The Daemian Union (TDU) V2 (POSTING OPEN!)

[Slinkypants]

Marwari Horse: If you're past your teens it's a safe bet that you've got the consistent personality down, but it can take some time to get used to examining your behaviours the way we do it. It's not always obvious which behaviours are relevant, for instance. Also, understand that you're unlikely to end up fitting something that you expect from the start, and that 'feelings' about forms rarely work out (and are lucky guesses if they do). Lots of people seem to feel a connection with wolves and big cats, but I think the most frequent forms are domestic dogs. So try to go into form finding with an open mind, and don't take it personally if the community questions and challenges you: that's just our way and always has been, because it's the best way to help people get the best results objectively. I wish people had challenged me over the form I had in my teen years, because I could have done some useful personality-searching instead of sitting pretty thinking I knew my form and that was it (turns out, I was wrong).

When it comes to your daemon, though - remember, it's shape is nothing to do with the form that fits you - it can be anything you like, and called anything you like. If you can't think of a name yet, just call it a placeholder until you can decide on one. You can always change it later!

Pinkie Dash: As far as I'm aware, and someone more knowledgeable can correct me, there's kind of two definitions of headmate. Loosely, it's a person that lives in your head. A few years ago in the daemon community, daemons were considered a type of headmate because we broadly used it to mean 'mental constructs' or 'imaginary friends' of any type. I think that definition was pretty much limited to us, though. More widely, it's used to mean actual people that share a body with you, and which sometimes can take over your body, like DID/MPD but not harmful because it generally involves consent and no memory loss. There is a concept called multiplicity, which means when several separate persons share a body and mind, and those persons are referred to as headmates or multiples. I used to describe myself as having headmates, back in the day, but dropped that term when I realised the connotations outside of TDF, as I don't believe my mental constructs are in any way separate from me. But for multiples, the experience is different. Connected to headmates is 'headspace', which is like an environment inside your head that your headmates might live, or that you might go to when your headmates are 'fronting' (using your body). I kind of like to use headspace just to mean the little imaginary area I automatically go to when I imagine my characters, though. And there's also 'soulbonds', but I've never quite grasped how they're different from headmates.

[Vargulf]

I am actually gonna do so since I have no idea what to expect since I found out I have ghost who is my therian and then I have Dameon who is my otherkin... Just a question is it possible that one doesn't have a Daemon?

[Slinkypants]

I am actually gonna do so since I have no idea what to expect since I found out I have ghost who is my therian and then I have Dameon who is my otherkin... Just a question is it possible that one doesn't have a Daemon?

What do you mean a daemon that 'is your otherkin'? And yes, of course, you only have a daemon if you choose to create one.

[Vargulf]

no my otherkin name is Dameon (Damien) others spell it that way in parentheses but he told me his name and really didn't know how to spell it so it stuck lol... Oh ok well i can see that this is a hard decision to make.. No wonder people struggle to find out what they are.

[Reynardine]

no my otherkin name is Dameon (Damien) others spell it that way in parentheses but he told me his name and really didn't know how to spell it so it stuck lol... Oh ok well i can see that this is a hard decision to make.. No wonder people struggle to find out what they are.

So are you saying that your daemon's name is the same as your personal otherkin name? I don't see any problem in that. Just remember that it's extremely unlikely that your therian/otherkin form is the same as your settled form. Your therian/otherkin self probably isn't the same as the animal form that represents your personality. It's fine to have your daemon take that form, but it probably isn't your settled/stable/one-true form.

[Slinkypants]

Ohh I understand, sorry, I misread.

[Coseylion]

Hello, I think posted here a while back. Even though I've read about and researched Daemons, I'm still pretty new to the whole thing. Any helpful tips on how to start talking with your Daemon? ^^.

[emmiedee]

Hello, I think posted here a while back. Even though I've read about and researched Daemons, I'm still pretty new to the whole thing. Any helpful tips on how to start talking with your Daemon? ^^.

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I started out using a journal, recording out conversations in the beginning. But eventually it got to hard to write down every little thing hei said because hei's quite the chatterbox. Although I highly recommend using a journal or even just loose leaf paper at first.

I assume you've read this but;

3) How do I talk to my dæmon?
Once you get acquainted with your dæmon, you might discover that you've always been talking to them, or at least them to you. Everyone communicates with their "dæmon" on a subconscious level, either in the form of working through dilemmas or chiding themselves, or otherwise carrying on an internal dialogue. Knowing your dæmon just makes these conversations more direct. You'll start recognizing which words are your dæmon's and which are your own; you'll find what was a fleeting mental note was actually a comment of theirs. Remember, he or she is the other end of your internal dialogue-- that faint voice that you didn't give much thought to. No matter how quickly an answer springs to your mind when you ask yourself a question, the responding thought may be what we consider the dæmon. (May be because it is possible to conduct mental conversations without your dæmon.) To speak with him or her in a more conscious way, it's helpful to project their animal form (which is explained above).

A lot of people make this harder than it is. I repeat: Your dæmon is you. You already know each other inside and out before you even have your first true conversation. He or she knows your friends as well as you do, knows your most embarrassing moment, knows all your secrets and silent hopes... Just like you wouldn't presume to "mishear" your mental voice, you cannot mishear your dæmon. The difficulty for most people simply comes in the birth of this new-found relationship, and over-thinking every word due to the novelty, instead of letting it come as a natural stream of conscious. If you try to see the animal form as your dæmon speaks and give it time, it should eventually come naturally to both of you. "Talking" to your dæmon means acknowledging the subtle dialogue going on in your mind, and letting that other voice develop its own persona so as to better understand yourself.

Note: In case it's unclear, it's not necessary to visualize your dæmon in order to speak to them. I just figured that's the best way for beginners to learn to distinguish between their dæmon's voice and their own mental one. I've also seen it recommended that you give your dæmon a voice or accent markedly different from your own to help in this.

And to give some examples... The dæmon is often that voice yelling something like "You friggin' idiot!" after you've done wrong, the faint voice that seems to whisper "C, C" before you circle it on a test, or sometimes the voice that snarls nasty things to someone when you yourself keep shut. They may be that voice of conscience urging you to eat a banana instead of chocolate. Point is, you've heard them before. The dæmon may not make itself known because they don't see themselves as separate until you yourself make that distinction.

[Vargulf]

yes Dameon has been around longer than Ghost but Dameon is a tasmanian maneless lion he walks on either twos ore all fours so i say otherkin since it seems unrealistic that lions walk on twos

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Hello, I think posted here a while back. Even though I've read about and researched Daemons, I'm still pretty new to the whole thing. Any helpful tips on how to start talking with your Daemon? ^^.

Say you were getting up. In your head you'd be thinking, 'That's my alarm.. Gotta get up.. Gotta get dressed.. Where are my shoes? Oh there they are.'

With your daemon it would be, 'That's my alarm.. Yeah so you gotta get up now and get dressed! Where are my shoes? There they are!'

Atleast, that's how I started talking to Sim ^ - ^

Also, try writing a convo down trying to imagine what your daemon would say ^ - ^

Shei/hei will need a name! I went on an unusal name website and Similien just stood out to me!

(Daring Do is so awesome btw xD)