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[Cinereus]

Mokapi: Yeeees I actually do like jackal for you. I said on your RA that foxes might be an option and I was thinking of jackals too, but was wary because neither Steve nor Kate suggested them. o-O

Lol this is exactly what I thought. XD

Nice to meet you. :3

Ever since seven years ago, I would "see" him as an Appaloosa Mustang. Occasionally he would change, but he hasn't done so for at least three or four years now. ^^

Hello there. ^^ I'm Com and the daemon is Marius, a stable New Guinea Singing Dog. In case they haven't been linked yet, here a general mustang analysis, and a Kiger mustang. Thoughts? ^^

Thank you! 8D I'm gonna go do that with the jackal form...oh, maybe you know off the top of your head- for the jackal, the points I have in red (inaccuracies) are things like "often seen alone" (which I am outside of my boyfriend; if he's not here then I do travel by myself), "not very curious" (I like to know things, but I don't go out of my way to find them out. If I overhear them/am told straight, then okay...but I don't try and talk to people to get the info.), "you usually back down from confrontation if you feel it's not worth it" (any confrontations I get into are usually pretty huge; I don't start fights over just anything), and "keeping your head down is important to you" (I'm usually unnoticed enough anyway that I don't have to take the extra step), would you say that I need to chuck it as well?

Hm, these all don't seem like huge problems, except the last couple. As far as the last one, I'd then point you toward golden and black-backed jackals. Side-stripes just immediately came to mind because they're so paranoid, but all jackals tend to be like that. XD Goldens and black-backs are just a little more apathetic about who they rub the wrong way.

Okay, so I started looking at some dogs, and I actually had to stop for a bit - too much info for me to process at one time. I got all these tabs up - Azawakh, Carolina Dog, English Greyhound, Ibizan Hound, Irish Wolfhound, New Guinea Singing Dog, and Pharaoh Hound. And that's just how far I got so far. I'm currently in the process of narrowing them down, but a few of them really felt like me while reading them. The top three gotta be the Azawakh, Carolina Dog, and New Guinea Singing Dog.

Carolina Dogs are rather docile, and I'm not sure about Singers for you. This isn't me being "no my form >:(" you just don't seem a lot like me. A bit, yes, but not a lot. XD Azawakhs I think are the right direction.

[mokapi]

Hm, these all don't seem like huge problems, except the last couple. As far as the last one, I'd then point you toward golden and black-backed jackals. Side-stripes just immediately came to mind because they're so paranoid, but all jackals tend to be like that. XD Goldens and black-backs are just a little more apathetic about who they rub the wrong way.

Sorry if you're not in a reading mood, but in case you are here's the points exactly, and my rebuttals :3

-What people who assume you to be tough and feisty find somewhat appalling about you is your submissive nature. (I'm not really submissive unless the situation calls for it, but if it will get me what I want, I'll play along.)
-Commonly seen alone, it’s easy for people to assume that you’re quite the loner. (While I do often do things alone if I'm not with my boyfriend, at things like parties I dislike being alone in a corner because I've learned it gets you looked at quicker. I prefer to seat myself next to someone I know...doesn't mean I'll talk to them. xD Can be both red and black.)
- You’re not very curious an individual, after all. (If I overhear it, or someone just up and tells me, then I suppose I could be “curious”. I don't go out of my way for information, though, unless it pertains to me. Can be both red and black.)
-You usually back down if you feel a confrontation is not worth it. (I don't back down from fights...unless I'm entirely outnumbered/overpowered. And even then I bitch for days afterwards. At the same time, I don't get into confrontations over little things. Usually when I lash out over little things, I don't get messed with afterwards. Both red and black?)
-Keeping your head down is important to you. Some might assume you’re a coward, others might assume you’re simply a very cautious person. (I don't usually keep my head down...I put on displays of self-confidence in order to attempt to seem “bigger”. At the same time, I don't try to get attention; I don't talk unless someone approaches me, I don't go up to groups of people, I'm not loud/obnoxious...so in a way, perhaps subconsciously I do keep my head down? Red and black.)
-This might happen more in a family/friend context than with strangers, though, as you’re shy enough to never start fights with a stranger. (I'm more apt to start fights with a stranger, as it would lead to less stress later on. In this way I think I still keep to the “less stress is best” theme that I'm getting from jackals. So it's red, but I personally can see it as black.)

