Dog Owner Chat v2

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Re: Dog Owner Chat v2

Postby BlingBling » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:47 am

Throwing my two cents in on this Husky thing... I have NEVER, EVER seen a GOOD breeder add in 7 years of combing Craigslist. If you want a dog just no... Go actually work to find a good breeder, don't slouch off and go for the first one you see. Just you wait some unknowing person is going to get this more than likely ringworm infested (I say that from the face) puppy here: http://lexington.craigslist.org/pet/4683553828.html because it's cute and they don't want to work to find a responsible breeder, either that or the cost is 'too high'. It sickens me when people get dogs like that and are screwed over when suddenly they either get extremely ill or even just drop dead and the breeder will do NOTHING because it's not in the tiny contract she made. A truly good breeder will have lifetime support, health checks, will always be there to answer questions, and will take the dog back if s/he can't live with you anymore. That is a true breeder that should be supported.
Ask these things and get back to us on it, I'm curious to see what this person will say:
What is a good food to give to my future dog?
How should I train the puppy?
What health issues does the breed have?
And other things like that (Sara, Jazi, Card? Got anything to add?) that a proper breeder will give great answers for but a byb will flunk

Dawn Fox wrote:Someone stole Yappy because I let him outside for one of the first times (to make him a bit more social)
Also Fern was rehomed because she was digging in our yard and tearing up our flowers. So we got her a home just about a mile away, I can walk to see her

Have you let the cops in on it?

Edit: http://lexington.craigslist.org/pet/4683613971.html
If that's a chi I'm the King of New York!
http://lexington.craigslist.org/pet/4683055461.html
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Re: Dog Owner Chat v2

Postby bat-husband » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:49 am

Yep, they think someone stole him and moved away because he disappeared last week and yesterday there was a person on this plane with a fluffy black chihuahua. Wherever he is I hope he is safe and the people understand he will bite at them.
Anyways, I'm still wondering about the best dog breeds
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Re: Dog Owner Chat v2

Postby Jazi » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:51 am

Here are the red flags I see:

Puppies come with 60 days of PET HEALTH INSURANCE, a 3 month HEALTH GUARANTEE from any genetic illnesses, weekly PICTURES and UPDATES, so you can watch your puppy grow. They also come with their first TOY BOX which includes a whole puppy starter kit, including a BIRTH CERTIFICATE with their first paw print, the time and date they were born and their 4 week old picture, X-LARGE PUPPY PADS, first TOY, baby BLANKET, doggie HARNESS, first BAG OF PUPPY FOOD, and a RECORD OF SHOTS AND DEWORMING, they are also KEPT INDOORS the entire 6 weeks to prevent from parvo, distemper, fleas, ticks, and worms. They also COME POTTY trained, CRATE TRAINED, and on a SLEEPING AND EATING SCHEDULE before going home, and during their 1st 6 weeks they will be LEARNING THE SIT COMMAND. Not to mention mommy, daddy and puppies ARE ON VITAMINS to ensure optimal health. The parents hold a Champion Bloodline through AKC!


>3 month health guarantee
That's garbage. Pure and simple garbage. If a puppy shows signs of a genetic illness within the first 3 months that puppy is pretty much doomed from the get go and has been showing for a LOT longer than that. Genetic illnesses kill as the dog matures. Years 5+ are when they show up, not before 6 months old. Often times with garbage guarantees like this, the breeder will not honor them or will say that YOU caused the issue anyway.

>Puppy pads
I have not seen ANY large breed breeder that's anywhere decent starting their puppies on pads. Maaaaybe with smaller dogs, but large breed breeders that are actually decent start their puppies actually outside.

>Kept indoors the whole time they're with the breeder.
This guarantees they have had absolutely no socialization. Early socialization is CRITICAL and it's the breeder's job not just to take them outside but to take them to safe places to explore the world and experience new things while out of the breeder's house. Puppies that don't get this often turn into completely out of control dogs due to being overstimulated in new and strange environments. This is a VERY BAD thing to do. (Also puppies are BORN WITH WORMS from their mothers, so outside or no the puppies absolutely do need to be wormed)

>6 weeks
Are these puppies under 8 weeks old? Another VERY BAD thing to do is to separate puppies from their mother and littermates prior to 8 weeks (and honestly as someone who got their pup at 14 weeks, I much prefer the 12 week limit some countries have).

