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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby Anaphea » Wed Jun 08, 2016 6:13 am

선장 재휸 wrote:For those of you who board, but actually do the work to care for your horse, how many times a week/a day do you go to the barn, and for how long? I'm hoping to get a horse next year, but with college and work I'm not sure I'll have time.


If you won't be able to look after your horse due to timing restraints, you could do part livery/board. So you cut the stable care between yourself and the stable owners? That way you have a schedule worked out with the stable owners and can spend the needed time with the horse, whilst still being able to go to college and work on time.

As for how long...
You'd probably have to spend 1/2 hours in the morning, feeding, grooming, doing any stable chores and possibly turning it out. Then you might be able to spend the late afternoon/evening with the horse, riding and doing stable chores. But I don't know how much time you spend at work/college, so you'd have to tailor the times depending on this, and whether your horse lives out or in, how much work etc.

I don't know much about college (not there yet!) but if it's sort of like normal school, then weekdays you'd probably have to spend shorter time with the horse - of which the people at the stables could spend more time looking after your horse. Then weekends could be spent riding and caring for your future horse a lot more. But, again, I don't know how college works. I need to find out :lol:

Overall, I'd say you need to (at least) spend six hours with your horse, looking after and riding him/her. Give or take a bit. Of course, you could do part boarding, which would mean your horse will still benefit from human contact. But if you're going for the DIY option, then you'd probably have to cut the times to fit your work and college schedule.
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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby lilac sky » Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:08 am

We had to sell my horse awhile back, maybe 2 months ago, and I've been depressed ever since. He was my best friend. How do you guys deal with losing a horse?
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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby Mr.Milo » Wed Jun 08, 2016 4:30 pm

@Copper the horse: Thank you for your input! I took your advice and did some ground poles, he did not want to got through them at first but eventually I was able to encourage him to go through them. He's able to go over one pole but this time I made him go one after the other.

@Nocte Luna: Thanks for all the great advice! Unfortunately I am not able to get a trainer to the barn at the moment, however, I will be watching the owner this weekend to see how she rides him since he is being really stubborn. Today I tried cross rails, ground poles, a pole that was on the ground but between the sides of the jumps and then a really low jump that was probably barely a foot. We were actually able to get over the cross rails twice! I had to get like two strides in front of them then ask him for the trot but we ended on that. Next time I am thinking of taking the jumps into an enclose arena because he is not so good in the open which is where the jumps are located, they're not heavy but its a pain to move back and forth.

@Galloping Hoofs: I'm sorry you had to sell your horse, I've never had to deal with losing a horse but I've had friends whose horses have passed away. I would say that on the bright side at least you know he is alive somewhere and happy is the best way to think about it, if that helps!
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Today riding went okay. Cracker was being a real teenager today and was not listening to me whats so ever. The place where we ride is kind of in the open, its hard to explain but its basically bordered by trees but there are paths between them. When we are riding with my right foot on the inside he is fine but in the other direction he won't listen to my cues and starts trying to go into the woods. My foot isn't on him and neither am i pulling since you have to keep a fairly loose rein on him. I pull him away but once i start trying to go one direction he will go full circle and start it up again. Plus I know I end up getting frustrated which makes it worse. I ended up taking him in the round pen and we got some progress and we did good with the trots but only because there was no where to go. Afterwards we were actually able to jump over cross rails before doing a cool down walk on this mini trail. Anyone know how I may be able to get his attention?
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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby Luzien » Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:16 pm

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선장 재휸 wrote:For those of you who board, but actually do the work to care for your horse, how many times a week/a day do you go to the barn, and for how long? I'm hoping to get a horse next year, but with college and work I'm not sure I'll have time.


each day you should be out when possible....or when you need to feed and clean on your own....if not your horse gets sick and dies...because it needs clean stall and enough hay over the day:!:
if not.... you need to put the horse-pony in a barn where they feed-clean-bring out the horse to the pasture, and maybe even clean your horse and tack it up for you....
or atleast where they feed your horse and you do cleaning and next feeding wihen you are out of Collage or work for the day....some do feeding and cleaning but no turnout,....other turnout the horse on the pasture over the day with grass or hay and you do cleaning and the afternoon feed when you go ...or they do feeding and cleaning....


