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Redline by DoctorDraca

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Redline

Postby DoctorDraca » Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:34 am

Please, take these redlines with a grain of salt.

If you're going to draw abs, I suggest you either have some basic thin lines ready before you complete them with shading, or that you find other ways to define them. Thick full lines will make it look stiff and unrealistic. Also, there's many types of six packs if you're going for those. The best advice I can give you is to look up refs. Just search for 'male torso' in google and you'll find plenty of refs.

Also, you were really overcomplicating the pants. Depending on how baggy the pants are, there can be many folds. However, you make it a little easier on you to draw the folds where they're most likely to happen. Not really a critique, but more of a tip. c:

Oh, and another little tip: draw the head first. Drawing the head in later will cause issues and frustration. You can always edit the sizes and whatnot during your sketch stage so don't worry about that, but if you draw a torso first and then the head, it's gonna give you a headache.

I'm not sure how you started on the drawing, but I like to build up most of my drawings in this manner. With circles where the joints are and overall smooth shapes to define the limbs. If you work with circles and ellipses, it gets a little easier to connect things and have your body look nicer overall.

Hands are also hard, so have these:
http://shingworks.deviantart.com/art/Ha ... l-83785318
http://qinni.deviantart.com/art/Hand-Tu ... -187433101
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Re: Redline

Postby Dio-Sama » Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:59 am

DoctorDraca wrote:Please, take these redlines with a grain of salt.

If you're going to draw abs, I suggest you either have some basic thin lines ready before you complete them with shading, or that you find other ways to define them. Thick full lines will make it look stiff and unrealistic. Also, there's many types of six packs if you're going for those. The best advice I can give you is to look up refs. Just search for 'male torso' in google and you'll find plenty of refs.

Also, you were really overcomplicating the pants. Depending on how baggy the pants are, there can be many folds. However, you make it a little easier on you to draw the folds where they're most likely to happen. Not really a critique, but more of a tip. c:

Oh, and another little tip: draw the head first. Drawing the head in later will cause issues and frustration. You can always edit the sizes and whatnot during your sketch stage so don't worry about that, but if you draw a torso first and then the head, it's gonna give you a headache.

I'm not sure how you started on the drawing, but I like to build up most of my drawings in this manner. With circles where the joints are and overall smooth shapes to define the limbs. If you work with circles and ellipses, it gets a little easier to connect things and have your body look nicer overall.

Hands are also hard, so have these:
http://shingworks.deviantart.com/art/Ha ... l-83785318
http://qinni.deviantart.com/art/Hand-Tu ... -187433101



I didn't know there was many different types of six packs, that's interesting to know. c: yes I will look up refs for them in the future but I kinda went a bit ''yolo'' with it, sorry for using that term xD..

Yeah I think I did way to many folds like it was a cartoon style although the body wasn't very...cartoony, which isn't the style I was going for anyway.

I need to make it a habit of drawing the head first cause it'll bite me in the rear later :b
I'm getting there though. I did draw this earlier and I am improving.

Thanks for the advice/tips it really does help and I like how you did it. it's really neat.

You know..it's kind of an honor you helping me xD cuz I liked your art for awhile hehe
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Re: Redline

Postby DoctorDraca » Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:07 am

Well.. types. I just mean that they can look a bit different depending on the person who's sporting them. They can be noticeable, or they can be subtle. It really depends. Depends on how much and how the person works out too.

That's a real improvement, though! It looks so much better with the muscles being defined by shading. Well done!

And I'm glad I was able to help you. c:
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Re: Redline

Postby Dio-Sama » Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:12 am

DoctorDraca wrote:Well.. types. I just mean that they can look a bit different depending on the person who's sporting them. They can be noticeable, or they can be subtle. It really depends. Depends on how much and how the person works out too.

That's a real improvement, though! It looks so much better with the muscles being defined by shading. Well done!

And I'm glad I was able to help you. c:


Ahhh yes I see what you mean :b and thanks! my enemy is hands and hair but I will use those tutorials you linked to me some time c:

thankiiesss!! :D
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