COMMUNITY POLL: Rare Monthly Pets

[Nicnova]

And this will be the experience for most new players if they decide to do this against us.

People just assume they will adopt the rare outcome but most of us won't, including newbies. Countless newbies will keep missing out on the rare outcomes, most likely getting more and more frustrated and feeling defeated.

And let's just say we'll get a rare outcome every 3 months, that's four rare monthlies per year. And like I keep saying, most newbies will miss out on the rare outcome, like the rest of us. So maybe they get lucky and adopt one of those four rares one year, so now they gained one rare and added 3 rares to their wishlist that year.

The math doesn't add up. It's going to harm newbies and annoy oldies.

This is a clear case of "the popular opinion is not always the right opinion".
People just hear "we get more rares" and assume we all get one. That's not how rares work.

PLEASE. Do. Not. Do. This.

There is no "right" opinion, it's just an opinion.

I support this idea, but I don't assume we'll all get a rare. I just think that trading for them would be fun, and if you are lucky enough to get one in a litter it would be exciting. A lot of people nowadays log on only for events, and nothing else. The site is pretty dead for the rest of the time. Something like this could bring people to log on more often.

I also support the other idea mentioned on this thread to release URs in the same way that Zebras are released, I think that could also help boost activity on the site.

[Sashtato]

People just hear "we get more rares" and assume we all get one. That's not how rares work.

PLEASE. Do. Not. Do. This.

My thoughts exactly. No support.

I personally feel okay with that though. I love the idea of the possible excitement if I were to adopt the rare, if I don’t, it’s fine, maybe I’ll get lucky next month? I also like the idea of having reason to log on more to try and trade for them. I feel like CS gets monotonous outside of events - which, I understand some people prefer not feeling like they have to log on all the time - but I am personally interested in finding more reasons to log on and engage, rather than getting bored with the same expectation I always have for each monthly litter.

[iHolli]

There is no "right" opinion, it's just an opinion.

I support this idea, but I don't assume we'll all get a rare. I just think that trading for them would be fun, and if you are lucky enough to get one in a litter it would be exciting. A lot of people nowadays log on only for events, and nothing else. The site is pretty dead for the rest of the time. Something like this could bring people to log on more often.

I also support the other idea mentioned on this thread to release URs in the same way that Zebras are released, I think that could also help boost activity on the site.

I personally feel okay with that though. I love the idea of the possible excitement if I were to adopt the rare, if I don’t, it’s fine, maybe I’ll get lucky next month? I also like the idea of having reason to log on more to try and trade for them. I feel like CS gets monotonous outside of events - which, I understand some people prefer not feeling like they have to log on all the time - but I am personally interested in finding more reasons to log on and engage, rather than getting bored with the same expectation I always have for each monthly litter.

{ absolutely agree! I usually don't get great RNG so I wouldn't expect to end up with a rare-- but, since I fully support adding rares [only rares though, no VR / ER outcomes please] as special outcomes, I think it would spice up the trade scene in a helpful way. right now I really only trade for rats. it would be a nice "something different" to log on and actually try to trade for. plus, like with the Golden Gacha, I actually did get one and didn't care for it so I just auctioned it off for rats. I'm sure that would happen again. win for everyone c: ♡
{ I do totally love the idea of throwing all URs into the pool like zebras, though! I've never gotten a zebra but knowing that chance exists still keeps things interesting ♡

[TANKMEN]

There is no "right" opinion, it's just an opinion.

I support this idea, but I don't assume we'll all get a rare. I just think that trading for them would be fun, and if you are lucky enough to get one in a litter it would be exciting. A lot of people nowadays log on only for events, and nothing else. The site is pretty dead for the rest of the time. Something like this could bring people to log on more often.

I also support the other idea mentioned on this thread to release URs in the same way that Zebras are released, I think that could also help boost activity on the site.

I personally feel okay with that though. I love the idea of the possible excitement if I were to adopt the rare, if I don’t, it’s fine, maybe I’ll get lucky next month? I also like the idea of having reason to log on more to try and trade for them. I feel like CS gets monotonous outside of events - which, I understand some people prefer not feeling like they have to log on all the time - but I am personally interested in finding more reasons to log on and engage, rather than getting bored with the same expectation I always have for each monthly litter.

{ absolutely agree! I usually don't get great RNG so I wouldn't expect to end up with a rare-- but, since I fully support adding rares [only rares though, no VR / ER outcomes please] as special outcomes, I think it would spice up the trade scene in a helpful way. right now I really only trade for rats. it would be a nice "something different" to log on and actually try to trade for. plus, like with the Golden Gacha, I actually did get one and didn't care for it so I just auctioned it off for rats. I'm sure that would happen again. win for everyone c: ♡
{ I do totally love the idea of throwing all URs into the pool like zebras, though! I've never gotten a zebra but knowing that chance exists still keeps things interesting ♡

just re-establishing my support and agreement with all of the above! plenty of us are voting 'yes' not because we think we'll get the rare outcome, but because we think it'll spice up some of the monotony of the site and give us (and others) a new challenge to work on. there's nothing wrong with wanting challenge, and as mentioned in my older replies on the thread, its a more attainable goal for newer players than a lot of the list pets are.

i typically only ever bother to collect monthly outcomes i actually care about (usually the dogs, usually PPS ones haha) and i have tons of doubles of other monthlies i dont really care for. i could put those towards the new 'chase' pet(s) - especially if theyre interesting or cute! since right now, its pretty easy to just swap 1:1 for most outcomes. and thats nice, but super duper boring. WHERE'S THE PIZAZZ?!?!??!

