Wolves Deserve Rights! (Read, please)

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THIS IS A GREAT IDEA! WOLVES ARE TERRIBLE!
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5%
This is okay, I guess.
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2%
Meh.
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8%
You have a point.
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20%
YOU'RE RIGHT! THIS ISN'T FAIR TO ANYONE!
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41%
I hate you, Feather. I hate your GUTS.
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6%
Um...this is kind of worthy of a moment of thought.
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9%
Wow. You really ARE crazy.
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9%
 
Total votes : 64

Re: Wolves Deserve Rights! (Read, please)

Postby sroasha » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:30 pm

Before you choose your side, you have to looks at both sides.

Farmers and ranchers have their point. They're livelihood is being destroyed by wolves killing their livestock, though many times in isn't a wolf. Wolves know by now the dangers of hunting livestock, but some still target them. If it can be proved the animal was killed by a wolf, then the farmer will get paid some money. Hunters also fear that if wolf populations thrive, elk numbers will drastically go down. This will effect hunters who hunt these elk and deer.

However, if these ranchers go around telling people they don't know what they are doing when they say wolves should live, people will get offended and refuse to buy meat, which will also destroy livelihoods.

Wolves help keep things in balance, too. Without them pronghorns die off because of an increase in coyotes. Some trees will not grow in the same quantity because elk herds eat everything to the ground before it has the chance to grow. Wolves thin down the elk population, leaving the stronger elk because wolves normally target old, sick, or weak elks.

Wolves also are becoming very common in some areas, but still do not have a strong population in others. The not-as-strong populations still get targeted to be shot, and then they die out. And wolves are highly adaptable and intelligent, meaning they adapt like us. Soon they will know to avoid humans and their guns, and then that method will not work to save the livestock. What do we do then? It's better to learn to live along side them now rather than later. We need to learn how to compromise so that livestock doesn't get killed and nor do wolves. This will be up to us, since we are the ones who are providing the livestock for the wolves. Perhaps, like mentioned earlier, higher fences with wire or something underground to prevent digging? Scaring off wolves with something? [insertfailendinghere]

And, yes, I am a big fan of wolves and read the latest issue of NatGeo on "Wolf Wars".
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Re: Wolves Deserve Rights! (Read, please)

Postby chirp. » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:33 pm

sroasha wrote:Soon they will know to avoid humans and their guns, and then that method will not work to save the livestock.


They won't. Why? 'Cause they're usually dead before they relize there's even a gun or a human around.
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Re: Wolves Deserve Rights! (Read, please)

Postby iheartdogs0611 » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:35 pm

I HATE FEATHER"S GUTS!
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Re: Wolves Deserve Rights! (Read, please)

Postby sroasha » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:39 pm

FeatherLostForever wrote:
sroasha wrote:Soon they will know to avoid humans and their guns, and then that method will not work to save the livestock.


They won't. Why? 'Cause they're usually dead before they relize there's even a gun or a human around.



*realize [spelling freak luff<3]

That may be, but when pack wolves are disappearing after going to ranches, don't you think they would be more cautious?
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Re: Wolves Deserve Rights! (Read, please)

Postby MiniHorse » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:43 pm

I agree with you Feather, it is basically our own species fault that the wolf population is going down, almost everything is humanity's fault, like gobal warming etc. So why can't people just stop? I know it makes things easier, but if we're all lazy what's going to happen sooner or later? If EVERYONE in the world was just driving cars killing things and there weren't anymore animals because we killed them all illegally or legally, and now we have no food, because of humanity. I wish the world wasn't so stupid and stop doing things that hurt the enviorment, and animals too, I agree with the part about taking them off the endangered list and then they start killing them, which would bring them back to the endangered list, it would probably go repeatedly, which won't do a thing! I really think the people who are ruining humanity would just get more common sense(Not saying they don't have common sense) and stop ruining the world! Some hunting is fine though, to keep the world balanced and keep it fair, you can't have like 25 Bears on the endangered species and 25,000 deers on the non-endangered species, you would stop killing the bears, and go for the deers until the bear population grows enough to like 100,000,000 or whatever to actually start hunting them! At least let them grow double of their original size, that would be the best, but humanity HAS to kill the off the endangered list to make them endangered again! I really think humanity should really THINK about their choices again, and farmers, try getting "security" please, it'd probably work better if you don't have short gates and stuff, wolves can ram it down or something, it might cost more money, but it's better than having your lifestock going down and wolves being killed.


It MIGHT be Sarah Palin's fault. Even though hunting was in back then, she could change and change what she said, and STOP hunting wolves for now! Wait for the population to grow first!(Not saying that I want wolves to be hunted), but just WAIT! This animal IS part of the world, how woud you like it if humanity died because wolves said we had to be hunted and killed? What if they were smarter than us, have something more powerful than us?
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Re: Wolves Deserve Rights! (Read, please)

Postby MiniHorse » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:44 pm

iheartdogs0611 wrote:I HATE FEATHER"S GUTS!

Woah, that's a little rude to say out loud isn't it?
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Re: Wolves Deserve Rights! (Read, please)

Postby iheartdogs0611 » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:47 pm

MiniHorse wrote:
iheartdogs0611 wrote:I HATE FEATHER"S GUTS!

Woah, that's a little rude to say out loud isn't it?

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Re: Wolves Deserve Rights! (Read, please)

Postby sroasha » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:48 pm

MiniHorse wrote:
iheartdogs0611 wrote:I HATE FEATHER"S GUTS!

Woah, that's a little rude to say out loud isn't it?


I was gonna say something like that, though it is one of the poll options XD
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Re: Wolves Deserve Rights! (Read, please)

Postby chirp. » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:49 pm

Gawd, way to be a hater. :x Why the hell did you vote THAT?!?!?!
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Re: Wolves Deserve Rights! (Read, please)

Postby MiniHorse » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:52 pm

It's mean to say it out loud! Next time you should keep it to yourself, not saying that you should hate someone though
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