Dog Owner Chat! (for-fun poll added) (new chat)

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Where have you gotten your dog/s or where are you going to get them?

A cheap backyard breeder or an "accidental" litter
204
15%
Adoption via rescue/shelter/etc
616
45%
A responsible breeder
474
35%
I bred them myself(hopefully with good purpose and health tests...)
71
5%
 
Total votes : 1365

Re: Dog Owner Chat! (for-fun poll added) (new chat)

Postby Keletheryl » Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:37 pm

"My dog is so bad on walks she pulls all the time"
"Well, have you tried anything to stop?"
"Yeah, we have a prong collar"
"... Those aren't very safe. They kind of hurt the dog, pinch the neck skin"
"*gets defensive* oh well I don't know what else would work cause we kind of tried EVERYTHING"
"Piper uses a gentle leader, it's really nice and it works. Have you tried that?"
"No, but I know it wouldn't work"
"How do you know if you've never tried it? It really does work well and it's stronger than it looks"
"Tala would just bite it off"
"If you put it on properly they can't do that. You really should give it a try."
"Well you know the prong collar is used by professionals"
"Yeah... 'Professionals'"
"*gives me a look* yeah! like CESAR MILLAN"
"Exactly. 'Professionals'"

Why don't people just give things a try, before saying they have tried everything? What if that did make a difference, what if that solved her problems? She would never know because she believes her way is right (even though her dog continues to pull so it's obviously not working)
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Re: Dog Owner Chat! (for-fun poll added) (new chat)

Postby FuzzyThePunkCat » Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:40 pm

MaybeitsNeighbelline wrote:"My dog is so bad on walks she pulls all the time"
"Well, have you tried anything to stop?"
"Yeah, we have a prong collar"
"... Those aren't very safe. They kind of hurt the dog, pinch the neck skin"
"*gets defensive* oh well I don't know what else would work cause we kind of tried EVERYTHING"
"Piper uses a gentle leader, it's really nice and it works. Have you tried that?"
"No, but I know it wouldn't work"
"How do you know if you've never tried it? It really does work well and it's stronger than it looks"
"Tala would just bite it off"
"If you put it on properly they can't do that. You really should give it a try."
"Well you know the prong collar is used by professionals"
"Yeah... 'Professionals'"
"*gives me a look* yeah! like CESAR MILLAN"
"Exactly. 'Professionals'"

Why don't people just give things a try, before saying they have tried everything? What if that did make a difference, what if that solved her problems? She would never know because she believes her way is right (even though her dog continues to pull so it's obviously not working)
Sigh.

I've actually not even seen Cesar use a prong collar. Ugh, I hate when people use them.
I saw a dog in PetSmart wearing one and it was some type of Lab mix, wasn't pulling, wasn't overexcited or aggressive to other dogs, wasn't jumping on people, and looked to be only like 40 lbs. there was absolutely NO REASON whatsoever for that dog to be wearing a prong collar x.x
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Re: Dog Owner Chat! (for-fun poll added) (new chat)

Postby Saracirce » Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:02 pm

Ethulai wrote:
I find that with a lot of toy dogs, the owner's who get them tend to let them get away with murder - because they are small dogs. You wouldn't let a GSD jump on you, but toy dog owners seem to think it's okay if their Chihuahua jumps on you. Do you know what I mean?


I regularly invite Clemmy (boxer) to jump on me and she often does it in play without invitation as well. I love having a dog jump on me.

Lolita was allowed to 'jump' on us as well in her younger years and she's allowed to paw at us to be asked to be picked up when she doesn't feel safe. (though I try to avoid putting her in those situations) But it's not like I wouldn't allow a larger breed (with the exclusion of the REALLY big breeds like Danes) to jump on me.
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Re: Dog Owner Chat! (for-fun poll added) (new chat)

Postby Ethulai » Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:08 pm

Saracirce wrote:
Ethulai wrote:
I find that with a lot of toy dogs, the owner's who get them tend to let them get away with murder - because they are small dogs. You wouldn't let a GSD jump on you, but toy dog owners seem to think it's okay if their Chihuahua jumps on you. Do you know what I mean?


I regularly invite Clemmy (boxer) to jump on me and she often does it in play without invitation as well. I love having a dog jump on me.

