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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby Brynmala » Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:27 am

@ shiver and Hime - thanks both, that's really helpful information. Ollie is 3/4 Hanovarian, so interesting correlation. I need to talk to his owner (technically he's on loan but I doubt he's ever going home) and see what she thinks but my feeling is that it would be better to start him on a low dose of whatever the tablet is, as per vet's recommendation. He does shed slowly, here we are in June and he still has a fair amount of winter coat left, but I gather he's always been like that. He could do with a bit more of a spark too, but that might have more to do with the arthritis - he's on daily bute for that. Our grazing is very poor and we are feeding hay all year round so I've no fears about laminitis.

I took him out this morning by himself for the first time in a long time (I'm not bold enough to try a ride and lead with both of them). I feel a bit stupid having to sneak out of the yard so that Proph doesn't notice his mate is gone! We were out for an hour and a half, which is longer than I'd intended, but Ol wasn't moving very fast, and I give him the benefit of the doubt. We did also have the farrier yesterday, so his hips are probably a bit stiff. It will be interesting to see how long the same ride takes with Proph tomorrow...

I'm sorry Ty had a run in with a thoughtless driver, I hope it doesn't have a lasting effect - there's far to many of them around. We have no option but to ride on the roads to get to the bridleways and the stupidity of some drivers on country lanes has to be seen to be believed, even without adding horses into the mixture. They are even more stupid around a driven horse, because obviously having a cart behind them makes a horse suddenly not subject to all the stupidities their brains can conjour up!
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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby .:shiver:. » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:09 am

@Brynmala that's a crazy coincidence lol the medication can work really well in my experience so long as his owner is good with it, obviously it's down to the advice of the vets etc! The shedding is an absolute nightmare, I totally feel your pain. My boy gets clipped like three times a year because he's so fluffy - he's a 17hh Hanovarian that looks like an overgrown shetland pony in the winter haha. With the medication it gets better and i always find that the clipping helps it grow back thinner and less of it.

As far as the arthritis goes, have you tried those magnetic bands? I know it's super tricky to manage and im sure the bute does a good job but my boy is also pretty damn stiff and achy (not diagnosed arthritis but i wouldn't be surprised) and we use those magnetic fetlock bands on him. they don't work for every horse (didn't work at all for my other gelding who tore his suspensory) but they work great for him and seem to help him with his stiffness. He's an old dressage horse and he deffo takes a good warm up to get into his stride, and before we bought them he could feel really uneven when I rode - not lame, just not quite sound. It'd disappear as he worked, but with the magnetic bands he's a lot lot better and we hardly ever get those slightly uneven steps. they can be pretty expensive but we've had ours for like a year and they're still absolutely perfect, and the resale value is decent i think, you could even look at getting a pair second hand or borrowing from someone at your yard? i probs sound like im sponsored lol im not but it might make a difference?
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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby Luzien » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:31 am

@ shiver (and Brynmaia too)
this bands, where do you get this? back on track?

and do you use a exercise sheet when you ride, to keep back warm? warm up and stretching bevor you go into saddle ?

and do you use herbs-bark- and different oil and such? special mineral feed for cushing-ems-laminitis horses?

there are some interesting sites where one can learn a lot about feeding, natural meds, or perfect warm up and training, slow feeder for hay, what to use for clipping the fur and such^^
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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby .:shiver:. » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:57 am

@Luzien these are the bands we use

i use an exercise sheet on cold winter days but he sweats up very quickly (due to the cushings i believe) so try not to use it that much as we don't really get particularly cold here in England. as for warm up i try to do as much as possible on a nice long rein to give him a stretch, but he's absolutely terrible at stretching - god knows how a dressage horse could do what he did without being taught to stretch... he's almost 18 and still doesn't understand it when i ask him to stretch... he's very spooky so i give him as much rein as possible but i am cautious as don't want him to do anything silly...

he gets fed chaff and this to help him put weight on without the high sugar and starch, and when it comes to hay he gets a slow feed net. we turn out because he'd go crazy in a stable 24/7 but the grass isn't particularly lush and we monitor him for laminitis - he's never actually been prone, its just something we watch out for.

our clippers have been an absolute lifesaver at keeping him cool and comfortable, we finally bought our own not long ago and they were well worth the investment!

here's him pre and post his most recent clip in april :)
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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby Brynmala » Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:02 am

Got to laugh - the resemblance between your boy and Ollie is uncanny (still, a chestnut horse is chestnut horse...) Do you know the breeding of yours? They sound similar characters too - Ol can be very spooky, he's definitely better to ride than handle from the ground. He did dressage in his younger life though just at low levels - jumping was never his thing, he needs to risk assess every jump before he'll consider it!
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I took this this morning, just after we'd got back in so he hadn't been properly groomed yet. He's looking old, and lost a lot of muscle mass across his back over winter. You can see the fluff still on him over his barrel and quarters.

