The Daemian Union (TDU) V2 (POSTING OPEN!)

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Re: The Daemian Union (TDU) V2 (POSTING OPEN!)

Postby Vargulf » Tue May 22, 2012 12:11 am

oh ok thanks for the info was a really interesting read.
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Re: The Daemian Union (TDU) V2 (POSTING OPEN!)

Postby Bearsy <3 » Tue May 22, 2012 4:03 am

On TDF it's often quite common to call random imaginary friends 'headmates', which I believe [correct me if I'm wrong] is what Magpie. was referring to. :3
I think this is considered incorrect though, but I'm going to leave it here in the hopes that someone who has a better grasp of this can chime in before I say something wrong and add to the confusion.
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Re: The Daemian Union (TDU) V2 (POSTING OPEN!)

Postby Mewsly » Tue May 22, 2012 4:14 am

You weren't told you needed help, Marwari. You were suggested the possibility of a therapist because you seemed to be experiencing depersonalisation (feeling like you are watching yourself act but not being able to have control in the situation) and psychosis (because you mentioned the belief that someone who was very violent was capable of taking over your body, and your speech is semantically disconnected). Neither of these things make you 'crazy', like I think you thought you were being told, but they are the kind of thing people might want to talk to someone about. There's nothing wrong with therapists, they're there to talk, not label you crazy. I know many people with therapists.

That aside, what Aira mentioned isn't what a headmate is. A headmate is someone other than yourself who shares your head/brain/etc. They're not any form of 'split personality', being separate from you in that they are their own person, and having a headmate/headmates doesn't = DID (dissociative identity disorder). TDF 'headmates' are different than the headmate phenomenon. I'll quote Slinkypants because she described it well:

Slinkypants wrote:As far as I'm aware, and someone more knowledgeable can correct me, there's kind of two definitions of headmate. Loosely, it's a person that lives in your head. A few years ago in the daemon community, daemons were considered a type of headmate because we broadly used it to mean 'mental constructs' or 'imaginary friends' of any type. I think that definition was pretty much limited to us, though. More widely, it's used to mean actual people that share a body with you, and which sometimes can take over your body, like DID/MPD but not harmful because it generally involves consent and no memory loss. There is a concept called multiplicity, which means when several separate persons share a body and mind, and those persons are referred to as headmates or multiples. I used to describe myself as having headmates, back in the day, but dropped that term when I realised the connotations outside of TDF, as I don't believe my mental constructs are in any way separate from me. But for multiples, the experience is different. Connected to headmates is 'headspace', which is like an environment inside your head that your headmates might live, or that you might go to when your headmates are 'fronting' (using your body). I kind of like to use headspace just to mean the little imaginary area I automatically go to when I imagine my characters, though. And there's also 'soulbonds', but I've never quite grasped how they're different from headmates.
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Re: The Daemian Union (TDU) V2 (POSTING OPEN!)

Postby Slinkypants » Tue May 22, 2012 4:28 am

Yeah, I should say that I dislike associating DID with headmates/multiplicity, and it's not the same thing for all the reasons mentioned above. It's just one of the easiest ways to get the idea across to those who've never heard of the concept of multiplicity because they usually HAVE heard of DID.
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Re: The Daemian Union (TDU) V2 (POSTING OPEN!)

Postby emmiedee » Tue May 22, 2012 5:03 am

I call my headmates, headmates for lack of a better term. I don't have MPD and I'm not multiple beings either. My 'headmates' are imaginary friends, who I consider just a figment of my imagination to entertain me and play with me. I'm in control of what they do and don't do. Their usually OC's or just random animals I decide to project with Oaen just to play around.


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Slinkypants wrote:And there's also 'soulbonds', but I've never quite grasped how they're different from headmates.


Soulbond are usually media characters that you feel connected to in one way or another. Whether you think you'd be their best friend, or you can relate to their experiences, ect.

Link Above wrote:Q: What's the difference between SoulBonding and Multiplicity anyway?
A: Generally speaking, in a SoulBonding relationship, there is one person (the SoulBonder), who controls the body (known as "fronting") and one or more SoulBonds, who stay "in the background" and may talk to or influence the SoulBonder, but cannot (or do not) have control over the body. In a Multiple system, there are many individuals within the body who have equal ability to front (not all people in a Multiple system may be able to do it, but at least two can). These are just rough waypoints, and there are many degrees of existence between the two.


EDIT 2: Darn auto-correct D:<



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Re: The Daemian Union (TDU) V2 (POSTING OPEN!)

Postby Vargulf » Tue May 22, 2012 5:17 am

oh I see well in that case then the term is used loosely because it doesn't always associate with DID...and about that i didn't mean it in that sense.. But I'm not going to elaborate on it.. I'll just learn to choose my words more carefully next time. ;)
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Re: The Daemian Union (TDU) V2 (POSTING OPEN!)

Postby shadow; » Tue May 22, 2012 6:55 am

I think we should get back on topic of daemons. We don't wanna get this awsome Union locked, now do we? I don't think we do, as interesting as headmates are.

I was bathing my dog, and wanted to take advantage of trying new forms. Ritz has never been a salmon before. he was also one of those tiny fish you put on pizza, I forget the name.
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Re: The Daemian Union (TDU) V2 (POSTING OPEN!)

Postby Solarizing » Tue May 22, 2012 7:47 am

Shadow.Blu wrote:I think we should get back on topic of daemons. We don't wanna get this awsome Union locked, now do we? I don't think we do, as interesting as headmates are.

I was bathing my dog, and wanted to take advantage of trying new forms. Ritz has never been a salmon before. he was also one of those tiny fish you put on pizza, I forget the name.


Sardine c:

Hmm... I've never really projected Chi while swimming; I'll try it out this summer. >:)

How often do your guys' dæmons change forms? Mine doesn't really change except at night, when he'll sometimes become a fennec fox.
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Re: The Daemian Union (TDU) V2 (POSTING OPEN!)

Postby Mewsly » Tue May 22, 2012 7:51 am

Solardream wrote:
Shadow.Blu wrote:I think we should get back on topic of daemons. We don't wanna get this awsome Union locked, now do we? I don't think we do, as interesting as headmates are.

I was bathing my dog, and wanted to take advantage of trying new forms. Ritz has never been a salmon before. he was also one of those tiny fish you put on pizza, I forget the name.


Sardine c:

I thought anchovy.

Has anyone tried form exchange? We have a thread on TDF (for those of you who aren't on TDF already) where members will go in and offer up forms to trade so people's daemons can try them out.
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Re: The Daemian Union (TDU) V2 (POSTING OPEN!)

Postby shadow; » Tue May 22, 2012 7:55 am

Solardream wrote:How often do your guys' dæmons change forms? Mine doesn't really change except at night, when he'll sometimes become a fennec fox.


BROPAW. Ritz now loves you for becoming one! XD Oh, our narrow minded thoghts somtimes.

Well, Ritz has been a doberman, a lab, a sardine, a fennec fox(most often), a ferret, and a corn snake.
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