Do You Ride Horses? V.4

[Luzien]

that with the vet i find strange...do you have a clinic or other vet maybe even from other town, that you could call to come? its not right from him to put it off each time, sure time is always a Problem for a vet, but even our vet who really is outide for sometime all day, finds atleast Moment to come when we have a Problem and we cant find out over the phone what the Problem is, and when its an other day...
....this Operation takes only 15-45mins. or so.normaly atleast when all goes well.

So ask an other, sometimes there is a small animal vet who did work with large animals but wanted to work with small only, who could do this normaly easyer Operation. or bring him in the animal clinic?

And with your parents there is an easy way, set up a contract with that they will pay all expenses when she is pregnant and after while it is still with her, and will take care of the Baby donkey after, maybe with a list of possible Money for the two years. That will clear there eyes...and its your Money as you did say, as Long as they dont pay, and offered to help like your dad with the building of a third stall, they have no say how you Keep your animals, and she is still a Baby a Young mare, that you can tell your mom, that is like if you got pregnant with 11 or 13ears....
not really the best and not healthy.


--> Do you have still Panels over from your roundpen, or can you take three of them (that is enough for a shelter stall when its direct in front(or at the side of the stable) of willows or Bucks stall...Bucks stall would be even bether)?
then you could build an easy Paddock bevor the stall of willow. and put a tent or so over as shelter, and for the pasture Problem, you could put him when she is outside with Buck, in the roundpen!!

or you could put a Panel in the stall so that both have half of it or the bigger one a bit larger part, and over the day he gets in the roundpen, so he cant break out....
----> he may cry, but that could help your case with your parents, when he did this for some days, and they did not get peace all day (you life there?) then they help you get him castrated and even build you more then one new stall
dont give her hormones or blocker or get her get castrated that is more hard on Mares or female Dogs and whatever then him loosing his bits^^

i wish you the best luck and that anything goes well, that she is not pregnant and you maybe can Keep them apart and find an other vet who find a Moment of his-her time to help....maybe cry a bit....sometimes it helps(when talking with vet or parent^^)

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Luzien: Trust me...I've been crying in secret since I've gotten the news...

My vet is, overall, a wonderful guy and I'd trust him with all my animals' lives in a heartbeat- he's the one that helped diagnose Sky's death and he's also the one I shadowed for a while and plan to shadow again sometime this summer. But I can understand it's not his fault that Willy's testicles (at least one isn't) ready to be cut out. He said he can cut out the right one no problem, but he'd rather do both at once to prevent significant stress on both Willy and myself. We do have other clinics, but they require us to come to them, and Willy isn't the best to trailer and does panic unless I'm with him (and it's a tad illegal to transport a human in a trailer with a nervous baby donkey).

I've made it quite clear to my parents the risk it's running, and they both continue to tell me to stop worrying about it and that if God wants Willow to have a baby, then she'll have a baby and if He doesn't, then she won't. I've also offered to help build the stall more than once, and my dad's answer is 'we'll get to it when we need to get to it'. He's the world's biggest procrastinator and unless he sees the need as being urgent, then he won't move- no matter how much you beg or tell him it NEEDS to get done. If I try to tell him otherwise, then I get chewed out, cursed at, and then ignored for a good solid 3-5 days until he cools down...yeah...he's one of those.

I do have a round pen, but it lacks shelter and in this time of year, we do get bad storms, and Willy still has long hair and him getting soaked in a storm and prodded with 25mph winds is a recipe for hyperthermia or some respiratory problems. The stall panel might work though...but I think each panel is 12' long, and our stalls are only 10' wide...so the math doesn't work out in our favor.

As for getting Willow spayed, it's been brought up by me- but the surgery costs an arm and a leg- things I can't afford right now. I do live with my parents (still in high school- going on junior year), so they still technically are in charge of what happens on their property, so it's not like I have much say when they do (or don't do) something, but it does get very annoying when they tell me I'm overreacting and that if worst comes to worst, THEN we'll worry about it. Well, I'd rather worry about it now and prevent anything bad from happening in the first place, but they don't seem to get it. I still don't think they understand what losing Sky did to me...all they understand is that I went into hysteric shock for 3 and a half hours before I could even stand. They /don't/ understand I can't go through that again...I can't lose another baby...not this soon.

