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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby Hime » Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:46 pm

@NocteLuna: One thing that stands out, lack of contact to the mouth in many of the clips. Literally at some points the reins are totally loose and flap around. At the same time I think they could also be little shorter even if they were on contact. Personally I'd lean forward less in canter and trot, but I've noticed that leaning forward on flat seems to be common when jumping so...

@thoroughbred: Congrats on your first horse. :)

@Enchanted: Well, we don't really have similar 'show name' system as US, meaning 99.9% of people who show the horse goes by it's registered name(and since registeration is a must these days, most horses have one since their birth). ^^ This rule applies 100% to Icelandics as it's very important to be able to prove your horse is purebred in the show circles so registeration is a must and name changes don't really happen. So Heta and Tý would for go by their offical registered names on shows. Which are for Heta: Jarlhetta frá Skidbakka 3 and Tý goes by Tývar frá Morgunsol.
First part of the name is the actual name of the horse, frá means from and the last part(often a mouthfull if the horse is from Iceland lol) is basically either the place/area/stable the horse was born at, which basically works as breeder identification tag of sorts outside Iceland. Like two horses with same last name are either bred by same person or at least born at the same place.

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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby Nocte Luna » Thu Jun 11, 2015 12:04 am

@Hime Thank you! I'll try and keep those things in mind next time I'm riding. I know leaning forward is definitely one of my problems that I'm struggling with at the moment, and I know it needs to get fixed. The contact thing, I wasn't so aware of, but I will be next time. Thank you so much!

@Personal riding- It's been a little slow lately and we haven't done anything really intense or jump anything other than one foot X's in the past month. The barn owner's been around a lot more lately and we don't pay extra to jump higher, so my instructor only lets my friend and I jump higher when she's not around.

And wow, the ab exercise my friend told me about works REALLY well. If you need to work on your abs, especially for riding, let me know and I can send you the exercise. It's really effective and I did it only a couple times during the week.
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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby ξƞçɧαƞtєđ » Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:05 am

Hime: That is really interesting and I'm glad I don't have to be the announcer at those shows as I can't even begin to even try and pronounce those names. What language are they in? I have always thought horses from anywhere had the usual 'show or registered name' and then of course, the barn name because screaming the show name that has four long words in it across the field is just silly. XD

Nocte Luna: You have to pay money to move up levels in jumping? :/ That is the strangest thing I've ever heard. If you have worked hard and excelled to move up a bar, than I say you've earned it enough not to have to take money out of your pocket to do so. That's ridiculous.

I am highly interested in this exercise. Mind sending it to me or at least explaining what to do? XD

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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby Nocte Luna » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:42 am

@Enchanted
Yeah, it's a little ridiculous. You're allowed to jump only 1 foot cross rails unless you pay extra. And even if you pay extra, you can only jump up to 2'6" verticals. My instructor ignores the fact that we don't pay extra and lets us jump verticals at least once a month if the stable owner isn't around. Honestly, once they started to enforce that rule and bumped up their prices, I was considering switching barns, but there are no other good barns in the area that have jumping and aren't more than half an hour away.

And I'll send it right away! It's a really good workout and it's pretty simple.
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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby Luzien » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:45 am

@ Enchanted:
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that was a nice pay, sad that so much is gone already....Little sloppy Monster babys :lol:
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i found this funny, as i had to think after i read this and looked at the pic, that ..."how the hell could this horse win any race in this terrible form...." i mean non of them on this two pic are in any form of Training, all the fat, and no muscle, then i looked back and shecked a pic of Pharao and did see, wrong horse^^ and then i read that i was right with the wrong horse, but they are not to different so i understand. ^^ but im still not sure what horses this are...which barn-stable...i mean there are a lot of ex racers that are stallion with Colors like this...---> do you know them now?

To Show name: nahh i do think that only in the USA and maybe australia, Canada rider use Show Names for there horse.
icelandics go like Hime did say and also some arabs, ome shetland breeder...

