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Re: Doctor Who Fan Club!

Postby Cap'n Rose » Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:07 pm

Hi! My name is Rosepaw! I want to Join!
My favorite doctor is: Tenth
My favorite companion is: Sarah Jane Smith
My favorite episode is: Silence in the Library
I have watched up to: I need to see the last episode of this season. Tick tock goes the clock, till River kills the Doctor...
And finally, I am from *Insert country here. COUNTRY ONLY PLEASE*. USA, but im english.
I have read the rules and promise to follow them.
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Re: Doctor Who Fan Club!

Postby dragons.inc. » Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:26 pm

I have two theories to what the question might be, but "The Wedding of River Song" proved one of them wrong. But the question can't be the Doctors name, he knows his name. And I'm sure Moffat would never use something that obvious anyway.
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Re: Doctor Who Fan Club!

Postby Atwood » Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:28 pm

"Doctor who?" doesn't actually make much sense as a question - his chosen name *is* 'the Doctor'; it's not a title that would be followed by his real name. It would be like asking "Atwood who?" or "Scarf who?"; there's no 'who' to add on to it because that is the entire name in itself and there is no sensible answer to it for him apart from "Just... the Doctor", which he's said several times before. Now, if the question was "what is your true name?" that would be something different, because he does have a hidden real name. Except that name was already known to several people (though never the viewers), but the Fourth(?) Doctor purged his name from the Time Lord records and destroyed all traces of it. I don't know why; maybe it was just really embarrassing, like Algernon Humperdinck or something. But since River has already been seen speaking the Doctor's name aloud, it seems that saying it doesn't cause universal destruction or anything like the Silence were thinking it would. The question would have to be specifically asking for his true name, too, since he does have a given name - he was called Theta Sigma in his youth before he took the name 'Doctor', when he was part of the Deca with the Master (Koschei) and the Rani (Ushas).

In 'The Shakespeare Code', one of the witches tried to name the Doctor and couldn't because "There is no name. Why would a man hide away his title in such despair?" The general sense of that scene was that he was ashamed to use his name, but there was no 'because if I say my name the whole universe will collapse and burn'. Even if it had been that, they do tend to overexaggerate dangers on Doctor Who. "If she ever remembers me, her mind will burn and she will *die*! ... Okay, she'll fall sleep for a bit and then be fine." "There's absolutely no way for me to escape death this time, no regeneration, no way to get out of it, fixed point in time, I absolutely must die at that time and place... Or I can hide in a robot and have it play dead for a bit. Same diff." Anyway, no previous indications of doom falling should the Doctor ever speak his real name.

In 'Silence in the Library', the Doctor said there was only one time he could tell his real name to someone, which was how he knew he could trust River; presumably that only time was in the wedding ceremony, where it seemed that telling her his real name was important. However, he didn't tell River his name then (which makes sense, since he was actually in the Tesselector talking through a mic in front of about fifteen other people, so not the most private setting). It's possible that because it was technically the robot who was being bound to River and not the Doctor physically, he wouldn't have been able to say his name then anyway. Of course, this means that River and the Doctor are probably not actually married at this point (and why did he do the wedding ceremony in the first place if his only goal was to let River in on his plan to use the Tesselector? Couldn't he have just said he had something in his eye and asked her to take a look?). They would have to get married for real later on for him to tell her his name, unless she was with him on the plains when the question was asked and heard his name there when he was forced to answer.

As you might be able to tell, I wasn't the biggest fan of the conclusion to that particular storyline. X3 River seemed completely unnecessary to the whole thing, since her sole contributions to the Silence's plot were:

1) kissing the Doctor with poison lipstick. No need to steal a infant, turn her into a psychopathic Time Lord and raise her as an assassin for that; the Doctor will kiss *anyone*.
2) being inside an astronaut suit that was fully automated and self-guided anyway and did all the work on its own, with River actually just getting in the way of the job. That didn't even require a sentient being, let alone the whole stolen psychopathic Time Lord baby thing.