Lolita was allowed to 'jump' on us as well in her younger years and she's allowed to paw at us to be asked to be picked up when she doesn't feel safe. (though I try to avoid putting her in those situations) But it's not like I wouldn't allow a larger breed (with the exclusion of the REALLY big breeds like Danes) to jump on me.


I meant when you first get home, or when they first meet someone. If they are invited, or they ask to be picked up, that is completely different.

A lot of people don't like having dogs jump on them - big or small. It's a precaution to teach them not to jump.
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Re: Dog Owner Chat! (for-fun poll added) (new chat)

Postby FuzzyThePunkCat » Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:11 pm

I let my dogs ump up if they are being played with or if they are invited to jump up, not when other people come in the house or when they see someone in PetSmart unless that person allows them to.
If Misty or Wolfgang jumped on someone who was weak or a kid they could easily knock them over. Wolfgang has knocked me over before. So, since they can't just randomly jump on anyone, it's not fair for me to let Marty or Kiba do that.

My grandmother allows her Maltese to stand up against her and bark and bark to be picked up. Considering its a Maktese, its more of an annoying scream than a bark. It's the most annoying thing in the entire world. If one of my dogs did that I'd probably go insane on them x.x

I just cannot stand the sound of small dogs barking. Kiba's voice isnt that bad, but most small dogs have the most annoying ugly voices just, ugh.
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Re: Dog Owner Chat! (for-fun poll added) (new chat)

Postby Saracirce » Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:26 pm

Ethulai wrote:
Saracirce wrote:
Ethulai wrote:
I find that with a lot of toy dogs, the owner's who get them tend to let them get away with murder - because they are small dogs. You wouldn't let a GSD jump on you, but toy dog owners seem to think it's okay if their Chihuahua jumps on you. Do you know what I mean?


I regularly invite Clemmy (boxer) to jump on me and she often does it in play without invitation as well. I love having a dog jump on me.

Lolita was allowed to 'jump' on us as well in her younger years and she's allowed to paw at us to be asked to be picked up when she doesn't feel safe. (though I try to avoid putting her in those situations) But it's not like I wouldn't allow a larger breed (with the exclusion of the REALLY big breeds like Danes) to jump on me.


I meant when you first get home, or when they first meet someone. If they are invited, or they ask to be picked up, that is completely different.

A lot of people don't like having dogs jump on them - big or small. It's a precaution to teach them not to jump.

Actually, I do allow Clemmy to jump on me when she's greeting me. Again, I like it. But, no, she doesn't do it to other people because, even though she's friendly, she's not like a lab where they're omg so excited to meet a new person they can't contain themselves. Jumping and kidney beaning is reserved for the people she loves. Like me. :P
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Re: Dog Owner Chat! (for-fun poll added) (new chat)

Postby FuzzyThePunkCat » Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:32 pm

@Saracirce My Lab doesn't jump on ANY people at all. Even if I allowed her to she still wouldn't. Neither do any of the other Labs I know, other than Jilli, but she is also part Corgi Chow and Basset.

I let my dogs jump on me when i come home too, but they know not to jump on random people unless told they can. They know if i tell them to stop jumping on me (like if I'm carrying something etc) that they need to stop. They usually won't jump on me if I'm carrying something or doing something though anyway.
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Re: Dog Owner Chat! (for-fun poll added) (new chat)

Postby Saracirce » Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:37 pm

Fuzzy, I was just using an example to illustrate an over friendly dog. And yes, I have known labs who were horrible jumpers, including one my own family owned when I was a kid. There are plenty of Labs who do it, especially when they're younger.
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Re: Dog Owner Chat! (for-fun poll added) (new chat)

Postby FuzzyThePunkCat » Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:40 pm

Saracirce wrote:Fuzzy, I was just using an example to illustrate an over friendly dog. And yes, I have known labs who were horrible jumpers, including one my own family owned when I was a kid. There are plenty of Labs who do it, especially when they're younger.

I know, but there are plenty of Boxers and other breeds so do too. Pretty much all dogs jump up as pups, you just need to teach them not to.
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Re: Dog Owner Chat! (for-fun poll added) (new chat)

Postby Saracirce » Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:47 pm

I'm aware of that Fuzzy. Stop being so defensive.
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