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oh my my , hope that its only bad headache a migraine or stress symtom. But i think it will be this, hey you had lot of stress, your poor Boy is gone from you, you got a new horse that was not in a nice home, your donkeys your maybe pregnant donkey....Job and Money....thats a sign of to much in to short a time, maybe the parents.
Good luck for you, hey i was also in it for my bad headaches and so, they even checked my heart....its only middle to sometimes strong typ migraine....nothing bad, so i hope you will be also lucky.^^

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@ Nocte Luna: i would like this exercise :D for when im fit again in some month,and when my doc gives the ok to do mare then walk^^

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@ Hime:
yes that is addicting to Play around there, but sadly nowadays there are to much Problems on this site...

sure chestnut, but when one of both has a Color gen it may be possible for a surprise^^
did you had ti do a test with Heta, or does the sir of your new next yyear foal has an test for this?
loud White marks....big White socks, a White head^^ wish you luck and that the Baby will have cute White marks!
some stallions are extrem with White markings on there foals....i last time looked at a horse that looked like a cow^^

ahahso...he is still in Training, wow the guy must Need tons of feed then to stay fit.
thats a clever Boy....yes with 9 he knows which mare to stay away as Long as possible and what hurts the most^^

Good that the idea did help you, hope it works out too, please tell if it does, maybe a Clip too when it really works well^^

that was great with the mix up of papers when they had different colors :lol: but poor owner so much stress, they where happy to get there horses and then this, no trust....but the bether question is how did they get through the check up after the plane ride like this....
when it would not be so expensive the best would be to go to with the mare to the breeder stay till pregnant and then bring the mare back with the plane yourself...so you never get the wrong stallion or mare^^ but now there is DNA to the chip and not so easy to mix up the parents per accident or not....or breed the horses in iceland and only bring the best one home and sell the rest on iceland.

Hehehe...you found a new Job...a miss detective now^^
but when the stallion has a full brother or first son the dna is partly right...so with a bit time it could be maybe possible to match them, atleast i think so, never had to go there and dont know anybody near us, but i think what you found out could be already the right step! and the stallion owner did offer to help you so its a good way. Hopeful it was not a stray Young stallion...then it would be a long time.
Good luck!

wow that was fast, maybe she found the stallion more interesting as it first looked^^
thats great that you can take her home so soon :)
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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby June Bug » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:12 am

@Hime
It was really sweet of him <3 He's a real sweatheart and is always offering to do things like that when he's available. The manager loves having him around since he's always willing to help out with the school horses. He's saved them a lot of money on vet bills!
It was definitely a little nerve wracking for me too, but she was started very well and I trust that her trainer wouldn't have let me on her if she didn't think I was able to handle her. It's definitely a special kind of happy you get from riding a youngster.
I think most of it is re-training. xD We've had his teeth done and are currently trying out different bits (I rode him in a slow-twist D), but he's making it difficult to pick one as he doesn't really behave any better or worse in any of them. We had him in a twisted wire for a while, but the one girl who likes him protested (I really hate those too) so she's been working her way through the bits from softest to harshest. I may offer her my bitless, but I doubt that even she would be brave enough to try it. xD

It's exciting to hear you'll have another little one! Do they allow the 'couple' multiple tries to increase the chances of success? I've never heard of sending the mare away to be bred, but then again, I don't pay much attention to the 'how-to's of breeding since I have a gelding, haha. It seems like the most common way to breed a mare here is to order semen from the owner of the stallion. I rarely hear about live coverings outside of TB lines.

@ξƞçɧαƞtєđ
He came in from the field with it so we're not entirely sure. He tends to be a bit of an unfortunate pasture acrobat though, so little cuts and nicks aren't uncommon for him. We also just recently opened up the big grassy pasture for them too so he's been extra excited about outdoor playtime.
She's one of those mares that is skeptical of everyone. If she doesn't know you, or you haven't earned her respect, she'll give you a look and little "F you" head flip and good luck trying to put a hand on her. But, if you've worked with her and bonded, she would do anything to please you. That's why the one girl gave up, she couldn't get Hope to respect her and never formed a bond, so when she attempted to back her, Hope reared and tossed her off. After that, she would kick out at the girl every time she approached.
I haven't gotten any pictures in a while. I really need to remember to take my camera next time I go to the barn.

