I'd take her to a parking lot where people aren't going to be coming and going. Somewhere dead with a few new cars/trucks parked. I'd do /tons/ of focus and obedience work with Lexi around the cars, heeling past them, sit stays, ect. I'd also work on a very strong "leave it" command, starting with just teaching her to leave a piece of food in your hand. Place the food in your palm and hold it out to her and say "leave it" in a calm, but firm, level voice. If she goes for the treat just close your hand into a fist. When she backs up to be like "what the heck, what gives?" open your hand again and say "leave it" again. When she finally leaves the treat mark the behaviour and reward. Eventually when she gets good at it, don't mark the behaviour or reward until she looks at you and offers her focus instead of staring at the treat. You can eventually work to having her leave toys, a ball that's been thrown, people, other dogs, food dropped on the ground, and yes, even cars. When walking her somewhere there will be cars you know she's going to chase I would have a back clipping harness and a martingale collar on her and have the leash clipped to both as a safety measure so that if she slips out of one, she isn't loose to go bolting out into the road.

As for the thing with the chair it seems like they were both wanting on it and potentially resource guarding it from one another. This is a good place to start http://www.patriciamcconnell.com/theoth ... prevention

catcher. wrote:I should of explained my problem better, it's not like she hears something and immediately runs off, if the training session gets too long she decides she doesn't want to learn anymore and will just ignore me. Tally doesn't even get distracted by something she'll just sit there and do nothing. Because of this our training sessions are just 3-5 mins long, but I'd like to make them 5-10 eventually.
However, I noticed while training 'around' she didn't start to show signs that she was losing interest when she usually does*, so it makes me wonder if she was just bored of the same tricks :/

Zuke Training treats at the moment, I used to use cheese which she did well with, but then she started to become fat so I stopped. Plus I now realize it probably wasn't really healthy to give her (cause of the dairy)

*When I see the first sign of her losing interest that's when I finish the training session, so usually our training sessions are 3-5 mins, though our last one was around 7 ish mins


If your using the same treats and rewarding frequently, it's completely possible she may be getting bored of the treats. When teaching classes since we have to keep the dog engaged for an hour, I always ask the students bring 3 kinds of treats mixed in a bag, that way the reward is different every time. The dog doesn't know what it will get. I really like the treat brand "My Mighty Wolf" and freeze dried beef liver or bits of chicken are always a hit in the reactive dog class. Or tuna treats (which are easily made by mixing flour, eggs and a tin or two of tuna together then baking for like 15 minutes in the over I'd look into mixing up her treats and keeping your training sessions 5 minutes or under, be super engaging and if you're teaching something boring to her don't dwell on it too long and add in tricks you know she likes every once in a while, use a happy upbeat voice, if she likes toys, stop and have a play break. The more fun you make training, the more she'll look forward to it and you'll be able to extend your sessions. Charlie gets 2 15 minute sessions of training pretty much every day- and he loves it because of a lot of the above things I've done. Hope that makes sense and helps a bit :)
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Re: Dawg Owner Chat v3 ~Open!~

Postby Shirosashi » Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:18 am

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Sorry to hear about Epic! I love reading up on her, even though I don't reply. Hope the new method words! :D
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Today was awful.
On the way home from a training class with Dakota this morning, we stopped at a book fair and my dad told me the news about Thunder.
Late last night, about 10:30, Thunder was still outside on his leash. The woods around where we live are riddled with coyotes, one got through the fence to raid the treats stashed for the horses in the shed. Thunder saw it and tried fighting it away, the leash wasn't long enough but he made it really angry. The thing fought back and Thunder lost. The vet is keeping him overnight until tomorrow, they're going to give him euthanasia because the wounds are too deep and there's too many. I'm never going to be able to spend winter break with him, my baby's gone and I can't do anything about it.
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Re: Dawg Owner Chat v3 ~Open!~

Postby Sabatea » Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:34 am

@Shirosashi

I'm kind of confused on how a border collie could be killed by a coyote? I understand that a coyote could kill a dog, but border collies aren't small. The pictures you've used (Not even going to mention where they came from, or that your latest picture doesn't even match as the same dog as your puppy one...) show a decent-sized dog. I doubt that this dog could be killed by a coyote who wasn't even looking for a fight in the first place. Wouldn't the coyote ignore the dog if the dog is on a leash and just go to the treats for the horses? Doesn't seem right to me. Plus, you've mentioned before that he's good at tracking and chasing, so he should've been able to fend off a coyote just fine.

I apologize if you're upset, but I just fail to see how this is true. Could you possibly elaborate, please?
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Re: Dawg Owner Chat v3 ~Open!~

Postby In The Darke » Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:59 am

So, just had a small issue, and I'm not sure if it may cause future problems with my dog.

When I was walking back from the shops about 5 mins from my house with 2 of my neighbours and my Saluki x greyhound, a lassie came out to her garden and asked if we'd seen a rottie about anywhere. We said no, then I asked if it liked or was friendly with other dogs, cause Brooks just wants to play with everything so I knew that he'd most likely be find. She said her dog is scared of other dogs because it was attacked as a pup. Told her I'd take my dog in and take a wee wonder. My 2 neighbours, my dog and I were walking up the lane to get home, and I spot the rottie just ahead of us. I get one of my neighbours to take brooks to walk the opposite way to make sure he wouldn't get hurt. I go up to the dog, talk nicely and it lets me get a hold of it's collar. Before the lassie can start walking away with brooks, this dog pulls me forward and tries to grab my dogs stomach, it was going off the nut, snaring, growling, completely vicious, and not in a scared way. Brooks bites its ear and it lets go, and as the lassie starts to drag brooks away, the dog turned and growled at me. My dog then yanks himself out his lead and starts stalking around this rottie, that must have been at least 6 stone, while I'm holding it back. My dog wouldn't break his attention with this dog. The other lassie I was with had to run up to the persons home to get someone to grab their dog. Brooks wouldn't back off at all, I'm not sure if it was because the dog tried to attack him, since he was fine to back off before it turned on me, or because the rottie tried to go for me... Eventually the guy comes, and I distract brooks and get him far enough away to be able to calm him and get his collar on him.
The guy had a bloody cheek to tell me to control my damn dog... It's also illegal in this country to have a rottie in a public area without a lead and muzzle on it, as they're on the dangerous dog act.