[Henry is Bae]

Got my first miniature horse driving lesson!! It was amazing!

[Hime]

@Enchanted: Hey, speaking of those birthcontrols. What sort of product did your vet mean? There's this stuff called Regumate, which sort of could work as birthcontrol(used mainly to help up keeping the early pregnancy or cut prolonged heat) and it doesn't cost so much(150ml bottle was 66e, dosing is 1ml/50kg). But I'm not sure if it would be safe to feed all the time/often as the instructions say 'give once a day for 10 days'... :\
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Thanks both for the grass mites idea, I faintly remember hearing about some sort of bugs which sound similar symptom vise, but for the death of me can't remember what they were called in my language. >_< Googled the grass mites(which also don't have common name in my language : P ), and it seems we shouldn't have the type that causes symptoms on horses... So back to square one I guess...
The I washed the scabby areas carefully and scraped off the scabs that were soft enough, dried the legs and put some wound spray and anti-itch lotion(also should be effective to mud fevers etc.) little later. Under few scabs I found small cuts, maybe half cm to cm in size, which were mostly healed. So the mystery remains, but at least they didn't seem any worse... Vet's coming over on Monday(to ultrasoud Heta, hint hint c; ), so if they haven't cleared up by then or have gotten worse I ask her about them.

I also took Heta swimming yesterday, for first time this summer. ^^ Guess who was totally sound? Yup, nothing wrong when we headed out(other than Heta thinks there are too many bugs in the trails). Though when I trotted little up one hill, I did feel her other hind leg sort of give out for one step. So I guess it just means she hasn't healed yet and if she'd actually push with the hind, it sometimes hurts. :\ Swimming itself was fun, even though the water is still pretty cold and it was windy, so lots of waves. We didn't go so deep that Heta's back would have gone under water(I think she didn't quite like the waves when in the deeper water), but I got lap full of water thanks to one wave. XD Also if there were any bugs on her legs, maybe they froze and drowned while in the lake. : P

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Hime: That ultrasound hint is giving me ideas. You going to try again for your palomino filly? XD Please do tell...cliffhangers are not my favorite thing in the whole wide world. lol

If you are, we might end up being caretakers of newborns together seeing as both my parents are still refusing to see my viewpoint in any of this. But as for the birth control you mentioned, he never said the name, only showed me a small white bottle he said I'd have to mix in her feed or give to her like wormer every day in a very small dosage. He said with the amount that is in it and with how small she is, a whole bottle would last me a year, but that is still $300 out of pocket on my end and my job pays peanuts (that's what I get for being a waitress I guess...getting paid less than minimum wage and having to rely completely on the generousness of the people in my small, drug-dealer infested town, for tips...-_-). Either way, the spaying is a no-go and so is the birth/hormone control. Willow seemed to be out of heat this morning so it either stopped on it's own or Willy finally got her as he's not showing any interest in breeding her now...if she doesn't go back into heat by the end of July, I know I'm going to be a donkey momma to three. I talked to my vet and he again assured me that if she was to get pregnant, all the baby would really do is take some extra nutrients from her since she is still very young, but he also said donkeys mature faster than horses both mental and skeletal wise since they are more sturdy and small, so by the time she gives birth at around 2 years old, she should be ready. But I'd still rather stick with just two donkeys. I brought up building another stall again, and my dad blew me off, though my mom lingered on it a tad longer than he did and she did stand by me in that aspect, so hopefully, if I do tell them she is most likely pregnant, we'll get a baby-proof stall built in time that is big enough to support Willow and little Willow/Willy.

I still have yet to swim with any of my animals as I can picture Buck as being one of those 'I sink' types and my donkeys see water as something to drink and make bubbles with, not for getting anything above or below their muzzle wet with. But swimming is also very good therapy for any hurt ligaments or tendons in her legs so maybe the cold water did more good than you expected? I hope so, and I'm sure your pony girl enjoyed herself tons.

