CS Rares+ Guide

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Poll 3: How would you like valuable pets to be tiered?

Poll ended at Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:15 pm

-By non value, like how the FTT does, and structured like the old list was!
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-I'd like to see a new way of sorting the list! (Comment your idea!)
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-I just want to see the results.
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Re: CS Rares+ Guide

Postby The Radio Demon » Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:54 am

Honestly, unless you're planning to bring multiple people into the project as management, it's your list, but you're amenable to listening to the community. I don't think having your name in it will stop people from using it.

Perhaps 'Rare+ Demand Reference Guide'? 'Marketplace Demand Reference Guide'?
'Trading Guide' could be used instead of 'Reference Guide'.

Remember, it doesn't need to be snappy or flow well. It just needs to demonstrate what the thread aims to achieve.
Remember 'How Much is this Pet Worth in C$' doesn't flow well, or sound snappy, but it sounds like what it should be.

Also pay attention to the fact that the majority of these guides don't have CS in the title. It was never CS Rares List Guide, it was 'The' Rares List Guide.
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Re: CS Rares+ Guide

Postby endermiss » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:29 am

The Rare+ Market List <-- my name suggestion
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Re: CS Rares+ Guide

Postby Giraffeti » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:37 am

Using the word “list” instead of “guide” in the title sets up just what we had in the rares list. Players believing that this “list” is official. No matter how many warnings you put, there were always people who saw the word list and thought those things. Guide sounds less official.

Also I suggest, again, putting your user in the title.
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Re: CS Rares+ Guide

Postby DrMoneyBags » Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:10 am

Slides in

How about the name

“Market value outline”

Guide sounds too specific, list too official

Outline, much more looses

And market value I believe refers more to what it’s going for as opposed to its technical worth, which is what you seem to be wanting to organize



Maybe add in a page explaining the 3 month rule, and in that include pets that are going for more. That way the “rares of interest” is accompanied by a more finite rule. SOunds silly but I think it’d help newer users who may uncover/be told to view this before finding the ftt or what is this pet worth? Thread.
Also the 2:1 rule as well
That way they’re told the basics, then shown pets that these rules will likely not work when trading for.
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Re: CS Rares+ Guide

Postby endermiss » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:48 am

DrMoneyBags wrote:“Market value outline”

In my opinion, this is the best one suggested.
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Re: CS Rares+ Guide

Postby Liliette » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:56 am

endermiss wrote:
DrMoneyBags wrote:“Market value outline”

In my opinion, this is the best one suggested.


Welcome back from your day break, moneybags

I agree that this is the best name.
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Re: CS Rares+ Guide

Postby f1owercrown » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:57 am

    Explain again why you wouldn’t want your username up in the title?

    Anything without your username sounds official. “Market Value Outline” still gives off the vibes of “this is the actual market value of pets in CS”. Please, just put your username. I don’t get what you have to lose in putting your username.
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Re: CS Rares+ Guide

Postby DrMoneyBags » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:22 am

Liliette wrote:
endermiss wrote:
DrMoneyBags wrote:“Market value outline”

In my opinion, this is the best one suggested.


Welcome back from your day break, moneybags

I agree that this is the best name.



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Re: CS Rares+ Guide

Postby The Radio Demon » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:29 am

endermiss wrote:
DrMoneyBags wrote:“Market value outline”

In my opinion, this is the best one suggested.

I'd have to agree here. This sounds less official, and more like a guide people can follow if they want to know the current demand of pets.
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Re: CS Rares+ Guide

Postby Rosè » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:33 am

Excuse me for the random post here, but I was just breezing by and reading what the big idea was with the thread, and I thought maybe I would put in an opinion just since it’s currently being discussed anyway~

I can’t help but notice that in previous pages of the thread you had stated that this is a community guide because it’s geared towards the part of the community that is looking for a new, more demand based rarity guide. The issue with this however is that I do not see how it could be called a community guide if it’s only intended for a fraction of the community, as it seems like there are quite a lot of people who are against the current way this list is being built, or the current ideas in which this list will be built on.

I personally do see a name change as being a better idea than keeping it the same, especially if it’s not geared towards all of CS as apposed to what it says in the title. Maybe something as simple as what was said above with the “market value outline” name suggested. I just personally believe that if this list is only really for one small portion of the community than it should be stated that it isn’t a community guide. Just because it is intended for part of the community doesn’t mean that it can be considered a community guide.

Another point I would like to bring up is that demand values are always changing and never completely consistent. All it takes is for a few users to offer above the usual demand for a pet and then the demand for said pet goes up. This would be very difficult to keep track of.
Even if that wasn’t the case though, demand is still a rocky road in which it always ends with pets rising and falling, and moving pets up and down the list constantly can be very confusing and also disappointing to some users. There was a time the UR tiger was going for like 7 nons(from actual experience with owning one in that time), and recently I have seen people pay 5 usually. It seems to be going up again as well, in such a short time. I don’t see how it would be beneficial to have to keep changing the list around when people can just check what it is going for themselves.
It definitely seems like it would help when you think of it from a certain perspective, but from much to many other angles it seems a bit less than helpful, especially when you take into account the fact that what happened to the original list was extremely similar, and that ended very badly.

I would definitely say by no means should you disregard this altogether if you want it to be made, but pleaseeeee state more obviously that this is for you and your supporters/people who want a demand based list only. stating that it is a community guide would be too broad of an audience marketed to if you are not interested in accepting criticism and input from the rest of the site.
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