And, of course I just went ahead and added the whole analysis to my scribd. XD

I'm going to go look at goldens and black-backs now, but I'm reeeeeally leaning towards the side-striped, mostly because the inaccuracies can still be accuracies in some way or another :3

EDIT: Loving the golden jackal, but is there any way you could tell me the difference between that and the side-streaked?

For the golden, only the following didn't fit:
-You are the kind to desire and appreciate help.
-You can feel at home almost anywhere.
-You're the kind of person most people would fear, avoid, and pretend to dislike, but deep down they admire you more than you know.

In all fairness to the side-striped (still love them. u.u), the SS analysis was much more in-depth, and therefore there was a higher chance for incorrect points :3

[Cinereus]

EDIT: Loving the golden jackal, but is there any way you could tell me the difference between that and the side-streaked?

For the golden, only the following didn't fit:
-You are the kind to desire and appreciate help.
-You can feel at home almost anywhere.
-You're the kind of person most people would fear, avoid, and pretend to dislike, but deep down they admire you more than you know.

In all fairness to the side-striped (still love them. u.u), the SS analysis was much more in-depth, and therefore there was a higher chance for incorrect points :3

Read through it and could still definitely see other jackals for you. Side-stripes are the most conflict-avoidant and submissive of the jackals, whereas goldens for instance are more "STFU" and don't really care whose feathers they ruffle. They're more independent as well. Kate could probably give you a better rundown on the various traits (she's a settled golden jackal), but for the first, they appreciate help, but they also have an attitude of "I can do this better myself" unless they really need help (though this is kind of an assumption based on what I would do and the fact that pariah dogs and jackals are pretty close). Not sure for the second, but that connects to adaptability and all that jazz. For the third, jackals tend to be the kind of people who get a bad rap, but are admired for their forthrightness and attitude. If you've seen the show House, House is a golden jackal. XD

[mokapi]

Read through it and could still definitely see other jackals for you. Side-stripes are the most conflict-avoidant and submissive of the jackals, whereas goldens for instance are more "STFU" and don't really care whose feathers they ruffle. They're more independent as well. Kate could probably give you a better rundown on the various traits (she's a settled golden jackal), but for the first, they appreciate help, but they also have an attitude of "I can do this better myself" unless they really need help (though this is kind of an assumption based on what I would do and the fact that pariah dogs and jackals are pretty close). Not sure for the second, but that connects to adaptability and all that jazz. For the third, jackals tend to be the kind of people who get a bad rap, but are admired for their forthrightness and attitude. If you've seen the show House, House is a golden jackal. XD

Hmm, I can definitely see a switch then- not to continuously bombard you with questions, but...is the black-backed really the most social of the three, and are they -really- that humorous? Because a bunch of the intro to the black-backed is that they're known for their humor, etc. And I'm not like that, but only these didn't fit:

► You are frequently denied mercy. People just aren’t very compassionate when it comes to you. They seem to believe it you can make it through all odds and that somehow makes you invincible and infallible. And, of course, you’re not allowed to show feelings. Okay, now, this has two sides. You get through everything unscathed and then pretend it didn’t matter. You’re not terribly outspoken about your feelings, therefore people assume you don’t have any. And react weirdly when you show them.
► Known to be fairly charismatic. A charmer. A boot-licker. Whatever. This might be another reason for people to think you’re a coward.
► Bad boy/girl image. People might assume you always have your fingers in something. Normally, you haven’t, but you like that image and therefore keep your cool if they show you what they have. Hey, that’s an information you could use later on, after all.
► You’re probably renowned for your humour. And view of life. Unless you’re extremely careful, everyone will think you’re a morbid bastard. It’s true that you have black humour and it’s true you can be morbid if you desire to be. But other than people might think, you’re not always like that.
► Regardless of that, people tend to assume you’re a coward.
► You have a cruel humour. You were the class clown in school, but not the haha-class-clown. You made people look at each other in an embarrassed sort of way. As you grew up, you hopefully learned that people are touchy about race, the holocaust, sexuality and religion. =P
► You often have your head in the clouds.
► You don’t like to stay in one place.
► Contrary to popular belief, you know exactly where the literal line one shouldn’t cross is in most individuals. You tend to toe it, but almost never piss of an individual as hard that they have reason to attack back. (I cross those on occasion...)
► When you with your friends you might be so loud that people actively know your voice before anything else
► It can be said that you prefer to outnumber others before attacking.
► Street-smart, you can learn to be academically clever, but are unable to memorize things well unless they are repeated rather often.