My issue is, my dog was never too fond of male dogs bigger than him, but he would be fine once they're friendly to him. But after this, I'm not sure how he'll act around any other rottie, or even other bigger dog breeds.

I already checked my dog, he has no injury, just drool on him.

He has such a vicious reaction tho. I know he's very protective, but the most he's ever done is warning growls, he's never went for anything in his life. My cat bit right through his ear a few weeks back and he ran away from her crying. I never seen his protectiveness as a problem since he was never outright aggressive, only ever stiffed up and gave a low growl. If whatever he was protecting against didn't back off, he'd pull in the opposite direction, he's never shown any signs of wanting involved in confrontation.

Sorry if this doesn't make much sense, but it literally happened about half an hour ago and I'm scatterbrained and nackered...
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Re: Dawg Owner Chat v3 ~Open!~

Postby Shirosashi » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:29 am

Sabatea wrote:@Shirosashi

I'm kind of confused on how a border collie could be killed by a coyote? I understand that a coyote could kill a dog, but border collies aren't small. The pictures you've used (Not even going to mention where they came from, or that your latest picture doesn't even match as the same dog as your puppy one...) show a decent-sized dog. I doubt that this dog could be killed by a coyote who wasn't even looking for a fight in the first place. Wouldn't the coyote ignore the dog if the dog is on a leash and just go to the treats for the horses? Doesn't seem right to me. Plus, you've mentioned before that he's good at tracking and chasing, so he should've been able to fend off a coyote just fine.

I apologize if you're upset, but I just fail to see how this is true. Could you possibly elaborate, please?

He's almost a year and a half and he was better at getting something much smaller. The spot he was tied up at was in the way of the shed so it had to find a way to get past him.
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Re: Dawg Owner Chat v3 ~Open!~

Postby orpheus. » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:33 am

    Shirosashi, you've already been found out by a bunch of people that you're lying, there really isn't any need to continue it. We're all pretty used to people "owning" fake dogs on here, you can still post without owning one, heck - I used to post all the time before I got Lyra.
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Re: Dawg Owner Chat v3 ~Open!~

Postby Day Of Silence » Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:18 am

@In The Darke

My dog has fear reactivity. She's scared of larger dogs, but no one else understands it to be fear because she will lunge and bark (and has added some snaps).
Fear is not just shown as a dog tucking tail and running away. So if you grabbed the Rottie's collar (tension on a collar can create stress), and your dog was around, it could easily have stressed and scared him/her, resulting in an aggressive reaction.
And some dogs, even if they've never previously shown signs of aggression, can show them given the right (or wrong?) circumstances.

I wouldn't worry about Brooks. Some dogs just don't like certain dogs. I have a neighbor who says his dog (the local watchdog) hates boxers because of this one incident. But the dog never took what happened with that one boxer as something that every boxer would do.
I'm sure it's fine, and it's nice to know that you two are okay.
(More experienced dog peoples, please correct me if I be typing wrong info.)

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Re: Dawg Owner Chat v3 ~Open!~

Postby Marley.&.Me » Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:22 pm

    managed to snap new pictures of princes tonight <3

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Re: Dawg Owner Chat v3 ~Open!~

Postby Fascai » Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:21 pm

Day Of Silence wrote:@fascai
Congrats!
Opie's so cute! So you guys are partnered with two business now correct? So exciting!


spring. wrote:@fascia -- Opie is just too cute for words, I can't even. It's no wonder he got a job as a model, he's just too perfect! When Dezi was a puppy we entered her in a cutest puppy contest for funsies and she actually came in second! The first place dog was a bulldog puppy, if I remember correctly... That was about a year ago, I shouldn't be having that much trouble remembering ahaha.


        thank you guys! & yes, this makes our second partnership. c: it's exciting. we're super excited and I can't wait. one is a bow company and the other is a leash/collar company. our products are in the mail and headed towards us, hopefully they'll be here soon so that I can upload some photos! I asked the lady to surprise me on the pattern, so it'll be cool!
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Re: Dawg Owner Chat v3 ~Open!~

Postby Saracirce » Sat Aug 22, 2015 3:10 am

I'm bored and I don't think we've done something like this in a while sooo

Name your top three dream breeds and the reasons why. Doesn't count as a dream breed if you already own one or owned one in the past. Has to be recognized as a breed by a reputable kennel club (like the AKC or UKC but not the Continental KC)

1. Boxer - what's better then a devoted, athletic companion with a sense of humor, up-for-anything attitude and who will protect you until the end of time? Not to mention huge snuggle bugs! (I'm not counting Clemmy since she was never actually mine.)

2. Chihuahua - long coat and with points preferred. Fiery, confident personality in a teeny tiny body! Velcroed to their masters and athletic if you let them be.

3. Silken Windhound - Versatile companion dog in the sleek yet fluffy body of a teeny Borzoi. So many drool worthy dogs in this breed, both looks and performance wise. I do wish more breeders would move away from Kristull (puppy mill-like breeder that established the breed) but maybe that will come with time.
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