The Daemian Union (TDU) V2 (POSTING OPEN!)

[Cacti]

I figured as such. The animal in question is a serval, which can take albino and melanistic forms in addition to their normal coat. The animal itself fits me, but I find the black and white color forms aesthetically pleasing, so I was wondering if there were any subtle differences.
Thank you.

[Tibetador]

Aaah, remember that the form you project/choose to imagine your dæmon as is separate from and not related to your form, i.e. the animal-based personality type/personality descriptor. :]

Not everyone agrees with this view...some people see their projected form and their settled form as one and the same. But color has little to do with it beyond what works for you. I once knew a tibbie person whose daemon was a fawn color, and mine has never been anything but black and tan with white chest. And many species have various varieties of color or you might even see your daemon with colors that don't occur naturally at all.

[Scarf]

Aaah, remember that the form you project/choose to imagine your dæmon as is separate from and not related to your form, i.e. the animal-based personality type/personality descriptor. :]

Not everyone agrees with this view...some people see their projected form and their settled form as one and the same. But color has little to do with it beyond what works for you. I once knew a tibbie person whose daemon was a fawn color, and mine has never been anything but black and tan with white chest. And many species have various varieties of color or you might even see your daemon with colors that don't occur naturally at all.

I think in that case it's a matter of things matching up for one reason or another. Luth is usually a binturong, because I'm lazy. That's my settled form, so in my case I'm like you and my settled form and my projected form are the same. For you projecting Kael as your settled form is a comforting thing, so your settled form and projected form match up. But there's no rule to say this has to happen...Garrus' point is that if you have a settled form your projected form doesn't have to match up to it. It can, but it doesn't have to. I can project Luth as a purple binturong, but I don't have to match the purple to my personality because I'm just settled as a normal coloured binturong. I could project him as a whale, doesn't stop the fact that I'm a binturong.

fake!edit: bluh bluh Garrus is too fast.

[Tibetador]

*is not necessarily related to

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If people have them as one and the same, that's fine. Lots of people choose to almost always or always project their dæmon as the form that "types"/"describes" their personality. Both forms can easily be the same thing - they're still separate things, though. How do I articulate this? The shapes your imaginary friend happens to take? Nothing to do with what you're like as a person or how you behave.

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I think in that case it's a matter of things matching up for one reason or another. Luth is usually a binturong, because I'm lazy. That's my settled form, so in my case I'm like you and my settled form and my projected form are the same. For you projecting Kael as your settled form is a comforting thing, so your settled form and projected form match up. But there's no rule to say this has to happen...Garrus' point is that if you have a settled form your projected form doesn't have to match up to it. It can, but it doesn't have to. I can project Luth as a purple binturong, but I don't have to match the purple to my personality because I'm just settled as a normal coloured binturong. I could project him as a whale, doesn't stop the fact that I'm a binturong.
fake!edit: bluh bluh Garrus is too fast.

Which is a large part of why I feel like form is one of the least important aspects of daemons anyway XD Or maybe it's because I just outgrew it, I don't know. It's probably difficult for me to relate to because my mind just can't wrap around seeing my own boy as anything else anymore so I tend to project that view on others. Not at all my intention so I apologize if I come off as narrowminded in my thinking.

[Tibetador]

Conversely, some other people feel they've outgrown the "relationship with your dæmon" aspect of it, haha. Dæmonism is a philosophy/idea [for lack of a better word?] with two components, "imaginary friend" and "personality typing system based on animals". Some people value both aspects pretty equally; some people value one over the other [slightly more or significantly more] or only one [e.g. some unseparated people are still interested in the personality analysis and typing part, while having no interest in having a dæmon]. Every approach/variation is okay, it's just about what works best for the individual and what they want out of/are seeking from the concept. :]

Having known my daemon since 2004, I think I've experienced all of those and then some in the past seven years, except for the lack of separation...once Kael fragmented from my singular psyche that was it. You just seemed to be saying something else earlier in your comments about albinism which is why I interjected my thoughts.