For me....:
i do part of the work, as i share the work with my father (as my parents take care of the horse of my sister, and my girl) we do it like this: around 15 (or less) days each month each Person....but i still can go out when i like to work with her or walk her...or the other mare.
they share a stall with a small paddock and go out each morning till late afternoon on a small pasture over the winter-spring....so it takes around 1/2-1hour to bring out hay to the pasture and put it in the hay feeder, then groom the horses...some more some less, bing them out to the pasture, clean the stall, bring hay in for the night in the stall slow hay feeder, so that they only need to walk in from the pasture to there stall when you open the gate for the walk, and we dont need extra work or get dirty again...thats good when coming from work, or running fast to the barn between work or school to feed them....it works well.
But when i work them when im out, then i go 1/4 hour each horse in the roudpen...or with my Girl out for an walk on the trail for 1h or so.. so i can be out for 1/2 to 2h.



its different for most people, .....
- some feed there horse three times and clean the stall two times when they are staying in there stall all day....
- other feed two times and clean one-two times each day....
- some may clean once a day fully and only feed once a day or week when they have a small or large hay feeder
- and some People share the work, then you need to go out every other day, or one does the work one day in the morning and the other day in the afternoon....
or you let other People do all your work and pay for it, and only go out to work your horse or ride it.

The best way is to look around, ask ...what Barns are neer your home-collage...that you can go to in 5-30mins walk-drive....how do they Keep there horse, what do they offer...like you are on your own, you share work with other horse owner, or the stall does all or half the work...what can you pay, and is a vet-farrier you trust near the stable....

hope that did help at all, or you did undestand what i did try to say^^
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@ Galopping Hoofs:
its not easy, but you will go over it slowly.
maybe visit the horse, or talk with the new owner how your horse is, let them send you Pictures of the horse...when asked nicely they maybe do it^^
you also could go help in a horse rescue, or a barn...maybe for helping there you even could ride.
good luck and heads up :)

@ Soul of winter: nice that you had fun at the Show and did well, but that are a lot of ribbons for one mare in one small halter class, wow...or did you do more than one class with her?

@ Hime
thats a nice idea with the Mares, hope heta and Little Feykja will find the right horses to play or eat with :D
so you dont have any other foal this year :?:

thats so typical foal to Play with water.... :lol: but when it gets more hot then she also will try a small drink now and then^^

yes that could be also a Problem, then i hope the new place where the bucket is now keeps the bucket save from the little Miss Destroyer^^

so the little girl got to test the electric fence, nice that she did stay away after two or so hits^^
and that she Shows nice trot and tolt

trouble with pooping...poor thing...how is hetas milk and the Girls drinking? great that it did happen bevor the night,Did you take a look at the droppings to see if it was the hay, or not drinking enough for all the running?

Hope that they can go out on the pasture soon ;)
The weather has cooled down too, so Feykja over heating is no longer big concern. Though the nights are now pretty chilly, so not sure if they are okay nights out.

yes thats crazy with the weather..crazy hot some time over the day, like you did say chilly at night...but dont worry, the little girl seems to be strong, it should not hurt a foal to stay out in this season, and when they have a shelter to go in when it rains, all should go well. :)
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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby Albino_ » Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:44 am

@Luzien
I did halter showing, pole bending, barrel racing, jumping and a ming julip and all these where were I led her and they where all times accepted the halter class
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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby Anaphea » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:20 am

Mr.Milo wrote:@Copper the horse: Thank you for your input! I took your advice and did some ground poles, he did not want to got through them at first but eventually I was able to encourage him to go through them. He's able to go over one pole but this time I made him go one after the other.

@Nocte Luna: Thanks for all the great advice! Unfortunately I am not able to get a trainer to the barn at the moment, however, I will be watching the owner this weekend to see how she rides him since he is being really stubborn. Today I tried cross rails, ground poles, a pole that was on the ground but between the sides of the jumps and then a really low jump that was probably barely a foot. We were actually able to get over the cross rails twice! I had to get like two strides in front of them then ask him for the trot but we ended on that. Next time I am thinking of taking the jumps into an enclose arena because he is not so good in the open which is where the jumps are located, they're not heavy but its a pain to move back and forth.