Anyway, everything else (o.o; More than the side-striped- wth) fit. It looks like I'm healthy with several unhealthy traits (according to this, which has a couple different "unhealthy" lists).

Am I allowed to jump from jackal to jackal so quickly? >.> I'm such a nooooob.

[Aureus]

Hey Mokapi. ;D

Um, I have to say that I'm not too fond of jackals for you? There are certain things that don't match up. For instance, your general aggressive patterns. Jackals are quite tempermental and snarly, but they are still canines which rely on feeling people out to avoid confrontation. Reading the oponent and knowing when to stop before something crosses the line is a HUGE point for jackals. Goldens, for example, employ a special food-stealing technique called the yo-yo gambit (lawl). A jackal will move close to a hyena, which will lean over to snap at it. As it does so, a second jackal will rush for the food. The pair will keep doing this until one gets the meat. All of this depends on the jackal being able to judge the actions of the hyena and its partner. Besides this particular technique, jackals are always hanging around kills and trying to figure out who to chase off (vultures and some foxes) and who to avoid/trick (big cats and hyenas).
If you've ever seen the TV show House M.D., you'll notice that he almost never loses his cool. In arguments and confrontations, he makes jokes and mocking comments. I am the exact same way; even when fighting I try to reign myself in a little. If the person conceeds, can I make what I said seem like a joke so that I don't have to go through awkward apologies? If I say this or that, will I completely ruin this friendship forever? Like Winger (a coyote soul from TDF) mentioned a while back, I am very much aware of my insult-strength and I know that I can KILL if I want to. Yet I keep myself in control during even big arguments because that can be disasterous. All wild canines are experts at keeping social tension to the minimum. A canine that relies on teamwork with its packmates absolutly has to learn to avoid big social conflicts.

Aaaaand what I was getting to was that I you seem much more straightforwardly aggressive than I see any wild canine being, especially one with a lot of enemies like the jackal. You don't seem to have the same method of keeping your cool and thinking things through during a fight. Of course, that doesn't mean that jackals aren't meanies, its just that our minds are always watching and thinking "is it a good idea to say this?" The way you describe your fightin style and lack of a certain amount of caution doesn't seem to match up.

Whew. That was a lot o'typing. Does this make sense? There were a few other things that I thought were off, but that was the main thing that came to mind.

Edit: BBJ's are actually the least social of them all. ;D They are all socially flexible to a certain degree though. And yes, humor is a big point for the jackals. Jacks tend to use humor to...express themselves, in every way. If I'm angry, make a joke. Scared, make a joke. Happy, make a joke. Etc etc. They are really creepy and offensive joke, but humor nonetheless.

[Hyaenidae]

Okay, so I started looking at some dogs, and I actually had to stop for a bit - too much info for me to process at one time. I got all these tabs up - Azawakh, Carolina Dog, English Greyhound, Ibizan Hound, Irish Wolfhound, New Guinea Singing Dog, and Pharaoh Hound. And that's just how far I got so far. I'm currently in the process of narrowing them down, but a few of them really felt like me while reading them. The top three gotta be the Azawakh, Carolina Dog, and New Guinea Singing Dog.

Carolina Dogs are rather docile, and I'm not sure about Singers for you. This isn't me being "no my form >:(" you just don't seem a lot like me. A bit, yes, but not a lot. XD Azawakhs I think are the right direction.

Docile like.. calm? Eh, I can be calm if I want to... I just don't want to! I get the worst of the emotional spectrum, like when I'm mad I'm MAD and when I'm sad I'm really sad and when I'm nervous... Well, you get the idea. I try to be relatively calm on the outside but it's hard to do that when I'm excited or happy or mad. I should try to work on that.
Yeah, a bit of the Singer analysis didn't fit, but the other ones fit even less.
I looked at a few other ones too. The best were the Thai Ridgeback, Anatolian Shepherd, and Basenji. So it's a toss-up between those three and the Azawakh, then? Ah well, at least for now.

[acciobadger]

Thank you everyone for the warm greetings. <3

Welcome to our new members! I'm Wendigo and my daemon is a settled Crocotta named Cyrus.

We will question your form/settlement status. It's what we do because we're scary analytical.

Question to our new members: What specific personality traits make you think your form fits you? Unfortunately "s/he never changed" really doesn't fly. Browse around the analysis index on TDF or read Steve's super-dee-duper essay on settling here.