[sumireko]

i'll say that treating this as a sort of newbies vs oldies issue that newbies are doing "against us" is pretty wild. both old and new players have varied opinions on this, no point to turning it into an us-vs-them. i feel like it's more of a conflict of play style - this would be frustrating to people who collect "one of everything", but that's only one playstyle, so it's a multifaceted issue...

personally, i like the idea, in terms of giving a potential boost to the trading market - this is maybe an odd perspective, but i'm someone who both has a lot of and likes/wants a lot of pets that are not particularly rare and are old-but-not-That-old, and trying to trade those around can feel like pulling teeth sometimes, as well as trying to trade event pets for anything that isn't event pets. i also have trouble remembering to come in regularly for things like events (which seem to be the only place modern rares happen)

so, it'd be nifty if some rares could slip in with my monthly pets that i don't have to worry about going away forever in a week, or if i could trade some of my older fodder that newbies might want while still getting something fun and new with some value, if that makes sense.

[Minimanta]

i'll say that treating this as a sort of newbies vs oldies issue that newbies are doing "against us" is pretty wild. both old and new players have varied opinions on this, no point to turning it into an us-vs-them. i feel like it's more of a conflict of play style - this would be frustrating to people who collect "one of everything", but that's only one playstyle, so it's a multifaceted issue...

personally, i like the idea, in terms of giving a potential boost to the trading market - this is maybe an odd perspective, but i'm someone who both has a lot of and likes/wants a lot of pets that are not particularly rare and are old-but-not-That-old, and trying to trade those around can feel like pulling teeth sometimes, as well as trying to trade event pets for anything that isn't event pets. i also have trouble remembering to come in regularly for things like events (which seem to be the only place modern rares happen)

so, it'd be nifty if some rares could slip in with my monthly pets that i don't have to worry about going away forever in a week, or if i could trade some of my older fodder that newbies might want while still getting something fun and new with some value, if that makes sense.

This is not a newbies vs oldies issue. We're all in the same boat. It's going to suck for everybody, old or new, just at different degrees.

It's going to actively hurt newbies AND annoy oldies. The only people who are going to benefit from this are the lucky few who adopts the rare outcome. It's gonna suck for everybody else.

I've been here for every single rare outcome over the years from 2009 until now and it all sucked. If you think trading sucks now, rare monthlies only make it suck more.

I will forever be against this suggestion. We have events to spice up the trading situation.

[XDamonXMattisonX]

Yeah I think it could be good but also could be bad now that I have read so many posts. What I really don’t like as well as another person mentioned is the delete pet button or even worse the fact that people are allowed to hoard pets, I feel like that’s really unfair and makes it even harder to get some of the sought after pets when some people have over a hundred of the same one like that’s just messed up in my opinion

[pthumerian]

And this will be the experience for most new players if they decide to do this against us.

People just assume they will adopt the rare outcome but most of us won't, including newbies. Countless newbies will keep missing out on the rare outcomes, most likely getting more and more frustrated and feeling defeated.

And let's just say we'll get a rare outcome every 3 months, that's four rare monthlies per year. And like I keep saying, most newbies will miss out on the rare outcome, like the rest of us. So maybe they get lucky and adopt one of those four rares one year, so now they gained one rare and added 3 rares to their wishlist that year.

The math doesn't add up. It's going to harm newbies and annoy oldies.

This is a clear case of "the popular opinion is not always the right opinion".
People just hear "we get more rares" and assume we all get one. That's not how rares work.

PLEASE. Do. Not. Do. This.

100% agreed, your argumentation is excellent and reasonable, just sadly, I doubt it will help.

[ShadowKatto]

There is no "right" opinion, it's just an opinion.

I support this idea, but I don't assume we'll all get a rare. I just think that trading for them would be fun, and if you are lucky enough to get one in a litter it would be exciting. A lot of people nowadays log on only for events, and nothing else. The site is pretty dead for the rest of the time. Something like this could bring people to log on more often.

I also support the other idea mentioned on this thread to release URs in the same way that Zebras are released, I think that could also help boost activity on the site.

Exactly. I love litter swapping and trading, and it would make CS more fun when there isn’t an event going on. Of course not everyone is going to get a rare, that’s now how rares work

[Thalassic]

i'll say that treating this as a sort of newbies vs oldies issue that newbies are doing "against us" is pretty wild. both old and new players have varied opinions on this, no point to turning it into an us-vs-them. i feel like it's more of a conflict of play style - this would be frustrating to people who collect "one of everything", but that's only one playstyle, so it's a multifaceted issue...

personally, i like the idea, in terms of giving a potential boost to the trading market - this is maybe an odd perspective, but i'm someone who both has a lot of and likes/wants a lot of pets that are not particularly rare and are old-but-not-That-old, and trying to trade those around can feel like pulling teeth sometimes, as well as trying to trade event pets for anything that isn't event pets. i also have trouble remembering to come in regularly for things like events (which seem to be the only place modern rares happen)

so, it'd be nifty if some rares could slip in with my monthly pets that i don't have to worry about going away forever in a week, or if i could trade some of my older fodder that newbies might want while still getting something fun and new with some value, if that makes sense.

This is not a newbies vs oldies issue. We're all in the same boat. It's going to suck for everybody, old or new, just at different degrees.

It's going to actively hurt newbies AND annoy oldies. The only people who are going to benefit from this are the lucky few who adopts the rare outcome. It's gonna suck for everybody else.

I've been here for every single rare outcome over the years from 2009 until now and it all sucked. If you think trading sucks now, rare monthlies only make it suck more.

I will forever be against this suggestion. We have events to spice up the trading situation.

Big agree.
I don't think its a good move to try to increase activity by just making more people miss a pet that is then going to be a hassle to get. Trading can be increased by having more outcomes or more diverse design in a litter too, making it more likely that people will miss one/hoard one without it becoming outrageous to trade for.

Though seeing the polls now, I fear that the future of CS isn't going to be a pleasant one.