@Galloping Hoofs: I'm sorry you had to sell your horse, I've never had to deal with losing a horse but I've had friends whose horses have passed away. I would say that on the bright side at least you know he is alive somewhere and happy is the best way to think about it, if that helps!
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Today riding went okay. Cracker was being a real teenager today and was not listening to me whats so ever. The place where we ride is kind of in the open, its hard to explain but its basically bordered by trees but there are paths between them. When we are riding with my right foot on the inside he is fine but in the other direction he won't listen to my cues and starts trying to go into the woods. My foot isn't on him and neither am i pulling since you have to keep a fairly loose rein on him. I pull him away but once i start trying to go one direction he will go full circle and start it up again. Plus I know I end up getting frustrated which makes it worse. I ended up taking him in the round pen and we got some progress and we did good with the trots but only because there was no where to go. Afterwards we were actually able to jump over cross rails before doing a cool down walk on this mini trail. Anyone know how I may be able to get his attention?


For your question, could you perhaps use a whip? Whips are good tools to get a horse listening. You don't have to hit him or anything, just a gentle tap to wake him up. When he misbehaves, use vocal aids/growl and move him in a tight circle. Stop if you have to. Then go back to working. I'd also suggest checking his tack, teeth and back (you never know - it could be pain related). It might also be him trying to show that he's bored, so perhaps try doing something a bit different.

Remember to use your aids clearly. He might get confused and that might be a reason he's not listening. Or... it could purely be because he's a stroppy teenager. :lol:

So my advice:
- use a whip if you think it will benefit him.
- use clear aids.
- don't get frustrated!
- check his teeth, tack and back in case of any pain related causes.
- work him in a circle if he misbehaves.

Also, he could just not be worked on the left rein on a regular basis, so I'd recommend changing direction/rein and getting him working on the left a bit more. He might just need to loosen up on the left side.
Hope this helped a bit!
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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby ShortyTheHobbitess » Thu Jun 09, 2016 4:57 am

@Hime - That filly is too cute for her own good! Glad to hear on how she's coming along.

@Mr.Milo - I agree to check tack/teeth/ect, but it's also sounding like he doesn't fully respect you just quite yet, but that will come in time. One thing you could do is shorten the inside rein and bump with your outside leg to keep him moving in the right direction, then depending on how you feel & what his owner allows you could use either a crop or spurs to help clarify your aids and that you mean business.
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Then there was the one show snob there, A, generally with other horse people I try to be polite & stay out of their way because we all do things a little different, but she just really rubs me the wrong way. During the open ride, she was constantly yanking on Walters face, overly correcting him, he's about as trained as it comes for a pleasure horse, but still she's never satisfied with him, I don't think I saw A praise Walter once last night, not a pat or a 'good boy'. In halter we use chains on the horses just for the show, usually just running it from the right side of the halter, under the chin, and out the left side. If Shorty is getting antsy or raising her foot to try & paw, I'll give a firm pull on the chain, then loosen the chain right up and leave her alone about it. Here A is snapping the chain on him constantly, even if he had been standing still for a short while. And evidently he likes to bite, so here she was with a pin and jabbing him with it, which made him throw his head, from which he snapped himself with the chain, and the scene kept repeating itself. Then when A's mother took Walter, she held him in a fashion where he was going to nip her hand, poked himself with the pin just once, & then stood quietly for the next half hour. If you want an example of a horse who clearly doesn't enjoy his job or person anymore, Walter is a prime example.

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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby Verdana » Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:11 am

@ Hime: CONGRATULATIONS! What a gorgeous and mischievous little filly! I'm glad to hear that her legs are fixing themselves up now. She looks like quite a character. And big! You must be thrilled.

@ Shorty: It's great to hear that you and Shorty are getting along so well. Big improvement by the sounds of it. It's a shame about A and a pity that a willing horse is subjected to a rider like that. And what on earth is this idea about poking horses with a pin? I've never heard of that being done before.

@ Soul of Winter: Congrats on your first show going so well! Looks like you and Misty had a good time.

