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CS 2022 Trading Survey (Results Posted, Come Discuss!)

Postby Neoncherry64 » Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:10 am

———2022 Chicken Smoothie Trading Survey———



Update: The form is now closed. I am so pleased with the number of responses, thank you all!

Discussion of the results is highly encouraged, I am excited to see the community’s opinions. Were there any answers that surprised you?


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Hello everyone! I’ve been active on Chicken Smoothie for almost 3 years now, and since then, I have learned a lot about the CS economy and how people trade. There are many guides out there explaining how to fairly trade using charts, math, and other metrics, but at the end of the day, they are just suggestions since every user is going to make their own trading habits based on what personally feels fair to them. Because of this, learning how to trade fairly or giving advice about trades can be confusing! I designed this survey to get a feel for how the Chicken Smoothie community tends to trade their pets, and if there is a general consensus about how people value their pets when it comes to things like year and rarity differences.


Click the link below to be taken to the survey and see the results!





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Re: CS 2022 Trading Survey (Under Construction)

Postby Neoncherry64 » Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:11 am

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Survey Results:


In total, this survey gathered 332 responses total during the 106 days it was active, from January 11th to April 27th, 2022. You did not need a google account to participate, and all answers were/are kept anonymous.

Below are screenshots of the survey results for each question. You can view these results in google forms as well by clicking on the survey link in the first post.

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Note that due to the limited scope of the survey, this data may not represent the whole of the CS community and their opinions in trading. There are many users who are not active in the CS forums, such as COPPAs, and would thus be underrepresented in this data.

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A quick note on questions 18 and 19:


I originally wanted to include a question about list pets, and what people prefer when it comes to bulk VRs vs. a single OMGSR pet. I also was curious on people’s opinions on pets such as the Nick Unicorn that have vastly lower demand than their actual rarity. Mashing two of these variables together in a survey question is kind of a statistics no-no, since we cannot be sure which variable affected the answer. These two questions are pretty awful in retrospect, and I almost deleted them. Plus, I felt like they didn’t really fit the survey theme. I’ve decided to include those two questions in the results for archive purposes, just please take them with a grain of salt.



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Re: CS 2022 Trading Survey (Under Construction)

Postby Neoncherry64 » Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:11 am

Conclusions/Notes


Questions 1 and 2: (The 2:1 rule with older pets)

Comparing the first two questions, we can see that most CS users generally would rather have a 2009 rare than two 2010 rares. Despite this, more than half of responders would be readily willing to make the trade-down.

Questions 1 and 4: (The 2:1 rule with new vs. old pets)

Both questions pertain to trading up two rares for one rare using the 2:1 rule. Comparing the two graphs, it seems users are more willing to trade up to older pets than trading up to newer pets. Still, more than half of users would readily accept a 2:1 trade up, regardless of year.

Question 3: (VR pets and the 2:1 rule)

Using the 2:1 rule, VR pets have been valued at 2 rares from their release date for a long time. However, the majority of CS users would be unwilling or unsure about trading down a newer, non-2009 VR pet for the 2:1 rule. About a fourth of CS users would willingly take this trade.

Questions 4 and 5: (The 2:1 rule over multiple year gaps)

Comparing these two questions, we can see that the larger the gap in years, the less likely people are going to pay more rares for a single rare. There is a considerably large gap between people would be willing to trade down their rares at a 2:1 rate than a 4:1 rate, both of which would be technically deemed fair by the 2:1 rule.

Questions 6 and 7: (The 2:1 rule for uncommons -> rares)

We can conclude from these two questions that the vast majority of the CS population values a rare more than 2 uncommons, even though they are equal according to the 2:1 rule. Only around a fourth of users would be readily willing to trade their rares for two uncommons.

Question 8: (The 2:1 rule over multiple rarities)

We can see clearly that the vast majority of users would be unwilling to trade down their pets more than one rarity tier using the 2:1 rule. It would be interesting to see for a future survey how the data might change if the jump was from very common to uncommon versus common to rare.

Questions 9, 10, and 11: (How people value current-year store pets)

Traditionally, a current year store pet has been valued at a late 2010 rare. However, a little less than half of users would willingly pay a 2010 rare for a current store pet. Additionally, more than half of users would be readily willing to trade their store pets currently in the store for a 2011 rare instead of a 2010 rare.

Questions 12 and 15: (Current store chart values)

Despite the widely accepted chart for how store pet values translate into pets, more than half of users would not trade a VR 2019 store for a single 2010 rare, same as a VR 2016 store for a single ‘09 rare. Only 26-31% of users reported that they would let their stores go for that price.