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Well...on a less stressful note, I went out and got Buck some polo wraps to support his tendons as he's already given me a scare during a lunging lesson where his rear right tendon was warm and a tad swollen because he decided to pull a Lipizzaner Stallion move in our arena and landed a tad awkwardly. It swelled down the next day since I cooled it off as soon as I brought him back in, but I'd rather him have extra support either way, and this will also help us with drill team and trail rides (August 1st is a scheduled 10mile ride for our drill team, followed by a picnic and some games, so I'm excited for that and Buck will be in familiar territory since before I got him, he was a trail horse- hense why he throws tantrums when he's not allowed to follow the horse directly in front of him. I also had to get a trail bag (going to get him used to one of those, and hopefully going to start training Willy and Willow to be pack buddies so I can hopefully start taking them on rides and perhaps even camping trips too...first they have to get used to the trailer though). And to top it off, Buck had to get another salt block- I've never met a horse to love his salt more than this one and he licked his last one completely gone, so this one should last us a few more months. I now just have enough saved up for grain and maybe a few bags of shavings- going to work a lot this week though so hopefully I can make it all up and then some.

[OmgItsPattie!]

xx

[vash ♡]

so how about american pharaoh being the first tc winner since '78?!

[OmgItsPattie!]

I know <3 Its truely amazing isn't it? I squealed when I found out cx

[BlingBling]

so how about american pharaoh being the first tc winner since '78?!

I figured as much. Nicely bred and built, and I knew none of the other 7 could stand a chance (though I did think Frosted would get a bit closer second than he did). He reminds me a lot of Seattle Slew but I'm not sure why. Overall, nice horse. Never liked his jockey but the sweet young Pharaoh made it through okay. I'm just extremely glad to see one win live and I live right by his new home so I'll try to take pics of him once he gets there ;3

[Luzien]

@ Enchanted: aww poor you, i feel you! i so hope that all works out and that your mom helps you get you stall maybe two are best when you really are becoming donkey "mom"
Thats mostly never good when a male shoves no interest in the female anymore, but maybe you where lucky and her heat was over and thats why...

Thats great that your vet is good and you trust him. I asked my mom and she told me that donkey really are a bit complicated when castrating....our vet always did say that ist bether to bring a donkey to the clinic to castrate them. Maybe you like to do this too...but ist your Thing, maybe you trust your vet more.

Great idea with Training for pack buddies for You and Buck....do you own the needed tackalready or know where to find it?
Maybe you like to have also a look in the "leave no trace sides"...i found them interesting as i looked in trail riding, and endurance races.
like this, ist a bit short but ok :
- http://www.leavenotracedude.com/lnt-horses.shtml
- http://www.equitrekking.com/articles/en ... rse_riding


@ Hime: i must say my mom and i both like the dark one also more. He...atleast on the Picture Looks bether. His proportions are more harmonious than the red. Do you have a Video Clip of the dark one too?
But i think each person has an other opinion.

-> I still think this are grass mites they have the same symptom like you did write....do you have a Pictures of the ares on her legs?
That could help.
- http://www.tteamforendurance.com/SiteIm ... chment.jpg
- http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/a ... 55345.html
- http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/s ... -legs-Help
- http://www.deboiz.co.uk/Article-Prevent ... -Mud-Fever
- http://us.arcanatura.com/horse-healthca ... scratches/
- http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/a ... 54133.html

it must not be mudd or the mittes, it could be an allergic reaction to some grass or plant or sand....


but when it more like a burn it could be hogweed plant...

great that she got bether ofter the Swimming....atleast when i did not understand it wrong^^ it did like so much fun!


@ OmhItsPattie! :
Lashley Looks like a nice horse, but she is realy still grean...wow that nice that you only now start to Train her under saddle^^
with this you could have a fit horse for a Long time.
I hope you will get where you want with her, and that we hear much of you two here in the future, i wish you good luck with her Training.And ist great that you changed the barn as he helps you more than the old as it seems!


@ To American Pharao the race horse :
dont hit me now
..... i myself should never jump in a talk about about american racehorses.....
i think he was lucky that there where so many american horses in this race, thats why he did win...
he has Northern Dancer in his Pedigree and never so good...