>Vitamins
Okay so there's a difference between supplemental vitamins for specific active dog lifestyles and overloading your dog with pills which a LOT of bad breeders do. If they're not showing or titling, why are their dogs on vitamins? A balanced diet means they should need no vitamins. If the breeder is not feeding a good food and needs the vitamins in order to make their dogs healthy, it means they don't know enough about dogs to actually be responsible breeders.

>"Champion Bloodline"
I'll let you in on a secret. Every. Single. Dog. Has a champion somewhere in their pedigree. That is NOT something that makes dogs breeding worthy. If their bloodlines are so great, why aren't the dogs themselves champions? You can easily breed two champions together and make a pet quality puppy. Breed enough of these pet quality puppies together and you don't get champion material anymore. Again, pure and simple garbage.

>"Pick of the Litter"
Good breeders pick the puppy for you. Why? Because the people who have spent the last 8+ weeks with the puppies know them a lot better than you who will see them for a few hours at the most. You might pick the most outgoing puppy, but that doesn't mean that your puppy is the "best" or that it "picked you".

The best way to get a happy and healthy puppy is to buy from a breeder that's doing everything right, not from someone who just slapped two dogs together. This means the breeder is either showing or working their dogs to prove that they are stable enough to be pets, health testing to prove that they are healthy. Creed is my first dog from a good breeder, and let me tell you that the differences are ASTOUNDING between him and dogs who are not well bred. He is the picture of happy and healthy, no issues with his temperament, with his health, with his behavior, any of that. His parents are titled, health tested, and actively working in their fields. I couldn't be happier with my decision to go with a good breeder.
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Re: Dog Owner Chat v2

Postby Jazi » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:53 am

Dawn Fox wrote:Yep, they think someone stole him and moved away because he disappeared last week and yesterday there was a person on this plane with a fluffy black chihuahua. Wherever he is I hope he is safe and the people understand he will bite at them.
Anyways, I'm still wondering about the best dog breeds

TBH, to someone who doesn't seem to care that their dog got stolen, and who, instead of even contacting a trainer for their misbehaving dog, just gives away their dog on a whim, the only breed I can suggest is a stuffed animal. That will neither get stolen nor will it dig up the flowers.

Dogs are work. If you're not willing to put in the work, don't get a dog.
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Re: Dog Owner Chat v2

Postby bat-husband » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:58 am

Jazi wrote:
Dawn Fox wrote:Yep, they think someone stole him and moved away because he disappeared last week and yesterday there was a person on this plane with a fluffy black chihuahua. Wherever he is I hope he is safe and the people understand he will bite at them.
Anyways, I'm still wondering about the best dog breeds

TBH, to someone who doesn't seem to care that their dog got stolen, and who, instead of even contacting a trainer for their misbehaving dog, just gives away their dog on a whim, the only breed I can suggest is a stuffed animal. That will neither get stolen nor will it dig up the flowers.

Dogs are work. If you're not willing to put in the work, don't get a dog.

I have dogs, and the new owner wanted her so badly
And I do care about Yappy, I'm still searching for him. But if he was on that plane, I can't get him. And besides, I can visit Fern everyday, and she loves her new home. Also, she IS trained. She just loves to dig, it's a dog thing. She can dig on her new home forever and ever, and is even happier. Also, Yappy is being searched for. He might be getting a ride to London right now! But I don't know, if he is going to London, then I hope he enjoys his visit. Even if I still had Yappy and Fern, I would still be getting another dog.
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Re: Dog Owner Chat v2

Postby Dappled Sapphire » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:59 am

Sorry Dawn Fox
but from the start I didn't believe you actually owned any of these dogs
And now even more so
That story is way too far fetched
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Re: Dog Owner Chat v2

Postby Temper » Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:03 am

Dawn Fox wrote:
Jazi wrote:
Dawn Fox wrote:Yep, they think someone stole him and moved away because he disappeared last week and yesterday there was a person on this plane with a fluffy black chihuahua. Wherever he is I hope he is safe and the people understand he will bite at them.
Anyways, I'm still wondering about the best dog breeds

TBH, to someone who doesn't seem to care that their dog got stolen, and who, instead of even contacting a trainer for their misbehaving dog, just gives away their dog on a whim, the only breed I can suggest is a stuffed animal. That will neither get stolen nor will it dig up the flowers.

