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Re: LORD OF THE RINGS!!!

Postby Nellas » Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:51 am

thunderofthedrum wrote:Also, the Hobbit was written before LotR; he didn't anticipate it turning into LotR.
People wanted to know what happened next with Bilbo and his magic ring. xD
So it turned into the epic you see before you~!


I may be wrong, but I've always known it to be a different way. I don't mean to be rude or a know-it-all, I thought I'd just share my view of how I thought it is. c:
Tolkien had the languages first, and the story came after. He didn't even mean for it to be as popular as it did with all the movies and franchise and everything, he just wanted to see if he could weave a long and epic tale.
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Re: LORD OF THE RINGS!!!

Postby thunderofthedrum » Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:19 am

Well really what you said doesn't even contradict what I said- i was simply explaining the sequence of the Hobbit preceding the LotR books. Tolkien was definitely into languages so I can see him playing around and creating them before using them in a story.
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Re: LORD OF THE RINGS!!!

Postby Lunaestrella » Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:19 am

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Re: LORD OF THE RINGS!!!

Postby Bilbo Baggins. » Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:22 am

Nellas Lissësúl wrote:
thunderofthedrum wrote:Also, the Hobbit was written before LotR; he didn't anticipate it turning into LotR.
People wanted to know what happened next with Bilbo and his magic ring. xD
So it turned into the epic you see before you~!


I may be wrong, but I've always known it to be a different way. I don't mean to be rude or a know-it-all, I thought I'd just share my view of how I thought it is. c:
Tolkien had the languages first, and the story came after. He didn't even mean for it to be as popular as it did with all the movies and franchise and everything, he just wanted to see if he could weave a long and epic tale.

*feels like flaunting geeky knowledge and adding to what Nellas said*
The original purpose of the story was to give background to the language. From what I know, Quenya was the first Middle Earth-related thing Tolkien created and the only reason he made the story was to give background to his language. Thank you, Mr. Tolkien, for feeling the need to give a background to your language. Best thing you ever did. :lol:
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Re: LORD OF THE RINGS!!!

Postby SamhokuFoopets » Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:23 am

I am glad that they made the Hobbit into a movie....well a three part movie, but still. I actually don't know Elvish that well, I just found some translations and used it.
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Re: LORD OF THE RINGS!!!

Postby Lunaestrella » Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:28 am

From what I understand, Tolkien began inventing languages for Middle Earth ages before he thought about Lord of the Rings or the Hobbit. But he wanted a background for his languages, so he began writing the Book of Lost Tales. Later on, he wrote The Hobbit for his children, but it was so successful that the readers wanted to read more, so Tolkien used Bilbo´s magic ring to create a much bigger and more complex story for adults, which ended up as Lord of the Rings. At least, that´s what I´ve read :D
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Re: LORD OF THE RINGS!!!

Postby SamhokuFoopets » Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:31 am

Lunaestrella wrote:From what I understand, Tolkien began inventing languages for Middle Earth ages before he thought about Lord of the Rings or the Hobbit. But he wanted a background for his languages, so he began writing the Book of Lost Tales. Later on, he wrote The Hobbit for his children, but it was so successful that the readers wanted to read more, so Tolkien used Bilbo´s magic ring to create a much bigger and more complex story for adults, which ended up as Lord of the Rings. At least, that´s what I´ve read :D


Yes, he started the language as a kid.
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Re: LORD OF THE RINGS!!!

Postby Greenleaf » Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:28 am

SamhokuFoopets wrote:
Lunaestrella wrote:From what I understand, Tolkien began inventing languages for Middle Earth ages before he thought about Lord of the Rings or the Hobbit. But he wanted a background for his languages, so he began writing the Book of Lost Tales. Later on, he wrote The Hobbit for his children, but it was so successful that the readers wanted to read more, so Tolkien used Bilbo´s magic ring to create a much bigger and more complex story for adults, which ended up as Lord of the Rings. At least, that´s what I´ve read :D


Yes, he started the language as a kid.

And as a kid, I'm learning that language XD Its harder than I expected, though. :3

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Re: LORD OF THE RINGS!!!

Postby VanWen » Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:52 am

I love learning Sindarin. I usually start with understanding the phrases used in the movie then I started with the dictionary. It's a lot of fun because my best friend and I often talk in Sindarin. Particularly when we travel to Mordor(Maths) to destory the ring (Homework, while avoiding the notice of the Morgoth(Maths Teacher). It's also quite nice if you ahve learnt Sindarin and the read the Simarillion because you realise just how many words you know and it always bring a smile to my face when I can translate it on my own.

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Re: LORD OF THE RINGS!!!

Postby Greenleaf » Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:55 am

VanWen wrote:I love learning Sindarin. I usually start with understanding the phrases used in the movie then I started with the dictionary. It's a lot of fun because my best friend and I often talk in Sindarin. Particularly when we travel to Mordor(Maths) to destory the ring (Homework, while avoiding the notice of the Morgoth(Maths Teacher). It's also quite nice if you ahve learnt Sindarin and the read the Simarillion because you realise just how many words you know and it always bring a smile to my face when I can translate it on my own.

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Why not join both? I know Luna's one will be epic! Why? Because I often rp with her and it's a great plot. XD


I'm learning from my Treason of Isengard book. Not only does it give unpublished info, it also contains a whole page of writing Elvish XD
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