[Kheisa]

Well, I think the idea is that relations between projected form and personality form can only go one way. Your projected form isn't inherently related to your personality form unless you intentionally project the form that fits your personality. It's the difference between "I only ever see Pan as a snow leopard! I am a snow leopard!" and "I am a highland cow, so I only ever project Pan as a highland cow." See how in the first example, the projection is completely arbitrary and has nothing to do with the person's personality form? The impression that I got was that Garrus was pointing out the first example (which is more of a newbie's mistake re: daemonism) and you were defending the second (which is more of an old hat's decision) here, and so there's a slight disconnect.

And yeah so as far as projection and personality go, I'm kind of stuck in a rut as far as personality form is concerned (quails are kind of not doing it for me anymore), so I'm having fun experimenting with other projected forms. Normally I kind of default to whatever I think my personality form is at the time, so this is something new and exciting for me. :3 I've been doing a lot of ferret and striped owl projection in between forms I'm considering.

[Desmond]

This summer, I had a lot of time to myself, and my daemon decided to appear to me [Reflecting back, I should probably add "again" to this; he was around when I was little, just heavily amorphous, and he started hiding after a bad event in my childhood]. All summer, he's been a relatively stable [usually young adult] elk since he decided on a form and a name, Anaheim [Yeah, yeah, like the city]... I've done some research and offered up some alternates, and though he's stubbornly remained the same, I won't say he's settled quite yet. He's also painfully shy and submissive, so he may or may not want his voice heard on here, or anywhere else others can see.

So... yeah. Hi?

[Tibetador]

This summer, I had a lot of time to myself, and my daemon decided to appear to me [Reflecting back, I should probably add "again" to this; he was around when I was little, just heavily amorphous, and he started hiding after a bad event in my childhood]. All summer, he's been a relatively stable [usually young adult] elk since he decided on a form and a name, Anaheim [Yeah, yeah, like the city]... I've done some research and offered up some alternates, and though he's stubbornly remained the same, I won't say he's settled quite yet. He's also painfully shy and submissive, so he may or may not want his voice heard on here, or anywhere else others can see.

So... yeah. Hi?

Hello and welcome! I'm Tibetador here and my daemon is settled as a tibetan mastiff. Whether you translate for your daemon or whether he wishes to communicate or not, it's really a preference ( as most things with daemons tend to be). Kalerian, Kael, scarcely even speaks to me, let alone interjecting on his own behalf to others. Elk is a very interesting form, but if it doesn't quite satisfy, there are some folks lurking here which would I'm sure be happy to help you in your search for possible alternatives if you're interested.

I've become quite hooked on the trade aspect of CS so if you ever need help with a missed outcome or somesuch I love to haggle. :3

[Rogue Leader]

This summer, I had a lot of time to myself, and my daemon decided to appear to me [Reflecting back, I should probably add "again" to this; he was around when I was little, just heavily amorphous, and he started hiding after a bad event in my childhood]. All summer, he's been a relatively stable [usually young adult] elk since he decided on a form and a name, Anaheim [Yeah, yeah, like the city]... I've done some research and offered up some alternates, and though he's stubbornly remained the same, I won't say he's settled quite yet. He's also painfully shy and submissive, so he may or may not want his voice heard on here, or anywhere else others can see.

So... yeah. Hi?

I think my daemon must be the opposite of yours. He's constantly changing forms although he does sometimes settle down as a klipspringer for a bit. I think it's his new favorite form but he goes back to giraffe and wolverine a lot too. I'm not too good at research myself but I'm trying to find some forms that would actually suit me.

[nio]

My daemon is usually an arctic fox or a red fox. He seems to like those, and they seem to suit me. He doesn't shift much anymore, I think he's close to settling. I feel more of an arctic fox... but you never know!