Artist Army {old thread}

[mawsoleum]

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I just acquired adobe illustrator CS6. Does anyone have any tutorials or guides or tips for it? I'm clueless, thanks x3

If you'd like you can critique this, although it was just a quick free sketch.

I really like it, however, the front legs seem off somehow. Maybe slightly to short? But definitely get a second opinion. =3

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I'm so sad... I can't draw because my laptop got taken away. Sigh.

Is it rearing or running?
I'm trying a redline, but I have to know which one to get it right.

[Calix]

I suppose more rearing than running ^^; Thanks.

Neelix- Thank you, and I see what you mean c:

[mawsoleum]

Nevermind.

[DoctorDraca]

Koiyote, please make sure you know your anatomy before redlining. I'm not a canine artist, but even I can see that the front paws are very off in size. As well as the elbow which does not line up to the knee. The hind leg furthest removed from the viewer should also be brought a little more to the front so the canine can balance while doing such a stance.
You've always been a darling around the artist army, but please do watch your redlines a bit. (:

[mawsoleum]

Koiyote, please make sure you know your anatomy before redlining. I'm not a canine artist, but even I can see that the front paws are very off in size. As well as the elbow which does not line up to the knee. The hind leg furthest removed from the viewer should also be brought a little more to the front so the canine can balance while doing such a stance.
You've always been a darling around the artist army, but please do watch your redlines a bit. (:

Paws are explained by the fact my mouse is off. In any case, it's just a sketch and I was only making the shapes. As you can see with the far back paw I wasn't trying, it looks nothing like a paw. And the body is arched up, so the shoulder wouldn't be in line? It's diagonal on my computer, if the wolf fell down it would even out.
And if the dog was just going into the pose it would need both legs to push up. So actually, the redline depends on how long it's been pushing up into the rear. I assumed not long, but yes you're right. If it was in it for longer it would either be pushed forward or stretched way back to help propel.

[DoctorDraca]

Even if it's just a sketch, you won't be sure the other won't take it literal. This is why I said to mind your redlines, because the one you're giving redlines to won't always notice the difference between a quick sketch and an actual correction. I suggest looking up examples to help you redline. It seems odd to do this, but it really helps. I look up references too when I'm redlining, so I can get everything as correct as I can in order to help the other. No one is perfect afterall.

I'm just saying to mind your anatomy and don't just redline in a few seconds unless your knowledge is top notch. The artist army isn't about who can help the most but about getting the help you need in the best possible way. Giving incorrect redlines leads to further errors. But I'm sure you've understood my point by now and will do much better next time you redline. c:

This isn't just directed to you, though. Everyone can learn from this. Don't just give redlines because you can, give them because you know how to help the other artist.

[mawsoleum]

I use references as well. And it wasn't a few second redline deal, because of my mouse it took a little. I looked at references of running and leaping dogs as I went.

But apparently if I can't even draw with a reference, I'm not cut out for drawing at all. Using a reference should give you good results, even for a starter artist. I've been drawing since I could hold a crayon, and I've been doing canines for 3 years now.
Ohwell.

I'll stop spamming this thing up, though.

(Not looking for pity. Just wanted to edit this to say that. I don't like getting pity from people.)

[rheia]

hello!
putting up this, i'd love some critique/redlines on this if anyone could!


bk, that's really nice!
what seems wrong to me though is the far right (not the head sticking out, left to that) one's shoulders are way to low, thought it might just be me.

moony, tail seems placed wrong like it's to far right, but not sure. love your art <3

Her mid section is much too short, and her breasts seem rather saggy, in my opinion.

Zephayer- That's really cute ^^ I really love the paws and eyes c:

Medusa's Cascade- It seems really fat and short- was that on purpose? You always seem to draw short, chubby animals- maybe you could try making some kind of tall lean animal like a fox or maned wolf? I'd love to see you give it a go ^^

Bk13- That's awesome, I really love the concept ^^

Kuramon.- Her midsection is much too short, I also don't understand the red dots everywhere? I'm sure a human artist will come along and help you with a redline ^^;

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I just acquired adobe illustrator CS6. Does anyone have any tutorials or guides or tips for it? I'm clueless, thanks x3

If you'd like you can critique this, although it was just a quick free sketch.

The one thing that strikes me is the front leg, It seems rather short.

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Linked out because posting images takes up much of the page's space.

Celebratory art for getting my tablet back! :D
I decided to see how bad my human skills have gotten. (I've been focusing more on animals recently.)
Conclusion: Very bad. >.<
Excuse the lazy excuse for a pillow/background and the poorly drawn blood. x3
I drew to the song 'Carry On My Wayward Son' by Kansas.
Any redlines/criticisms are encouraged.

