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Re: Yur thoughts on pro dog breeding?

Postby Saracirce » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:51 am

1) That comment was mainly directed at Xena, not you, but I still don't think that 'she makes great dogs' is a good enough reason. 2) You asked for our opinions. We're telling you. It's ridiculous to post on a public forum and expect everyone to go 'oh, yes, that's such a great idea!' Not gonna happen.
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Re: Yur thoughts on pro dog breeding?

Postby Cardinal » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:54 am

julia7723 wrote:
Saracirce wrote:o.0 I have nothing against mutts. I (sorta) own a mutt. I volunteer at a shelter at least twice a week and walk their mostly mutt dogs. A plan to rescue all or almost all of my future dogs and they're very likely to be mutts. What I am against is people purposefully breeding mutts just to make more pets.

All those breeds you listed, that's just a small portion of all the breeds of dogs in the world. There are well over 400. If you can't find a single purebred among all those you like, then you just must not be a dog person.


Now you are too quick to judge i am breeding my mutt cause she makes great dogs and they will all get good homes. Im the futer i am gonna breed working dogs ( golden retrievers, aussies) both those breeds can br great fot many things. You need to stop fighting on here. Please and thankyou.



How will you ensure the puppies are healthy and have good temperaments? What do you think the temperaments of the pups will be?
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Re: Yur thoughts on pro dog breeding?

Postby PuffinMuffin » Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:28 am

I was asking your opinians on breeding pro like not breeding now and fighting with xena is not gonna help me.
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Re: Yur thoughts on pro dog breeding?

Postby Cardinal » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:33 am

How will you ensure the puppies are healthy, jullia, and have good sound temperments? What do you think the puppies temperment will be?

These are really simple questions that potential buyers may ask.
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Re: Yur thoughts on pro dog breeding?

Postby PuffinMuffin » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:49 am

Well for one alot like there mom. And me breeding is like 10 years in the futer things may be diffrent then
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Re: Yur thoughts on pro dog breeding?

Postby hounddogcopper » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:55 am

I'm a huge supporter of PROFESSIONAL breeding of registered and titles dogs. Breeding a mutt though? There is no reason to ever do so. In addition to my breeding pair of German Shepherd and my breeding pair of Malinois I also own a female Border Collie and a female Australian Shepherd. I bought my Aussie from a good breeder who did temperament and health testing. Unless you do that same you aren't a "Pro Breeder". I have nothing against mutts. I own a Perk eared collie / Boxer cross but I would never buy own or support the breeding of them.

"A lot like their mom" doesn't make a good dog. It doesn't even make an okay dog. I would hope that if you are doing this 10 years in the future that things ARE different. Do research, attend dog shows, talk to other breeders THEN think about breeding. Don't breed before you do any of that. It doesn't make you a "Pro Breeder" it makes you a "Backyard breeder" that does things for their own selfish reasons.
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Re: Yur thoughts on pro dog breeding?

Postby PuffinMuffin » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:59 am

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Re: Yur thoughts on pro dog breeding?

Postby kay. » Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:22 am

I am doing a conclusion:
I will breed Springers with Shepherds. I know cons and pros. It is 10-20 years, I will go to dog shows, talk to breeders, get their papers done, etc. If you think I am not a dog person, then why have I been doing research and begging for a dog for the 7 years? I am defiantly not a cat person, or even more defiantly not a human person. I will breed and do what I want.
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Re: Yur thoughts on pro dog breeding?

Postby hounddogcopper » Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:34 am

I love Springer Spaniels. I love German Shepherds even more. They are both AWESOME breeds. BreedS. Two separate dogs that have no business being mixed.

If you went to a dog show and told a German Shepherd breeder that you wanted to breed a Shepherd to a Springer (or vise versa) they will laugh you out of the show. Legit breeders have a HUGE no-no policy on Hybrid breeds. There is no reason to make more mutts when hundreds of them die in shelters everyday. There are no "papers" on hybrid mix dogs either. Papers are only for purebred dogs. Papers don't even mean you have a good dog, they just mean you have a purebred dog.

The fact that you say "I will breed and do what I want" doesn't make you a good breeder in the slightest. I avoiding breeding my dogs with those of breeders that have that attitude. I love a wrinkly bulldog as much as the next Butler Blue fan but there's no reason to make them so wrinkly (and hence unhealthy) just because "I do what I want screw you guys."

It's one thing if you are just in it for the money but since you stated that you are a dog person you should know better then to have the "I do it because I can" ideology.
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Re: Yur thoughts on pro dog breeding?

Postby Jazi » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:11 pm

Felicity&Jameson wrote:I love Springer Spaniels. I love German Shepherds even more. They are both AWESOME breeds. BreedS. Two separate dogs that have no business being mixed.

If you went to a dog show and told a German Shepherd breeder that you wanted to breed a Shepherd to a Springer (or vise versa) they will laugh you out of the show. Legit breeders have a HUGE no-no policy on Hybrid breeds. There is no reason to make more mutts when hundreds of them die in shelters everyday. There are no "papers" on hybrid mix dogs either. Papers are only for purebred dogs. Papers don't even mean you have a good dog, they just mean you have a purebred dog.

The fact that you say "I will breed and do what I want" doesn't make you a good breeder in the slightest. I avoiding breeding my dogs with those of breeders that have that attitude. I love a wrinkly bulldog as much as the next Butler Blue fan but there's no reason to make them so wrinkly (and hence unhealthy) just because "I do what I want screw you guys."

It's one thing if you are just in it for the money but since you stated that you are a dog person you should know better then to have the "I do it because I can" ideology.

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Also as someone who is involved in GSD politics (and some other breeds) I will tell you that each and every breed has its own laundry list of good and bad breeders that goes above and beyond the basic list Cardinal and Felicity have given you. GSDs for instance should be titled- but in bitesports and personal protection and police dog training, not in conformation, agility, or obedience. A conformation GSD to many is seen as a horrible corruption of the breed's true valor and strength and personality. Springers also come with their own dog politics regarding breeders... a Springer would do better to be titled in hunt tests and tracking, but not sch or other bitesports.

That means that these are two different dogs. GSDs the courageous warriors and Springers being the agile gun dogs. One hunts, one beats up bad guys. Two very different temperaments. GSDs and Springers have their own lists of health problems. I can list them all for GSDs off the top of my head, Springers I'd need to research a bit to get you the full list but I do know that hip, bone, joint, and tendon problems as well as cherry eye and blindness and Spaniel Rage Syndrome are all there as well. Testing for these genetic defects is expensive, and ignoring testing means you could very well be breeding carriers and affects that have an otherwise clean bill of health from the vet (that is, until suddenly a health problem rears its head).

My hunting family has spaniels, and Springers are one of their favorite breeds (Brittanies are the other). Trust me, those are veeeeeeeeeeery different dogs compared to the GSDs I had as a kid.
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