Ouch, that pain doesn't sound fun at all. Hopefully, it is just psychosomatic and will dwindle along with the emotional pain of losing Sky. :C Honestly, none of those possible causes are all that favorable, but strokes and clots aren't something you should have to deal with on top of everything else.

@Nocte Luna
Lol, that sounds familiar. Our BO has been hanging around a lot too so not a lot of people have been going out for pleasure rides. He has a tendency to step in and give people "free lessons", which would be great except he's one of those trainers that yells insults at you and then throws rocks at you if you cry/protest/can't do it right (he's got excellent aim and likes to go for the face). He doesn't teach official lessons anymore since parents don't like that, haha.

That jumping rule is so odd and the hight he picked is pretty low. Even I jump 2'6" and I don't consider myself a jumper at all. :/ We have no height limit and don't have to pay extra for higher level classes. The only thing that limits us is that ability of our horse. I'm glad your trainer lets you jump though. I could understand limits on certain school horses (My barn has a few that can't jump at all and others that are only allowed to jump 18" or 2' maximum), but it seems weird to disallow competent riders on capable horses from progressing like that. :I

Abs you say? I could use some of that. xD

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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby APH Italy » Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:11 am

I'm still very jealous of all of you. I haven't been able to ride since 6th grade and I have neither the room or money to own my own horse. I don't have a car to drive to the nearest stable either but that's beside the point. And mom refuses to let me get a job until I'm 18 so I'm kinda stuck in a hole. My girlfriend said we can have horses though so.. One more year..
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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby ξƞçɧαƞtєđ » Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:48 am

Luzien: The sad part is...I already have rubber stall mats on top of 2-3 feet of sand for extra comfort...XD I've already cut back on shavings as much as I can without depriving them of a fluffy place to sleep (especially Willy- he LOVES laying down for sleeping, naps, relaxing, and just being lazy. I tossed a carrot to him once while he was laying down and the poor little guy stretched his neck out so long to try and get at it without having to stand up...Willow stole it before he could accomplish his mission. lol).

I did make a booboo with calling them what I did- I guess I had Triple Crown on the brain, plus I had just worked a crazy shift at work and I was NOT in it. I am face palming now, but I am now at a loss as to who those horses are.

Thank you! I did go to our local farm store today and bought Buck a fly mask and I asked them to order and put aside two donkey masks (turns out they have some for $18). I ordered the size as 'standard' and hopefully within the week, I get the call letting me know they have them and Willow and Willy can join Buck in his merriness at not having to worry about the flies in his eyes. lol

June Bug: Oh Granix...XD I'd be willing to bet my money he attempted one of those 'Lipizzaner Stallion' moves and failed epically. Hope he does get better soon and I'm glad to hear he's getting a clean bill of health and even more so he's adapted and knows he needs to help you guys in healing, it's remarkable he's found a way to roll without getting it too dirty. What a smart boy...when he's not horsing around in the new play pasture. lol

Oh, little miss Hope sounds a lot like a TB mare I had to rehabilitate from a previously abusive ownership. She broke me arm. XD lol. But she was a love after you got around her little quirks and if you got on her good side, she was as loyal as any good old farm dog. She also had a uncanny fascination with hats and so one day, I brought a old hard purple cowgirl hat to the barn, we cut two holes in it, and she wore that thing all day and we had to chase her to get it back before me and my trainer left that day. Hehe, memories.

But the kicking out part is a tad worrisome. Did you ever witness the girl that failed to 'break' her abuse her in any way? I wouldn't think a horse would sink to kicking unless they had a firm reason that that person was there to hurt them and they were expecting it. I know Buck is that way with grown men and things that resemble whips, hats, sticks/poles, and he terrified of chains and he'll kick out in self defense because he's expecting to get hurt.

