Fish Lovers 2.0

[Dakotak]

I have to agree with Grimace on this one. Why? Lets look at the tank itself and basic needs of jelly fish and some basic fish keeping knowledge.

How do you cycle that, better yet. Where is the filter? On the bowl model it does not seem to have one. Even with frequent waterchanges to keep the water quality good the jelly would probably not survive being taken out of the tank that many times. All they say to do is set up the tank,mix the salt and throw em in.

"The filtration demands of the jelly fish will resemble those of a reef tank. The water quality must be very good for your jellyfish to live well. Multiple skimming (surface and protein) is strongly suggested. Very effective biological filtration is important and ammonia content should be kept at the lowest levels humanly possible. Ammonia is known to neutralize the poison of a jellyfish’s sting, and is believed to harm a lot more than just the venom in a jellyfish."
Source: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/jellyfish/aquarium.php

Most jelly fish,including moon jellies, live in cold water. How do any of these tanks stay cold? The temp will easily fluctuate in a room and lets face it. That small tank is not really worth buying a chiller for.

Substrate provided with tank can trap jelly oral arms, leading to damage. Changing out the substrate is highly recommended for the long-term health of jellies.

Is a quote from the jelly fish art. If the gravel can harm them why even have it in the tank or even picture jellies in the tank with the gravel? Its not providing any filtration. This raises a red flag to me and is irresponsible on their part knowing it can harm an animal and promoting it anyways.

I would also like to point out this tank shown on the jelly fish art.com
http://www.moonjellyfish.com/products/eon-jellyfish-system
Jelly fish tanks need round or oval tanks with no corners, as stated they have no brains and use current to move. Again this is a red flag to me as them being irresponsible sellers.

Here is some links to jelly fish care and a few pages on jelly fish art reviews which talk about how terrible they are.

http://reefbuilders.com/2012/03/18/desktop-jelly-fish-tank-turns-sting-owners/
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2012/8/inverts

All in all, even for animal with no brain i think its cruel to keep em in a tank that is guaranteed to kill em.

Im glad this sparked some conversation though.

Grimace, im almost tempted to get you started on whale sharks in captivity. PM me sometime bout it. XD

[Grimace]

Grimace, im almost tempted to get you started on whale sharks in captivity. PM me sometime bout it. XD

Eh, its good for people to be aware of so i'll do it here.
A bunch of aquariums have been keeping whale sharks lately, because they bring in insane amounts of tourism. (they are really cool).
The problem is, absolutely none of them have the facilities for a whale shark. Sure the aquariums they are in are basically the largest ones on earth, but they still aren't big enough.
I used to be in contact with someone pretty high up the chain at a facility that has/had whale sharks. He didn't like thinking about them being there, because it was completely inappropriate.

I'll use the georgia aquarium as an example.
Their tank is 263' long x 126' wide x 30' deep
Georgia aquarium says this was "designed for 6 adult whale sharks. An adult whale shark is give or take around 40 feet. Keep in mind this is an animal that needs to be constantly swimming forward 24/7, and is used to an environment where they can basically swim forever without really needing to turn. That, and the tank isn't even as deep as an adult is long.
In any case, doesn't matter. They always die as juveniles.
(the record was euthanizing two within a couple months)

I've heard the problems stem from general stress, likely from being in close quarters with a ton of other animals 24/7, and also from not being fed properly/enough.

To be fair though, I've heard the georgia aquarium is one of the ones who takes better care of them.

[Dappled Sapphire]

Wow
I couldn't even imagen a whale shark in a tank
Some animals should stay in the wild *SMH*
Don't they basicly eat 24/7 too?

[Dakotak]

Wow
I couldn't even imagen a whale shark in a tank
Some animals should stay in the wild *SMH*
Don't they basicly eat 24/7 too?

From what I have read, basically since they are filter feeders.

I'm glad you posted Grimace. I never have liked whales, dolphins or sharks in tanks. It makes me sad since what they are in is basically a puddle compared to what they should be in.

[Grimace]

Wow
I couldn't even imagen a whale shark in a tank
Some animals should stay in the wild *SMH*
Don't they basicly eat 24/7 too?

Kind of. I'm sure theres periods of time where they're swimming in water where theres little/nothing for them to snag though.

[PeachFuzz]

What is the minimum tank size for a pipidae frog?

[.muse.]

What is the minimum tank size for a pipidae frog?

What kind of pipidea? Pipidea is the family, there's tons of frogs that fall in that family. Though most commonly found in pet stores is the African Dwarf Frog. If that's the kind you're looking into getting, it depends on if you're planning on keeping it with fish, or getting more than one. The absolute min is a gallon per frog. But honestly I'd do a couple gallons per frog. And if you're just keeping the frogs with no fish, try and get a more shallow wide tank than a standard tank. They are surface breathers and sometimes if the tank is too tall they have issues swimming up for air.

[PeachFuzz]

What is the minimum tank size for a pipidae frog?

What kind of pipidea? Pipidea is the family, there's tons of frogs that fall in that family. Though most commonly found in pet stores is the African Dwarf Frog. If that's the kind you're looking into getting, it depends on if you're planning on keeping it with fish, or getting more than one. The absolute min is a gallon per frog. But honestly I'd do a couple gallons per frog. And if you're just keeping the frogs with no fish, try and get a more shallow wide tank than a standard tank. They are surface breathers and sometimes if the tank is too tall they have issues swimming up for air.

African Dwarf, yes. I already have one and I wanted to know if the tank size was alright c: He's in a 25 gallon currently. Thank you <3

[Grimace]

What is the minimum tank size for a pipidae frog?

What kind of pipidea? Pipidea is the family, there's tons of frogs that fall in that family. Though most commonly found in pet stores is the African Dwarf Frog. If that's the kind you're looking into getting, it depends on if you're planning on keeping it with fish, or getting more than one. The absolute min is a gallon per frog. But honestly I'd do a couple gallons per frog. And if you're just keeping the frogs with no fish, try and get a more shallow wide tank than a standard tank. They are surface breathers and sometimes if the tank is too tall they have issues swimming up for air.

African Dwarf, yes. I already have one and I wanted to know if the tank size was alright c: He's in a 25 gallon currently. Thank you <3

The problem with dwarf frogs in actual aquariums, is keeping them in deep water is extremely hard for them unless your tank is PACKED full of plants, especially the surface.
In the wild they live in water thats full of mud/plants/leaves that is only maybe a couple inches deep. Them having to actually swim up to the surface like I see in a lot of tanks makes them really nervous, and is intensely exhausting for them.

In a setup with a couple inches of water and a ton of hiding sots though they can live up to a few decades. Neat frogs.

[PeachFuzz]

Oh.. It's not very tall and I don't fill it all the way up, though. It's the only tank I had when I rescued him. Yes, I rescued him. He came from someone I know who's kid had gotten him from a Grow a Frog kit. He was living in an inch of disgusting water in a half gallon bug box. It was terrible. I'm low on money right now so I can't buy him a new tank