@ Mr.Milo: If you're struggling to get him over a jump, maybe work on flatwork a little bit more first. Sounds like it could be an early relationship/respect thing. Also, with younger horses you sometimes need to be MUCH clearer with your instructions. Looking at the wrong place going over a jump could lead to confusion and ducking out. I'm with the people suggesting working with a trainer for a bit, or starting on ground poles and working slowly up from there. As for the pulling, be aware that it might happen and react accordingly. Start blocking him with your leg before he even thinks of pulling. Good that you ended on a positive note though!


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My riding: I've been working with baby Sitara's grandfather, Chewbacca; Squirrel; a lovely arab cross mare named Sherbet and whatever else comes my way. Been doing some jumping and I've overall been quite happy with the way it's going. We've been working on sorting out my seat, and I can now sit a canter with the sort of stillness and correctness that has eluded me for the past thirteen years. My ankles are coming right too! We're making progress ^^ Really not much to report on that front.

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Baby is about four and a half months old now. She's got her winter coat, so she's very woolly (much like a baby sheep). She's not hit an ugly stage yet, but I fear it's coming. For such a pretty baby, she isn't very photogenic:
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She is so sassy, and so lovely. She's still super friendly (if she's lying down in her stall she'll let me join her for a cuddle) and keen on contact. She's gotten weird about her ears lately. Either the grooms are being rough when they halter her, or it's from when she got her head stuck in an empty bucket (don't worry; it was for a few seconds tops and she is fine).
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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby quit-cs » Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:28 am

Wow i haven't posted here in a long time. But I haven't been able to read for almost two years now which is sad. And I dont live on a ranch or own/lease my own horse. My property is only one acre so thats kind of small if i were to own a horse. And our ground is holey (not god like holy) because gophers and squirrels suck :I but were used to it

Its unfortunate though, if i had a horse i wouldn't be able to ride at home because I'm afraid they would get the hoof caught in a hole and break their knee or something. >~< my old instructor lost a horse sort of that way but he had vertigo from an ear infection and he fell and broke his knee ;-; poor Bosco...

And even if i had a horse the weather where i live would seriously hurt the horse because one day its hot the next day is freezing rain or something. I wish i could own a horse but i clearly can't with such bad weather and a bad condition back yard. ;-;
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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby Hime » Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:28 am

@Mr.Milo: Long time no see. :) Yes, I still have Heta's first foal. He's quite handsome 3 year old stallion now and going of to his first training period in fall. Little sad to see him all 'grown up' already, but also excited to see how he works under saddle.

As for your little issues with Cracker. I'm no expert on jumping but pretty much agree with others. And then the bratty behavior, seen similar before though usually the horses have tried to fall out to the inside. Honestly it just sounds like he's rebelling on going to the harder direction, but there could be underlaying reasons for it was well(sore/stiff muscles, one leg having some pain(unlikely if he has that squirming issue on straight track as well) ). If he does that next time, keep both reins on contact(if he's sneaking off shoulder first, you might need to take little with the outside rein to straighten him up) and block him with your outside leg or even use whip on the outside shoulder. Also watch out your own weight shift is not actually the cause. Then when he stops wiggling ride forward. With one case if the horse is not ridden forward enough, he starts to get all squirmy on straight track. Since it's possibly the harder direction for him, try work him little more to that direction, doing circles and other bendy lines. Figure 8s are also great to kinda 'trick' him into going to the other direction as well without actually going on the track. c; Also you could talk to his owner about you issues with him and see if they might have some tips that work well with him.

@선장 재휸: While I don't really have the DIY boarding contract of any sort, at the moment I'm pretty much caring for Heta daily bases. Basically she needs to be fed 3 times a day, stalls needs to be cleaned out once and she also needs some turn out time. Since I also pretty much take care of all the horses at the moment at the stable, it takes me minimum of 35 minutes to feed 17? of them in the day into 9 paddocks and couple stalls in total. But considering I have to do that 3 times a day, plus check, clean and fill waters, it takes a good chunk of time. Cleaning one stall takes about 10-15 minutes, more or less depending how messy/clean the horse is and how familiar I'm with their messing habbits.