He grows a very thick winter coat, always has apparently, so I don't use a quartersheet in winter because he gets too hot (and as you say it just isn't that cold in the UK). I don't clip him because he really isn't in enough work to warrant it, I am just very careful that he is properly dried off and kept warm. Also he'd have a blue fit if I tried to clip him!

He's on safe and sound and D&H pasture cubes, with added milk thistle just in case it will help his liver against the bute, and a general vitamin supplement that has some MSM etc in it. I haven't tried magnets, but I will do some research :)
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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby .:shiver:. » Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:28 am

ahh your boy is so sweet :D
yeah I do know his breeding actually xD it's here he was owned by someone else on our yard who's uncle had a big dressage yard, training and breeding and all sorts but something happened and he ended up giving him to his neice, who owned him for a while, but then when she finished uni her dad said he wouldn't pay for his keep any more and as she didn't really ride him that much and the sharer of my other boy had been riding him loads for him so she offered him to us, horse, tack, rugs everything for a pound. we couldn't say no really, he was just so sweet, and the money was only really so we could draw up an official bill of sale haha i wish i had the money to buy a horse with breeding like his, we just got lucky tbh

charlie's dumb and spooky but god does he love to jump. dressage was his thing, but he used to hunt quite a bit with his old owner and he can refuse and be stupid sometimes but he really loves jumping! he gets so excited by it, if we're in the school doing a grid session with a couple of others he'll literally stand and shake his head impatiently whilst he waits until it's his turn xD he's so silly haha

he's in a rubbish state though, he's got no muscle on his bum at all and he needs work on his topline :( with my exams sneaking up on me i've just not had the time to ride him regularly enough to bring his condition back (can't wait until the summer) had the most amazing ride tonight though, dad was watching me so pointed out my weak spots and we really worked on them, and he felt so good when we finally got working together and he did the most beautiful trot and half pass :D i'm so proud of him, especially the last time i rode him he ended up tripping up over his own feet and we both went down... one of the nastiest falls i've had in a while ngl
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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby Brynmala » Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:09 am

That's a nice pedigree, and he sounds like a lovely horse! My OH's Arab came to us in a similar way, and like you no way could we afford a horse like him. I hope you are ok after your fall?

Ol's pedigree is at http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/apollo207 - he was bred in Denmark and brought over here as a youngster. His breeder obviously didn't feel the need to keep the Hanovarian naming convention! He came to me on loan from an old friend who had had him since he was 5, but she managed to mess her life up quite spectacularly and couldn't keep him. Ol is a bit of a sensitive soul, very headshy (I can brush his ears now, but it has taken 7 years), very ticklish, and got spatial awareness issues, especially around gates (twice he's scraped me off on a gate by shooting through when it wasn't open enough. I don't do gates now!), but he is a real sweetie really. We just go out and have fun, no schooling (no school!), just slopping around the lanes and bridlepaths, which suits me now. I was never a fan of warmbloods before he came to me, but I'd certainly have another one now.

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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby Hime » Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:24 am

One youngter free lunged and groomed, check. One itchy mare washed, check. One idiot ridden, check. Good 7 hours spend. lol Tý got the idiot title, because he had to get his head under the tied rope and then panicked due that (stupid me had left the rope just tad too long, as I had forgotten his stupid habbit of messing with his head). Luckily the rope got off his poll somehow but he still kept pulling back and the freaking quick release knot would not open. :roll: Like that was literally the situation why every single horse person is taught how to tie one and why they are used, but nooo when the horse pulls apparently hard enough it won't release. Luckily he did calm down and realised there was nothing to panic over about. He didn't seem to be too traumatised as when I put some pressure on his halter afterwards he didn't react badly. Fingers crossed he won't get any sore or iffy things in his poll either...
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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby .:shiver:. » Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:29 am

@brynmala the two of us were both fine, thank goodness! Bruised and battered but more shaken than anything else - having a little stumble then ending up with the horse buckling under me was super scary and I was winded and worried about him more than anything, I saw him go down :/ but we were both completely fine haha

oh, that's nice pedigree :) i wish we could do that, we've not got great off road hacking and he's silly on the roads on his own (he has a habit of spinning when he's spooked) and can't always go out with someone else... we're lucky enough to have a school (newly resurfaced, i won the award for the first fall xD) and 7 furlong gallops so we can do a bit of quiet hacking there (and silly galloping too lol) warmbloods are great, even if they can be silly haha
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Saddlebred Horses and Saddleseat

Postby etriers » Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:34 am

Yesterday and the day before I went to a saddlebred horse show in Nebraska and was genuinely impressed. While of course some riders will be harsh with their equipment and riding, others were so soft and had great control of their amazing horse. In a spark of obsession I found a saddlebred barn near my school and will probably pay them a visit when fall semester starts back up, turning into lessons if it works out. I haven't ridden at a barn in years, I miss it, it's just expensive!
Do any of y'all ride saddleseat/work with saddlebreds? How do you like it?
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