Nocte Luna: That is just greedy in my opinion. As June Bug said, the only thing that should limit you from achieving a higher level is your ability as a rider the ability of your horse- a price tag should not be put on something that you earn with hard work, sweat, and tears. I'd say go and find another place to ride, but seeing as there aren't any close by, is there a possibility of the boarders and maybe even the trainers bringing their feelings to the barn owner and possibility get the rules changed? I'm sure he makes more money than he's spending and there isn't any reason to charge money to progress with your horse.

Lye: Don't be jealous- I was in your situation once too when I was younger. I lived in a suburban neighborhood on less than a acre of land. But at the age of 6, I was finally able to start getting riding lessons, which later on progressed into me becoming my trainer's assistant and partner when it came to rehabilitation of neglect and abuse cases. Will your parents consider lessons? It is a wonderful way to begin to learn about how to ride and properly care for horses. If you don't have the money, offer your volunteer services with mucking out stalls, sweeping, watering, etc.
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Buck got his new handsome fly mask (pictures to come tomorrow). At first, he avoided me, and then he tried to kick out at the fly mask which was in my hand at the time (luckily he missed- it does resemble a hat in a way I guess and I was going for his head, so that might explain it). But I finally caught up to him and after a few rubbing along the body and face sessions and giving a over-sized demonstration of putting the mask on Willow, who will literally do anything that involves things animals are usually afraid of, (*sigh*), Buck allowed me to put it on and adjust it to his tiny head and he is rocking it. The donkeys have shunned him for now as he now looks like a alien from another planet, but they'll get over it. Hopefully he keeps it on, doesn't rip it, and the donkeys won't go 'I'll save you from the monster that's eating your face!' and rip it off only to hide it somewhere I'll never find it. Haha...I have some huge expectations...I'll probably need to buy a new one in about a week. XD
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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby Hime » Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:46 am

@Nocte Luna: That's really silly system. :/ I've only seen some stables charge extra for lessons where there are only 2-4 people, which sort of makes sense considering private lessons are more expensive and those stable usually have average of 6-8 people per lesson. But to charge extra for jumping higher, that's plain ridiculous.
Easy good ab exercise, yes please. Though I'm super lazy to do anything at home, but might as well try. XD

@Enchanted: Most of the first names are in Icelandic(or something that can be easily pronounced by an Icelandic/nordic person), last names vary depending on the country the horse was born in(frá can also be replaced with vom, from or från depending on the country). Sometimes people try translating their farm/stable name to Icelandic or often have named the stable in Icelandic to start with, so they use that as last name. Morgunsol, for example, means morning sun in Icelandic, though it is not our stable's name. Skidbakka, or actually Skidbakki, is an actually place in Iceland divided to two farm areas 1 and 3. ^^ Icelandics kinda have first and last name like people and then sometimes nicknames, which would be their barn names if not using their first name.

Oh no, that sounds kinda bad... :c Hopefully it's nothing serious, might be stress related as well.
If you have the chance to clip Willy, I wanna see pics of 'naked' him. XD

@Luzien: Neither have been tested nor have clearly splash parent(at least I don't remember so), so it's purely me being hopeful(sire has had one foal with pretty loud white marks and tends to throw some white on the foals). Though now that it has been proved Heta's sire isn't Jarl, chances of Heta being 'secret' splash are less likely... Jarl I actually though may have been small marked splash, as I think he had couple foals that had wide blazes and blue eyes etc. classic small splash marks. But now it would seem Heta's sire is actually a solid black one(I'll write about that later on this post), so she would have inherited the color and markings from her mother, who doesn't have too many foals with white marks.

@June: With some type of bitless you can also put on a bridle with bit. c; So if the bitless fails you have 'safety' brake at use. Of course that would mean two reins, but in theory you wouldn't have to have both on your hands at the same time.