Ah, thank you, I'll look into it. ^^
-runs off to read-

Nice to meet you. :3

Ever since seven years ago, I would "see" him as an Appaloosa Mustang. Occasionally he would change, but he hasn't done so for at least three or four years now. ^^

Hello there. ^^ I'm Com and the daemon is Marius, a stable New Guinea Singing Dog. In case they haven't been linked yet, here a general mustang analysis, and a Kiger mustang. Thoughts? ^^

Ah, well, based on those, the first is a very nice fit. :3
The second is a bit off on several points, but still relatively correct in general I suppose.

Hmf. Not on the "You've got a sense of grace- "seemingly effortless beauty or charm of movement, form or proportion". You and I've got about as much grace as a blind elephant with three legs.

[Cinereus]

Read through it and could still definitely see other jackals for you. Side-stripes are the most conflict-avoidant and submissive of the jackals, whereas goldens for instance are more "STFU" and don't really care whose feathers they ruffle. They're more independent as well. Kate could probably give you a better rundown on the various traits (she's a settled golden jackal), but for the first, they appreciate help, but they also have an attitude of "I can do this better myself" unless they really need help (though this is kind of an assumption based on what I would do and the fact that pariah dogs and jackals are pretty close). Not sure for the second, but that connects to adaptability and all that jazz. For the third, jackals tend to be the kind of people who get a bad rap, but are admired for their forthrightness and attitude. If you've seen the show House, House is a golden jackal. XD

Hmm, I can definitely see a switch then- not to continuously bombard you with questions, but...is the black-backed really the most social of the three, and are they -really- that humorous? Because a bunch of the intro to the black-backed is that they're known for their humor, etc. And I'm not like that, but only these didn't fit:

Anyway, everything else (o.o; More than the side-striped- wth) fit. It looks like I'm healthy with several unhealthy traits (according to this, which has a couple different "unhealthy" lists).

Am I allowed to jump from jackal to jackal so quickly? >.> I'm such a nooooob.

Steve is a (crisising?) black-backed jackal, so yes, they are that humorous, though I'm not sure about social. XD And based on those things that don't fit I'd say golden jackals are probably a better bet. Or it's possible you could be an unhealthy black-backed jackal, which would probably cut down on the humor and sociability - unhealthy not nescessarily being a bad thing, just that it gives more room for extremes. And of course you are allowed to switch. They're close enough to each other that if my lurking serves me correctly many of the jackals around the forum had trouble choosing between them. XD

Edit: Ninja'd by Kate. She pretty much expressed the reservations I had about jackals for you, and she knows a lot more about them than I do. XD I also am still not sure about you being hierarchical enough/in the right way.

Docile like.. calm? Eh, I can be calm if I want to... I just don't want to! I get the worst of the emotional spectrum, like when I'm mad I'm MAD and when I'm sad I'm really sad and when I'm nervous... Well, you get the idea. I try to be relatively calm on the outside but it's hard to do that when I'm excited or happy or mad. I should try to work on that.
Yeah, a bit of the Singer analysis didn't fit, but the other ones fit even less.
I looked at a few other ones too. The best were the Thai Ridgeback, Anatolian Shepherd, and Basenji. So it's a toss-up between those three and the Azawakh, then? Ah well, at least for now.

Yeah, I'd say no to Carolina Dogs then. I researched them a lot, and what I kept noting was that they're completely conflict avoidant and nice, at least as far as I could see. ^^

Edit:

Hmf. Not on the "You've got a sense of grace- "seemingly effortless beauty or charm of movement, form or proportion". You and I've got about as much grace as a blind elephant with three legs.[/center][/size]

"Grace" can also be interpreted in terms of thought. Do you have a graceful way of thinking, or do you jump awkwardly from one thought to another? ^^

[acciobadger]

In both terms, I'm rather choppy. I tend to leave my thoughts wandering, unless I'm really very determined.

She's horrible at having complete thoughts. Really. She sucks at it.

Tae...

I shall tell no lies.

[creativeCoyote]

Bluh bluh did I hear tayra and bros and awesome shades?
Yeah I'm alive, sup guys. I keep forgetting this place because I'm a FAAAAILURE.
What'd I miss? C:

Also, MeiTay, you should PM me to talk tayras, even though I think we already sort of did on TDF?
Let's continue that conversation here, shall we? :3

I are grounded till June >.<*

But... how are you posting if you're grounded? xD?

ALSO.
Belated welcome to all the new members. <3