The Tesselector thing really wasn't a satisfactory solution to me - it just seemed like cheating, even more than if he'd had the ganger Doctor take his place as some theorized. That could have actually been a good moral dilemma for the Doctor if the ganger Doctor offered to take his place or even insisted on it, and the Doctor had to choose whether to die or do exactly what he previously castigated others for and allow his ganger to die to protect himself. Naturally, he refuses, the ganger forces his decision, takes his place and dies; resulting angst carries over for at least two seasons and the Doctor vows to change his ways to stop innocents being hurt in his place (and maybe actually does it this time, at least for a little bit). Instead, we get a robot and the whole big death of the Doctor basically becomes a joke. It's somewhat similar to the ending of 'Journey's End' in that Donna made a joke of the Daleks with spinning them around and having them crying "Help! Me!" in dismay, but that episode ended with a couple of big emotional sucker punches to the gut (first the Doctor clone blowing up all the Daleks, thus committing genocide again, and then Donna's memories being wiped). Having a blue disembodied head yelling "Doctor who?" doesn't have quite the same impact. The episode just seemed to fizzle out to me.

And we still don't know why the TARDIS blew up in Season Five, which means this storyline is going to go on for yet another season. =.= I'd probably be more interested if I liked River more, but I've just never warmed up to the character. She has some good moments, but frankly she's somewhere around Mickey and Rose in the ranking of 'Companions I Want to See More Of', which is pretty far down there. Speaking of companions I wish there'd been more of: Aww, Brigadier. ;_; That was the emotional peak of the episode for me, when the nurse said "He always poured a second brandy in case you dropped by," and the Doctor's face as it really sinks in that he never got around to visiting the Brigadier and now never would again. :C

I do have to admit I loved the Amy/Rory bits in the finale, especially, "We got married and had a kid and that's her." X3 Also, the Silence saying, "Rory Williams, the man who dies and dies again." Really everything to do with Rory in that episode. <3 And of course, "I'm his... mother-in-law..."

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Re: Doctor Who Fan Club!

Postby Cap'n Rose » Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:36 pm

Is that... a Spoiler...?
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Re: Doctor Who Fan Club!

Postby dragons.inc. » Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:09 pm

Well the question "Doctor Who?" probably doesn't mean that literally. This time shattering question Is supposed to be "hidden in plain sight" and is a question that has been asked for centuries(that might no be exactly what was said...) I at first thought the question would be "when will I die?" because it is something that would fit into the clues. But thinking about it, The Doctor would probably know he was about to die when he got there, so asking how or when he dies would be redundant because he already knows that. At the end of the episode, though, something occurred to me as the head was shouting Doctor Who. What if the Doctor doesn't really know who he is. Looking back he seems to really struggle with what is "right" and what is "wrong" and what is "best". He can generally flip between these sides and I think he, like many other people doesn't know who he really is. "Who am I?" is a question that fits the clues perfectly.. What do you think?
About River, well I think she was supposed to be much more useful to the Silence than she turned out to be. She changed her mind not to follow orders and fell in love with the Doctor, thus rendering herself useless. I like her, but I can see why you don't.
One more thing. I haven't been following the show for very long, so I was a bit confused when the Doctor called.. Whoever he did. What was the importance of the man that passed away? Just wondering, it seemed very important to the Doctor..
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Re: Doctor Who Fan Club!

Postby Cap'n Rose » Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:13 pm

Musn't... read.....
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Re: Doctor Who Fan Club!

Postby Noxly » Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:38 pm

*Twitches* Can't read it... Must... Resist... o.o
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Re: Doctor Who Fan Club!

Postby Cap'n Rose » Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:39 pm

*begins Staring contest with Weeping Angels* darn your avatar....
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Re: Doctor Who Fan Club!

Postby .:Adelaide:. » Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:44 pm

RosePaw wrote:*begins Staring contest with Weeping Angels* darn your avatar....

No one ever said welcome to you! So HI! Oh, and don't blink. *glances at signature*

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Re: Doctor Who Fan Club!

Postby Noxly » Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:46 pm

Mwahahaha! Blink. I dare you.
Oh, and I was just thinking, we have someone called Amy Pond, The Doctor, Weeping Angels... Someone go change their user to Rory Williams >:D

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