[Susiron]

If you'd like you can critique this, although it was just a quick free sketch.

Can I just first say that I can't even tell you how happy I am to see the shape of the wings that you've given the wolf? So many times I see people draw wolves with sail wings, and they cut into the sail way under the arm of the wing, and just nfgn;dlhgmdfh-- so MAJOR love for the large wing sails, keep the good work up! e u e
And for critique on the wings, I'd have minimal notes. Beef up the limbs some, maybe make the wing bigger to hold his body up, and-- this is really just a suggestion that makes wings easier to draw, I personally think, so feel free to follow it or not-- but if you make a little "hand" where all of the digits of the wing connect, it REALLY helps to flesh things out easily. It just allows you to get a really nice idea of where the digits connect, and solves the issues of clutter. Some people may not like how it looks visually on the wing though, so feel free to completely disregard this note.
For the pose, the first thing I'd suggest is raising up the wolf's angle a bit more. This isn't necessary, because you could always be drawing them dropping from a rear, but it can create more of a dynamic image if the subject's raised, especially given the flare of the wings and the intense expression that your wolf has.
I believe that it's necessary for the one leg to be forward in this pose to keep the wolf balanced. Perhaps angle it a bit back, rather than forward, to show that it's taking some weight, but otherwise don't change a thing, it's a good decision.
I couldn't get the other hind leg correct for the life of me right now, and didn't feel up for having a really awkward, club-foot looking leg, so sorry for the lack of it in this redline. x'D -- I'd just say move it back a tad bit, and lower it on the ground to suggest more depth in the wolf's stance. Raising the tail up to the backbone will also help with the haunches.
I think that I may have overdone the curves in the neck in my redline, but just wanted to show how adding more fur can help to create that canine chest, especially a roll over the shoulder.
For the forelimbs, I'd say it's just a matter of making them more fluid, and the joints more rounded. I think that you have them in good locations for the pose, since they match the rearing position well. :3

Edit: I keep forgetting to include the redlines when I post, FTT. Fixed.

[blackoutTaxonomist]

If you'd like you can critique this, although it was just a quick free sketch.

Can I just first say that I can't even tell you how happy I am to see the shape of the wings that you've given the wolf? So many times I see people draw wolves with sail wings, and they cut into the sail way under the arm of the wing, and just nfgn;dlhgmdfh-- so MAJOR love for the large wing sails, keep the good work up! e u e
And for critique on the wings, I'd have minimal notes. Beef up the limbs some, maybe make the wing bigger to hold his body up, and-- this is really just a suggestion that makes wings easier to draw, I personally think, so feel free to follow it or not-- but if you make a little "hand" where all of the digits of the wing connect, it REALLY helps to flesh things out easily. It just allows you to get a really nice idea of where the digits connect, and solves the issues of clutter. Some people may not like how it looks visually on the wing though, so feel free to completely disregard this note.
For the pose, the first thing I'd suggest is raising up the wolf's angle a bit more. This isn't necessary, because you could always be drawing them dropping from a rear, but it can create more of a dynamic image if the subject's raised, especially given the flare of the wings and the intense expression that your wolf has.
I believe that it's necessary for the one leg to be forward in this pose to keep the wolf balanced. Perhaps angle it a bit back, rather than forward, to show that it's taking some weight, but otherwise don't change a thing, it's a good decision.
I couldn't get the other hind leg correct for the life of me right now, and didn't feel up for having a really awkward, club-foot looking leg, so sorry for the lack of it in this redline. x'D -- I'd just say move it back a tad bit, and lower it on the ground to suggest more depth in the wolf's stance. Raising the tail up to the backbone will also help with the haunches.
I think that I may have overdone the curves in the neck in my redline, but just wanted to show how adding more fur can help to create that canine chest, especially a roll over the shoulder.
For the forelimbs, I'd say it's just a matter of making them more fluid, and the joints more rounded. I think that you have them in good locations for the pose, since they match the rearing position well. :3

Edit: I keep forgetting to include the redlines when I post, FTT. Fixed.

This redline is good, but I would suggest keeping the hind legs closer together to give him more balance. He looks incredibly awkward with his hind legs spread so far apart. You would think that placing the legs further apart would do just the opposite, but placing the legs underneath the body will give him more power to throw his body (and wings) up into the air... and less of a chance of being knocked over if someone were to run up and give him a push. This is coming from a horse artist perspective, though, so put as much stock into that as you choose.

Either way this image here seems to be what you were striving for originally?

am I even allowed to post stock images here? I'm sorry if not (and will take it down with haste if needed oh my gosh)--it's just a more accurate way to show how the hind legs could work. All in all, this is just my opinion and you can draw the pose above if it suits you better. :'D