AI(ordering semen etc.) is also the most common way of breeding here, though minus ponies and Icelandics which are mainly bred via live cover. Some cold blood trotters offer live covers, if they are not big shots in the competitions/races and are not expecting ton of mares. I know literally one Icelandic stallion here, who advertises to do the AI method. It's a shame really as most Icelandic stallions live in the southern half of the country, while there are also mares up it the north, which would have to travel a loooong way to be bred.
When doing live cover, in hand, they breed the mare every other day after the heat starts until the mare no longer allows the stallion near her. That way the optimal time is usually not missed and the chances are good for the breeding to take. If the mare and stallion would be allowed to be freely in the pasture, I've heard the stallion would breed with the mare several times a day... With AI, they need to do several ultrasounds to pin point that exact optimal time for the breeding and often they use a hormone shot to speed up the ovulation after putting the stuff in. (lol, I wonder if this is even a CS safe matter to talk about XD)
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I went to hang out at the stable, since I was bored and needed to whine about Heta's daddy issues to people. XD Lucky I went and stayed pretty long(filmed one camper's horse being ridden by S for R, while R took two groups of campers for trail ride, so then had to wait until R got back to show her the clips) as I finally saw the adorable fox cubs. <3 Only down side, the freaking wind. It's been really really windy lately and it's barely 20C outside, so with cold wind and no sun it actually gets pretty cold, especially without windproof jacket(guess who forgot theirs home -_-). The wind was also the kind that picks up great amount of dust and other little bits and flies it straight into your eyes and mouth and even under your clothes. >_<

Also when I got home I found Tý's breeding show papers among the mail. <3 This style is called linear evaluation if someone wonders. ^^

Now about Heta's daddy issue. I got the mail chain today about this whole mess, and turns out this issue has come up already in MARCH. O_O In the conversation, no one mentions telling the owner about it(other than, 'the owner should contact the breeder and try figure it out, or if they can't we should') and they've actually contacted the breeder and figured the possible sire candidates. Apparently there were 6 stallions that summer on the farm, only 2 have DNA taken. One was the one they thought was Heta's dad and the other they've now ruled out as not her dad based on the DNA. The breeder thinks the most likely sire is stallion called Krummi frá Sólheimum(who is dead, so no possible way to get his DNA). I'm not too over joyed over this knowledge as, well, he's actually not very great on paper at least... Barely average with total score of 7,61 and only one first prize ofspring. Though he only had handfull evaluated ofsprings anyway. : PThe reason why I wasn't notified of any of this until now(as soon as the stallion owner mailed people about this I was contacted by the registeration office people), is because the registeration person thought the Icelandic horse people involved would have told me. -__- Oh, really now... I think it's the registeration people's job to tell the owner if there's something wrong with your horse's papers. As they had to order new passport for Heta from Iceland and also Tý needs new passport as well, since Heta's pedigree changes. So I'll have to deliver both of their old papers to the office to get new ones. : P They also seem to already have the new papers for Heta, so kinda really [censored] thing they haven't let my know about it before.
Still trying to see if it would be possible to get a match by compairing Krummi's ofspring's DNA to Heta's... Probably won't be enough for offical records, but I'd like to know my mare's pedigree if I breed her or her foals. Luckily if Heta's sire really is Krummi, it doesn't up Tý's or the future foal's inbreeding too that much, might actually lower it now that I think about it...

Edit: Well, turns out the person trying to figure out this mess and checking DNAs already compaired Heta's with the two foals, not a match. And the two are not even from the same sire either. :roll: So back to square one, now I need to find out the names of the 3 non-checked stallions...
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Re: Do You Ride Horses? V.4

Postby APH Italy » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:26 am

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We can't afford them. Or at least that's what they say. Lessons would be cheaper than colorguard, but yeah. I'm going to try to move in with my girlfriend next summer and I'll start taking lessons there so that maybe I'll be able to at least have a lease horse by the time I finish vet school. My girl was saying she wants one too but she's not really all that experienced either- but moving in will most likely be a big pain in the tush, since she's working and I'm doing everything I can to get things we need for our apartment
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