Dogs are work. If you're not willing to put in the work, don't get a dog.

I have dogs, and the new owner wanted her so badly
And I do care about Yappy, I'm still searching for him. But if he was on that plane, I can't get him. And besides, I can visit Fern everyday, and she loves her new home. Also, she IS trained. She just loves to dig, it's a dog thing. She can dig on her new home forever and ever, and is even happier. Also, Yappy is being searched for. He might be getting a ride to London right now! But I don't know, if he is going to London, then I hope he enjoys his visit. Even if I still had Yappy and Fern, I would still be getting another dog.

Most dogs like to dig, and most dogs have behavior problems when you first get them. I reconsider getting another dog if something simple like that was an issue for your family.


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Re: Dog Owner Chat v2

Postby Saracirce » Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:03 am

Digging is often a symptom of boredom. Especially if it's constant, uncontrollable digging. If it wasn't a symptom of boredom (which it likely was like most destructive behavior is), you could have easily given her an outlet by providing a sand box (literally all it has to be is a kiddie pool filled with play sand) and encouraging her to dig in there.

Just rehoming a dog without trying to fix a problem no matter how far away or how often you can see them is NOT fair to the dog.
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Re: Dog Owner Chat v2

Postby bat-husband » Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:06 am

Believe it or not, but they are real. What makes you think that they are fake?
Anyways I'm going to go take a nap ^_^
Then possibly walk my dogs, to some are "make believe" dogs, I guess I can see that.
But it doesn't matter, maybe they might find Yappy, if they don't... Poor little Yappy! But knowing him he will find someone's house to hide under, and then I will get information
Time to nap, walk the dogs, then scan the internet for any signs of Yappy
Bye everyone!
(Edit:)
Also, Fern wasn't bored. She might have been jealous if possible, but she can still get visits. I heard she is living my friends house, and her yard
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Re: Dog Owner Chat v2

Postby .muse. » Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:07 am

Dawn Fox wrote:
Jazi wrote:
Dawn Fox wrote:Yep, they think someone stole him and moved away because he disappeared last week and yesterday there was a person on this plane with a fluffy black chihuahua. Wherever he is I hope he is safe and the people understand he will bite at them.
Anyways, I'm still wondering about the best dog breeds

TBH, to someone who doesn't seem to care that their dog got stolen, and who, instead of even contacting a trainer for their misbehaving dog, just gives away their dog on a whim, the only breed I can suggest is a stuffed animal. That will neither get stolen nor will it dig up the flowers.

Dogs are work. If you're not willing to put in the work, don't get a dog.

I have dogs, and the new owner wanted her so badly
And I do care about Yappy, I'm still searching for him. But if he was on that plane, I can't get him. And besides, I can visit Fern everyday, and she loves her new home. Also, she IS trained. She just loves to dig, it's a dog thing. She can dig on her new home forever and ever, and is even happier. Also, Yappy is being searched for. He might be getting a ride to London right now! But I don't know, if he is going to London, then I hope he enjoys his visit. Even if I still had Yappy and Fern, I would still be getting another dog.


Uhm, yeah it's a dog thing, but it's also a trainable thing...

Link developed a MASSIVE digging issue when our yard was being worked on and was mostly dirt on one side. He didn't dig a whole lot prior to this, aside from the occasional figuring out that's a sprinkler head sticking out of the lawn randomly. But all that exposed dirt must have been too tempting.

Instead of sending him back to the breeder or rehoming him, we worked with him. He now knows he's allowed to dig in the tortoise pen but no where else in the yard. And occasionally he goes over into the tortoise pen and starts tearing it up, which is fine by me because he leaves the rest of the yard alone (Dexter tears it up with his random digging too, so I'm not concerned with trying to completely squash Links digging when part of the yard is for it anyways). It wasn't a whole lot of work to redirect his bad habit to a safe area for him to still enjoy digging.

Dog thing or not, it's trainable.
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