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Re: Chow-Chows?

Postby GrumpyCinnamonster » Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:12 pm

Jazi wrote:Most asain spitz arent cuddlebugs nor are they the easiest dogs to train, but they are among the most loyal dogs.


I agree, but I'd say all spitz type breeds in general are that way, not just the Asian spitz. While there are always exception, the majority of spitz are only going to be affectionate to people they trust, and this trust can be hard to earn, which makes rehoming most spitz breeds very hard(they really are not for families with small children). Spitz definitely aren't for everyone, and can turn into the nastiest dogs while under the care of someone who has no idea what to expect. If you know what to expect, and have patience, spitz are very rewarding dogs though, and they can be exceptionally affectionate when they want to be. Spitz will always be my favorite type of dogs, and chows are my second favorite spitz after poms. I'd have one if my mother didn't have a prejudice against them. All the ones I've been around were basically larger, less energetic pomeranians.
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Re: Chow-Chows?

Postby MalfoyQueen » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:22 pm

Jazi wrote:Most asain spitz arent cuddlebugs nor are they the easiest dogs to train, but they are among the most loyal dogs.


GrumpyCinnamonster wrote: I agree, but I'd say all spitz type breeds in general are that way, not just the Asian spitz. While there are always exception, the majority of spitz are only going to be affectionate to people they trust, and this trust can be hard to earn, which makes rehoming most spitz breeds very hard(they really are not for families with small children). Spitz definitely aren't for everyone, and can turn into the nastiest dogs while under the care of someone who has no idea what to expect. If you know what to expect, and have patience, spitz are very rewarding dogs though, and they can be exceptionally affectionate when they want to be. Spitz will always be my favorite type of dogs, and chows are my second favorite spitz after poms. I'd have one if my mother didn't have a prejudice against them. All the ones I've been around were basically larger, less energetic pomeranians.


In general, I would say obedience training is very easy, because of how bright and smart these dogs are. I mean, these dogs are practically potty-trained at birth. It's just getting through their independence and stubbornness that is challenging for many people. Socialization is the most important factor; they need constant exposure to other dogs and animals. Without proper socialization and training, these Asian spitz dogs can turn aggressive and very difficult to manage. That's why so many are given up, which I find extremely sad for the animal and find the owner irresponsible for. It takes a lot of time and patience and there will always be ups and downs, but it really pays off in the end.

My cousin has a Chow-Chow and that dog has quite the character. He's a complete goofball, especially with family. I've never had a Chow, but I've grown up with Korean Jindos since I was a baby and I will always have one in my life. My family has owned a variety of different dogs in addition to Jindos, and they are just so different and unique when you compare them to other dog breeds. With family, they are such sweethearts and lovebugs; with strangers, they are reserved and aloof in a very cool, indifferent manner. That's exactly my kind of dog. You just have to understand and know these dogs, not just temperament but also work/exercise and training needs, etc., which is understandably difficult for a lot of people.
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Re: Chow-Chows?

Postby IAmLink » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:36 pm

The way a dog behaves around other dogs, people, kids, etc. and how they act is all dependable on how you train the dog.

A lot of people get chow chows and/or chow mixes and have no idea how this breed, or any Asian spitz, is and they don't train and/or socialize properly. It's all about how you train the dog, and understanding how much training each breed needs, not on the individual breed itself.


Anyways, love love love Chow Chows, can't wait to own one <3
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Re: Chow-Chows?

Postby gemini_girl » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:47 pm

Saracirce wrote:I'm sorry but how does them being bred for eating at ONE POINT in an extremely ancient breed makes them an undesirable breed to own? As far as I know, they're no longer bred for that and they've been bred for show, companions and protection work more recently.


>.> Yeah I can't really see how beating that one fact to death is relevant to the conversation. That being said they are cute dogs, not the breed for me but cute non the less. And I'm sure they are the perfect breed for someone.
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Re: Chow-Chows?