Questions 13 and 14: (Trading with both date and rarity gaps)

Using the 2:1 rule, a 2013 uncommon would be many times more valuable than a 2017 rare. Around a fourth of users reported they would be willing to make the rare to uncommon trade. However, the majority of users would value the 2017 rare higher, and would be more likely to trade up for the rare rather than down for the uncommon.

Question 16 and 5: (Trading up newer vs. older rares with the 4:1 ratio)

These two questions ask if the trader would be willing to give 4 rares for one rare that is two years older. The only difference is that one trade pertains to new rares, while one to old rares. Similarly to questions 1 and 4, we can see yet again that traders are more likely to trade up their multiple rares for one rare if they are getting a pet from the first few years of the site. Still, more than half of users would not be willing to trade four rares for one, even if they were receiving a 2009 rare.

Question 17: (Trading with vast year and rarity gaps)
The majority of users would not be willing to trade a rare for a common, no matter how far apart the dates are. However, over one fourth of users reported that they would, in fact make this trade.

Question 18 and 19:

(See above post for my comments on this question)

Question 20: (How users use the 2:1 rule)

This question in particular was the most enlightening for me. Despite the 2:1 rule being known site-wide and given as advice on trading threads, almost half of CS users reported that they do not use the 2:1 rule at all. In addition, most people who use the 2:1 rule only use it for 1-2 year rarity gaps only, not for larger year differences.

Final Thoughts:

Looking at the charts, I was quite surprised how split many of the opinions are on trading. Very few questions had the vast majority pick one side, there was always a substantial amount of people disagreeing with the majority. This just confirms that trade opinions on CS are quite varied, what feels fair to one person may feel very unfair to another.

On another note, looking at this data, I feel it may be time for CS to revisit the 2:1 rule, especially when it comes to uncommons -> rares and using the 2:1 rule for dates and rarities in conjunction with each other. The store pet questions were also quite illuminating, since it seems like quite a few users deviate from the “standard chart” for values.

If you have any thoughts, disagreements, anything, please share your comments on the thread! I really hope this data will be able to be used and referenced in the future, and help traders develop what they feel is fair.
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Re: CS 2022 Trading Survey (Under Construction)

Postby Neoncherry64 » Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:13 am

Posting is now open! Please let me know your thoughts and opinions so I can make this survey better for everyone. Were there any questions you would have wished to see? Any that you thought were unnecessary? I’d love to hear your input! There were many more questions I wanted to put, but I didn’t want it to get too long.
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Re: CS 2022 Trading Survey (Posting Open!)

Postby noteworthy » Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:13 pm

i thought it was a neat little quiz, and the last question made it for me. i mostly use the 2:1 and as someone who took a hiatus for about 3 years and came back to all this "non" and "MA" talk (which none of it makes any sense to me, haha), makes me really feel like an old timer :<

enough of my drabbling, i can't wait to see what the results of this'll be!

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Re: CS 2022 Trading Survey (Posting Open!)

Postby Neoncherry64 » Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:53 pm

noteworthy wrote:i thought it was a neat little quiz, and the last question made it for me. i mostly use the 2:1 and as someone who took a hiatus for about 3 years and came back to all this "non" and "MA" talk (which none of it makes any sense to me, haha), makes me really feel like an old timer :<

enough of my drabbling, i can't wait to see what the resultsof this'll be!


I’m glad you liked it! I hope the results will help both new players as well as older players trying to learn how current players trade these days.

(Also, as a highly simplified explanation, A Mid Advent is 6-9 ‘09 rares, and a non is 10-12 Mid Advents ;) I’m pretty sure these terms used to mean different values than they do now that the list is gone!)
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Re: CS 2022 Trading Survey (Posting Open!)

Postby Aaron✦ » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:17 am

Taken! I'm really interested to see how this turns out :)
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Re: CS 2022 Trading Survey (Posting Open!)

Postby Bridgy1234 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:22 am

Took the survey
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Re: CS 2022 Trading Survey (Posting Open!)

Postby ×Seven of Nine× » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:26 am

Finally, something to knock out all this crazy talk back and forth, can't wait to see the results

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Re: CS 2022 Trading Survey (Posting Open!)

Postby iHolli » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:35 am

{done! This was really interesting to take-- and made me realize just how much I dislike trading down for myself xD I look forward to seeing the results!}

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