Fish Lovers 2.0

[Dakotak]

This is depressing. lol

I'm sure it's fine, the tank is quite big, they are small compared to the tank.

I promise you they will out grow the tank really fast. My Red cap Oranda goldfish went from being a one half inch little scamp to a 2 and a half almost 3 inch bad girl that had doubled her weight in under a month.

The rule for fancy goldfish is 20 gallons for the first and 10-20 for every one you add after that. Double the size of the tank in filtration and 10x the size of the tank in GPH.

If they are commons,comets or shubukins you need 55 gallons for one then 15-20 for everyone you add after that.

You have to remember, goldfish come from carp. Carp are huge,messy fish. Fancy goldfish can get anywhere from 5 inches to 12 and can live up to 20+ years. The longest goldfish was a Red cap oranda and was 17 inches long.
Comets,commons and shubukins can get to a foot or longer and also live up to 20 years.

I highly suggest getting a bigger tank or returning them and getting a betta or something small, I hate to be brash but keeping them in that small a tank is wrong and will either kill them or they will live terrible lives beacuse they won't be able to out grow it, they will be stunted.

If you post pics of them we will be happy to help you I.D them and help you figure out a good home for them. In the end its up to you if you want to or not though.

[.Survivor.]

I love the look on the keepers face when you tell them that you want a specific Guppy. They look at you like "are you serious?" Then I get the joy of watching them try to get that particular guppy out of the tank and into a shipping container. Most of the time I'm like " just let me do it. I've caught fish way longer than you have." Lol

Although I have to admit, the PetSmart and Petco around wher with live...they know how to "handle" the fish when fishing them out with a net. They are fast at it and efficient at putting very little stress on the fish.

[Dakotak]

I love the look on the keepers face when you tell them that you want a specific Guppy. They look at you like "are you serious?" Then I get the joy of watching them try to get that particular guppy out of the tank and into a shipping container. Most of the time I'm like " just let me do it. I've caught fish way longer than you have." Lol

Although I have to admit, the PetSmart and Petco around wher with live...they know how to "handle" the fish when fishing them out with a net. They are fast at it and efficient at putting very little stress on the fish.

I hate it when chain petstores give me that look about goldfish and then ask me about my tank and look at me crazy caz its a 110 gallon.
I also always want to take over catching the fish. I have had employees drop the fish from the top of the bag all the way to the bottem only to land in 2 inches of water, then they get a huge cup full of water and just dump it on top of the fish. It drives me nuts.

[tinymoogle]

I only just got them TODAY and everyone's saying "Oh, that's too small return them." -_- This is exciting for me, don't keep saying that the tank is too small.

[Dakotak]

I only just got them TODAY and everyone's saying "Oh, that's too small return them." -_- This is exciting for me, don't keep saying that the tank is too small.

Hun, I know its exciting for you. I'm glad you love them but we are trying to help you enjoy them for as long as you can while keeping them healthy and happy. We aren't doing it to be mean or pick on you. But you are now responsible for the care and health of two lives. You can't expect to come on a fish topic, have bad conditions for your fish and the fish lovers ignore it. We are trying to help you and them from suffering. Like I said, its up to you what you want to do but we are a very outspoken group. So don't get upset at as for doing what we stay on this fourm to do. Help people keep their fish healthy.

[.Survivor.]

I don't know anything about goldfish, my specialty is guppies. Although I did have a 1 eyed ryukin once. He lived a happy life, he was smart too. I miss him. I gave my big tank away when he died. I tend to "rescue" deformed fish just to give them a better life and home cause I know the pet stores will just throw them away or kill them.

So far in my life I have rescued a 1 eyed Ryukin Goldie, a 1 eyed Black Popeye Goldie and a green Glowfish who's spine was deformed where it had a link in its back which made it look like a "Z". They lived happy, healthy lives for as long as I had them. I take them in cause no one else will and they turn out to live longer than at other of those species I have had. They were pretty smart too.

[tinymoogle]

My Dad said it is fine, the man in the fish shop said it is fine, if they outgrow it we'll get a bigger tank, I'm going to look after them and clean their tank, they will be fine. I have to go do homework now.

[Dakotak]

I don't know anything about goldfish, my specialty is guppies. Although I did have a 1 eyed ryukin once. He lived a happy life, he was smart too. I miss him. I gave my big tank away when he died. I tend to "rescue" deformed fish just to give them a better life and home cause I know the pet stores will just throw them away or kill them.

So far in my life I have rescued a 1 eyed Ryukin Goldie, a 1 eyed Black Popeye Goldie and a green Glowfish who's spine was deformed where it had a link in its back which made it look like a "Z". They lived happy, healthy lives for as long as I had them. I take them in cause no one else will and they turn out to live longer than at other of those species I have had. They were pretty smart too.

A girl on another fourm I go to has a one eyed goldfish and a goldfish with no eyes. They are oddly cool looking and its amazing how they have been able to adapt to not having sight.
Thanks for rescuing them. Its sad how some people treat fish like they can be throw away like trash.

[.Survivor.]

Yeah. I'm always on the look out for deformed or even injured fish, cause I know that I can give them a better chance at life than some pet shops. Thankfully I haven't found any deformed guppies yet....cause if I do, it's coming home with me. I wouldn't breed it of course, but it would have a happy life. XD

[WalkerNom]

How many gallons is your tank? : 10 Gallons
How many fish and what types are they? : Currently seven. 1 male elephant ear betta and 6 Neon Tetras
How long has it been running? : Um, a few weeks maybe?
Did you cycle it? : Of course!

Sorry, just wanted to fill out the form first! ^^
Well hello! My fish (mentioned above) have come down with Ick. x.x I keep a real close eye on my fish so luckily I caught it early. I first saw the white spots yesterday as well as some color loss. My betta has the worst of it though. As soon as I noticed it, I put the betta in a quarantine tank and the 6 neon tetras in another and have been changing the water like crazy hoping to help flush out the parasite a bit until I can get some treatment for them. Luckily we are going to the pet store later today. Gladly this morning when I took a look at them they have gained some color back, the Neon Tetras (who were acting a bit strange) were acting normally again and some of the white spots have even disappeared from my betta. I am relieved that there were no sudden deaths and it seems to be getting better but I know this is just the beginning.

And I know where the parasite came from because I keep their tank very clean and they were fine before I bought a Pleco. I made the mistake of not putting him in quarantine before adding him to the tank and not long after taking him out of the tank my other fish caught it. And here's the strange thing. Before I noticed my other fish getting the white spots, he was fine and swimming around happily (not showing any signs) before I left for school but when I returned home he was definitely dead :c It makes me feel bad that I didn't take the proper precautions and couldn't save him and now my other fish have to suffer for it. However, I know that common Plecos can grow to be 2 ft long and was trying to look for another home for him anyway (he was just a baby, only about 1.5 inches long).

I just wanted to know if any of you had any advice, think I'm going in the right direction since I don't have any treatment yet, or any recommendations...I really want them to survive this when I know it's not likely they pull though.

Also, I am looking into buying some snails to add to my tank (2 at most). And won't make the same mistake. They will be quarantined as well but I won't use treatment on them since some ick treatments contain ingredients that are harmful to snails.

Just so you all know, I do research whenever I'm thinking about adding to my tank (however the snails will be the last living addition).