How much time and days you'll need to do in sort of DIY kind of setting depends on the stable and contract. Some places will turn out and feed your horse, but you'll need to clean the stall yourself preferably every single day. While others make a shift schedule among boarders, were each do their share of mornings, days and evenings of feeding and turning out(usually the cleaning is once again done by each horse's owner). How much times the chores take depend on how many horses there are to look after, but luckily many times places that work on shift schedules aren't that big. Like the stable at my school has 5 stalls, so 5 boarders, 3 shifts per day, so 15 during the week and then weekends they rotate so that each does one per month at least. So each boarder only has 3 shifts during the week, plus cleans their own stall each day but weekends.The fun stuff of grooming and riding you can stuff into 2 hours.
So take home message: Total DIY type of boarding arrangement pretty much ties you in 365 days a year, unless you can get someone to cover for you on certain days. And as you'd possibly also need to be there several times a day to feed it may not be the best option for student. Shift based one can give you some free time, but usually you still need to clean that stall daily or get someone to clean it for you. In basic boarding place you mainly get to do the fun part of grooming and riding, so if you are tight on time(but not super tight on money) I'd suggest going for full boarding. Also remember that if the stable is not close by, take the time it takes for you to travel there also into consideration when thinking about possible boarding places.

@Luzien: No other foals unfortunately, as that one mare of L's didn't get pregnant last summer. But L is breeding that mare again this and also one other mare this year in hopes of having two foals next summer.
The poops were pretty hard and I could see lot of fiber strands from hay in them, so most likely she has been eating too much hay(seriously she tries to eat everything, sand included unfortunately). I see her very often drinking so I would not think it was only from her not drinking well, but we've been wondering is she getting enough at one drinking time. She is gaining weight and muscle nicely though, so she's getting something out fo Heta for sure...

@Verdana: Oh my your baby is already over 4 months old. Totally didn't realise it's been that long since she was born. Her eyes may stay on lighter shade of brown since horses with cream gene tend to have, not sure if the blue stays though. Would be cool if it did.
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Heta's now on fresh cut grass diet due her stupid filly eating too much of things that are not yet good for her. :roll: Feykja may be smart with somethings, but when it comes to eating things she's the most fustrating foal I've ever come across. She licks stall walls, buckets, my boots, eats Heta's hay like she's older than 2 weeks, tries to eat Heta's hard feed(which I'm not letting her to eat) and worst of all she has taken liking to eating and licking sand and dirt while outside... -______- I'm very much not impressed by that. Also after the blockage episode she's had very runny poop since than. While I'm glad she's passing stuff now, it's still exactly not healthy. She's been drinking well and acting very much like herself despite the runny poop, so for now I'm not ringing up a vet just yet. If her gut doesn't settle down by the end of the week or she gets lethargic again, then I'm calling a vet. Other than that, she just needs her butt washed pretty often to prevent the skin from getting sores. Not fun stuff, but at least she's good about it most times. >_< I've also moved the salt lick so that she also has access to it in hopes of maybe getting her odd fixation to sand vanquised.

I also got to ride yesterday! :D On a lesson, on a horse that kinda reminds me of Heta so I've wanted to try her out. Basically the mare had been little bratty with the kids on past lessons, so I kinda needed to set down the rules on her again and then I needed to be little leading help with her for one horse, who's pretty lazy without other horse going infront of him. She was nice horse, just as easy and simple as I thought and suprisingly light in the mouth(even though her head carriage left loads of room for improvement). Pretty darn stiff all over though and really slow in walk. She only tried to be naughty with me few times and pretty mildly really, and I think one time was partly my fault as I wasn't that clear with my turning aids. Though I was pretty 'strong'(for lack of better word) right from the beginning, so she probably got the message I wasn't letting her get away with stupid stuff. Either way it was nice and soft slide back into riding as R(who's back in business more or less after having her baby 6 months ago, yay) originally had planned to put me on little harder horse, who mainly needs to be ridden with seat(which is one of my weaknesses). Though I still think she's putting me on that horse one day... I'm just glad it wasn't yesterday as I feel I'm sore enough from this easy mare. XD All though I really thought I'd get much sorer muscles, but only my inner thighs and seat bone area(the saddle, while othervise okay, had pretty hard seat) are really feeling it, plus my back was pretty stiff in the morning. I think I'm glad I've been doing stable work past 3 weeks or so, and somewhat gotten back my muscles. lol
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