Postby Resin » Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:00 pm

I absolutely adore chows. My first dog was a chow named Peking. We grew up together and he was my absolute best friend. He didn't like males very much, but he adored me and protected me with his life. My parents bought him as a family pet, but he was MY dog.
One day when I was about nine or ten, someone jumped the fence into our yard and Peking attacked them. We found out later that his person had been arrested many times for breaking and entering and also assault. We assumed that's what he had been planning when he jumped into our backyard.
It didn't matter that Peking was protecting his family; the court ordered that he be euthanized. It was to this date the most horrible day of my life. I still tear up when I see a big red chow.
Seeing people badmouthing chows just because they're more independent than other dogs is really an outrage. Yes, they're stubborn. So are you. Yes, they're protective of their families. So are you. Yes, they have a tendency to be aggressive in certain situations. So do you.
However, given the right circumstance and the proper training, they are capable of being loving, amazing, perfect companions for any family.
Since having Peking, we also had Geisha's Shadow; a blue chow, and Chooloo; a blue chow/labrador mix. Both were absolute gems.
Over the years I've also helped to rehabilitate and train many abandoned and neglected dogs including chows and I will say this: Dogs are what you make them. Just because a breed is said to be aggressive and stubborn doesn't mean that they have to be like that. With the proper love, attention, and training, any dog can be the perfect dog for you and your family.

Now that I'm done ranting... I love chows. (:

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Re: Chow-Chows?

Postby gemini_girl » Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:09 pm

That's so sad about your dog :c
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Re: Chow-Chows?

Postby Jazi » Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:19 pm

GrumpyCinnamonster wrote:
Jazi wrote:Most asain spitz arent cuddlebugs nor are they the easiest dogs to train, but they are among the most loyal dogs.


I agree, but I'd say all spitz type breeds in general are that way, not just the Asian spitz. While there are always exception, the majority of spitz are only going to be affectionate to people they trust, and this trust can be hard to earn, which makes rehoming most spitz breeds very hard(they really are not for families with small children). Spitz definitely aren't for everyone, and can turn into the nastiest dogs while under the care of someone who has no idea what to expect. If you know what to expect, and have patience, spitz are very rewarding dogs though, and they can be exceptionally affectionate when they want to be. Spitz will always be my favorite type of dogs, and chows are my second favorite spitz after poms. I'd have one if my mother didn't have a prejudice against them. All the ones I've been around were basically larger, less energetic pomeranians.

I have very little experience with other spitz breeds outside of the Asian spitz, so I always add the qualifier. Good to know :thumbup:

I do know that the Asian spitz also tend not to tolerate corrections well, and occasionally you have to get reeeeeeeeally creative on rewards because many are not food motivated (*glares at Mocha*), not sure if that applies to all spitz as well.

It's sad that these dogs have earned such a reputation when really they aren't supposed to be overly aggressive or shy :c
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Re: Chow-Chows?

Postby Pastasquid » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:07 am

Saracirce wrote:I'm sorry but how does them being bred for eating at ONE POINT in an extremely ancient breed makes them an undesirable breed to own? As far as I know, they're no longer bred for that and they've been bred for show, companions and protection work more recently.


I know that and I'm not saying I don;t like them for it. I just hate them, my oppinion, not yours.
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Re: Chow-Chows?

Postby Pastasquid » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:10 am

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loveheart307 wrote:I don't like them personally. They were bred for eating, they are stibbor, not that good with other dogs, they don't like to give or recieve affection. I'm not saying that ALL chow-chows are like that but the breed is. (A majority)

My dogs hate them and bark whenever they see them :D lol I think it's the face.


They were bred as sledding and working dogs then protection. ;D


I grew up with a Chow named Blue. As kids me and my brother pretty much rolled all over and around him. He was sch a great dog. Stubborn? Of course. He also hated strangers and didn't get along with other dogs. He was super affectionate with us and was pretty much in our laps or following us around. My brother and I pretty much learned to walk by holding onto his fur.<3 I'd definitely be interested in getting a chow if one happened to land in my lap. In his lifetime, he lived to be 17, he took two bullets to the skull and one to the hip, all at different times. He got into rat poison.He lived through a house fire. He got in several dog fights protecting his home and a guy trying to break in smacked him with a bat.. and through everything he got right back up. He died peacefully in his yard one morning after having no illnesses or anything else. Such a phenomenal dog, I'd love to have another Blue.



Wow, thats such a nice story! Awww he seemed really nice :D Sorry to here about that :)
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Re: Chow-Chows?

Postby Saracirce » Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:32 am

loveheart307 wrote:
Saracirce wrote:I'm sorry but how does them being bred for eating at ONE POINT in an extremely ancient breed makes them an undesirable breed to own? As far as I know, they're no longer bred for that and they've been bred for show, companions and protection work more recently.


I know that and I'm not saying I don;t like them for it. I just hate them, my opinion, not yours.


You listed being 'bred for eating' as one of the reasons you don't like them. I'm just trying to understand why that matters when they're no longer bred for it. I'm not trying to change your opinion. If you don't want people simply questioning something you're stating, don't say it.
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