People who consider their pets their babies!

[Jazi]

I have been told that the Tamaskan pictorial standard is also a good thing to go by when evaluating whether your dog is truly a hybrid. Except for extremely low content hybrids, most look very similar to wolves. The dog you posted just looks like a white GSD or mix.

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http://www.inetdesign.com/wolfdunn/ironwolf.html

It's not just his looks, I've grown up with dogs my entire life- a few labs, golden and a few Shepards. But none of them have ever been so wolf-like. He trots shockingly like a wolf. He pounces like a wolf and sometimes I catch him stalking the other dog then pouncing on her. He just acts very wolffish, as well as his looks. Plus he has disproportionate paws- simalar to wolves. I'll upload some more pictures of him tomorrow at a few different angles.

[Ruruskadoo]

http://www.inetdesign.com/wolfdunn/ironwolf.html

It's not just his looks, I've grown up with dogs my entire life- a few labs, golden and a few Shepards. But none of them have ever been so wolf-like. He trots shockingly like a wolf. He pounces like a wolf and sometimes I catch him stalking the other dog then pouncing on her. He just acts very wolffish, as well as his looks. Plus he has disproportionate paws- simalar to wolves. I'll upload some more pictures of him tomorrow at a few different angles.

Look, I'm sorry. I know it would be cool to be able to say your dog is part wolf, and it's hard to let go of that, and also it's pretty embarrassing and disappointing to have people come in and tell you your dog is just that- a dog. But he simply is not a wolf hybrid. If he has any wolf mixed in, it's a very small amount. He has no distinctly wolf-like features and in fact has a lot of features that are not anything like wolves. A dog's temperament does not mean they are a wolf. All sorts of breeds and individual dogs have drastically different temperaments and they behave differently.
I'm sorry, but he has absolutely no physical wolf characteristics, and you can't label him a hybrid based on how he behaves.

I understand your confusion. A lot of people have trouble distinguishing German Shepherd characteristics from wolf characteristics. It can be easy to make that mistake.

Can you tell which dog(s) is/are wolf hybrid(s) in the picture, and which is/are German Shepherds?

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I'm not just going by my guesses. My vet has told me she thinks he may be part wolf. So it's not just me. I know it's unlikely, but he just fits into that catagory when you sum everything up. He has a very wolffish brow. Germans are sharper while wolfs curve only slightly more. And Greg undercoat, bordering on whitish, but still grey. As well as behavior, movement patterns and general appearance.

Either all Germans or the middle is a fraction wolf.

[Jazi]

I'm not sure how these two dogs are supposed to have the same face...

Vets are not breeders and do not know breeds 100%. My vet made a passing comment about how Mocha, my chow mix, looks like a cute little fox. She doesn't actually think my dog is a fox, considering that's impossible, but she thinks she has fox qualities in her.

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I know that. But I've also asked people at the California wolf preserve (amazing place) and they said he looks like he might have some wolf in him.

And that dog seems to be a higher percentage wolf. (Probably a half mixed with full). I would not by any means call myself an expert, but I know a little about wolves and dogs. And yeti Definatly has some very wolf characteristics in both appearance and behavior.

And that photo- that dogs in the middle seems more husky and German than anything, but it could be wolf. It's hard to tell without seeing their paws and tails. So I'm just taking a educated hues s

[Ruruskadoo]

I'm not just going by my guesses. My vet has told me she thinks he may be part wolf. So it's not just me. I know it's unlikely, but he just fits into that catagory when you sum everything up. He has a very wolffish brow. Germans are sharper while wolfs curve only slightly more. And Greg undercoat, bordering on whitish, but still grey. As well as behavior, movement patterns and general appearance.

Either all Germans or the middle is a fraction wolf.

They're all purebred GSDs. About what your vet said, I agree with Jaz completely. Vets are experienced with the general medicine and such of the animal. They are often not good at a lot of the nuances with medical problems that are specific to a particular breed, let alone with distinguishing breed, and anyway, I doubt your vet treats many wolves. Your dog does not have a wolf face, a wolf shoulders, wolf ears, wolf nose, wolf feet, definitely not wolf eyes, wolf abdomen, wolf legs, or ANY distinct wolf characteristics. If you dog has any wolf at all, it's not very much.

In fact, your dog looks more in face and body shape like MY dog, who has often been compared in looks to a coyote, but never a wolf, than an actual wolf. I know you want to believe your dog is a wolf hybrid, but true verifiable wolf hybrids always show a good bit of wolf in them. Your dog is simply too dog-ish and not anywhere similar enough looking to a wolf to say wolf hybrid.

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I agree, he does not have wolf eyes- but he does have wolf feet, legs, fur, and body movements, as well as wolf shoulders. Again, those are two poor-quality pictures that don't really show much about him. But from what I have seen, he does have some wolf in him. I appreciate your guys' input, but you would have to meet him to tell. You were rather convincing until listing off the non-wolf features. Because half of those he has. Sorry.

[Ruruskadoo]

His feet look like GSD feet. His "brow" is in no way wolfish. He has too rounded a head and too sharp a stop for wolf. His shoulders are too narrow and the angle is different than what you see on wolf shoulders and legs. He looks to have too slim a body shape to be wolfish in body at all; he lacks the more muscular quality of a wolf. His coat is too short to be anywhere similar to that of a wolf except perhaps at the very height of summer, and even then he lacks the distinctive ruff. I haven't seen video of the movement, but as we've already said, you can very easily tell a high content hybrid when you see one. He is no high content hybrid.

It also comes down to the fact that wolf hybrids in areas where they are legal (or even where they're not) are usually sold for money. Most people who breed them KNOW they're wolf hybrids either because they did it intentionally or because their dog had an unplanned litter and the pups came out looking STRONGLY of wolf. They aren't terribly common, and you don't really get them too much not knowing they're hybrids. If you do not have either a dog that looks VERY wolfish, or confirmation that your dog is in fact a hybrid, you can't really state that he is. It's highly unlikely, especially considering the lack of physical resemblance, regardless how he acts.

Speaking of which, how does he act? How easy/hard was it to train him? How intelligent is he?

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He was not easy to train, but I worked hard when he was little and he knows the basics. But he dosent really understand if I try to teach him some complex ones now mud usually just grabs his toy and throws it at me instead. And he is very smart. We bought one of those puzzles where there are slots the treat is in and they slide it away to get to the great and he can complete those fairly easily. The first time he had some trouble, but after that he learned and was clever about it.

His brow is actually fairly wolffish, the photos I uploaded didn't even show the brow. And they showed akward angles of the feet, but the feet are wolf-like too. His coat is not as long as a wolf, but it is the same texture and longer than a GSD. He also does have the scruff. And a distinguish oboe darker mark right at the base of his tail, a little mark every wolf has no matter what the breed. For grey wolves its a black mark but for wolves with white fur it's a yellowish color, and he has that as well.