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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby phxyvi » Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:21 pm

Poetplays wrote:
♔ Salem ♔ wrote:
Poetplays wrote:https://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/viewtrade.php?id=83584677&userid=758986&signature=zOLgivb3EegYpDkL0h1AzQ Would this be fair?
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Unfair to them
Your side = 3 '09 rares
Their side = 8 '09 rares
Demand is up to you and your trading partner

Thanks! Second opinion? I've been told PPS Dragon cat is worth 3 '09s (and have been offered much more xD).


DrMoneyBags wrote:^^ it is definitely worth more than 3 09 rares. Set rarity or not it is ridiculous to ignore demand. If you can get more for a pet then why wouldn’t you?

Personally, I got a zebra and add my pps dragon cat but obviously I just got an insane deal. I would say the kitsune set is a very good offer as many people have that a small autos for their dragoncat auctions. Their demand is pretty up there and you can get a nice shiny new toy for the full set.

Though you could also wait and see what else you get or trade it for a shima (which usually fetches insaNE overpay. Evenmoreso than the dragoncat)


The pps dragon cat is not worth more than 1 '09 rare.
Demand DEPENDS ON WHO YOU TRADE AND YOUR PERSONAL PREFERENCES.
Therefore, demand does not equal worth.
^^^^^^^


Demand does equal worth ^^ supply and demand are the determiners of worth. You may claim it doesn’t matter but at the end of the say, you’d be hard pressed to find someone who would trade it for 1 09 rare. “It’s technically not worth that much” doesn’t fly because if the general populous pays that much then that is it’s worth.

When it comes to bartering, things fluctuate. You’re trading not shopping. And so, demand does matter. On this thread you’re meant to give educated advice and if you’re going to ignore things that are generally accepted in the tradin realm because of personal bias that isn’t educated
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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby angel furby » Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:22 pm

opinions on this?? i'm looking to collect all the cats so knocking this guy off would be great but i'm not sure if this is a good trade both rarity and demand wise ! c: thanks in advance<3
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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby nobxdy » Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:25 pm

DrMoneyBags wrote:
♔Salem♔ wrote:
The pps dragon cat is not worth more than 1 '09 rare.
Demand DEPENDS ON WHO YOU TRADE AND YOUR PERSONAL PREFERENCES.
Therefore, demand does not equal worth.

^^^^^^^


Demand does equal worth ^^ supply and demand are the determiners of worth. You may claim it doesn’t matter but at the end of the say, you’d be hard pressed to find someone who would trade it for 1 09 rare. “It’s technically not worth that much” doesn’t fly because if the general populous pays that much then that is it’s worth.

When it comes to bartering, things fluctuate. You’re trading not shopping. And so, demand does matter. On this thread you’re meant to give educated advice and if you’re going to ignore things that are generally accepted in the tradin realm because of personal bias that isn’t educated


It's up the the person and their trading partner how they value the pet demand wise.
The pps dragoncat is not worth more than 1 '09 rare.
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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby phxyvi » Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:26 pm

furbys wrote:opinions on this?? i'm looking to collect all the cats so knocking this guy off would be great but i'm not sure if this is a good trade both rarity and demand wise ! c: thanks in advance<3

:o

In my opinion that is a very good trade! The sorb can fetch a non and the little galaxy kitty is about 1.5 nons if I’m correct (don’t attack me if I’m not, the lesser seen things I’m rusty on)

And the rose wouldn’t bump it to that Half a non, so.
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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby phxyvi » Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:31 pm

♔ Salem ♔ wrote:
DrMoneyBags wrote:
♔Salem♔ wrote:
The pps dragon cat is not worth more than 1 '09 rare.
Demand DEPENDS ON WHO YOU TRADE AND YOUR PERSONAL PREFERENCES.
Therefore, demand does not equal worth.

^^^^^^^


Demand does equal worth ^^ supply and demand are the determiners of worth. You may claim it doesn’t matter but at the end of the say, you’d be hard pressed to find someone who would trade it for 1 09 rare. “It’s technically not worth that much” doesn’t fly because if the general populous pays that much then that is it’s worth.

When it comes to bartering, things fluctuate. You’re trading not shopping. And so, demand does matter. On this thread you’re meant to give educated advice and if you’re going to ignore things that are generally accepted in the tradin realm because of personal bias that isn’t educated


It's up the the person and their trading partner how they value the pet demand wise.
The pps dragoncat is not worth more than 1 '09 rare.



Perhaps you wouldn’t pay more than that. But the rest of everyone would, and must if they want that pet.

Demand is up to the traders but in general traders tend to follow other traders. And majority rules, so. Nobody on this site would accept 1 09 rare for their dragon cat. Therefore meaning that is bad advice. If it cannot be applied, realistically, it isn’t reliable????
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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby nobxdy » Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:35 pm

DrMoneyBags wrote:Perhaps you wouldn’t pay more than that. But the rest of everyone would, and must if they want that pet.

Demand is up to the traders but in general traders tend to follow other traders. And majority rules, so. Nobody on this site would accept 1 09 rare for their dragon cat. Therefore meaning that is bad advice. If it cannot be applied, realistically, it isn’t reliable????


Not everyone values a certain pet the exact same. I was telling them that the trade was unfair to the kitsunes, WHICH IT IS, because that's what this thread is for. Whether you or someone else values the pps dragoncat more IS UP TO YOU. No one can give a set value "demand wise" because it depends on the user.
I dont know why this is so difficult to understand
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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby angel furby » Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:37 pm

DrMoneyBags wrote:
furbys wrote:opinions on this?? i'm looking to collect all the cats so knocking this guy off would be great but i'm not sure if this is a good trade both rarity and demand wise ! c: thanks in advance<3

:o

In my opinion that is a very good trade! The sorb can fetch a non and the little galaxy kitty is about 1.5 nons if I’m correct (don’t attack me if I’m not, the lesser seen things I’m rusty on)

And the rose wouldn’t bump it to that Half a non, so.
Take the kitty

thank you ! can i get a second opinion? c:
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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby phxyvi » Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:40 pm

♔ Salem ♔ wrote:
DrMoneyBags wrote:Perhaps you wouldn’t pay more than that. But the rest of everyone would, and must if they want that pet.

Demand is up to the traders but in general traders tend to follow other traders. And majority rules, so. Nobody on this site would accept 1 09 rare for their dragon cat. Therefore meaning that is bad advice. If it cannot be applied, realistically, it isn’t reliable????


Not everyone values a certain pet the exact same. I was telling them that the trade was unfair to the kitsunes, WHICH IT IS, because that's what this thread is for. Whether you or someone else values the pps dragoncat more IS UP TO YOU. No one can give a set value "demand wise" because it depends on the user.


And I AGREE that the trade is good for the dragoncat side.

But a part of this thread is giving accurate advice on trading- and pet values are a huge part of that experience.

Obviously nobody can give a 100% accurate official value demand wise, it does depend on the user. But it’s also not too difficult to give a rough estimate of what lengths people NORMALLY go through to get that pet.

A Moonswirl and a nonswirl should technically be worth the same amount. But they ARENT.

A pink sorb should be worth more than a BEG, but it isnt.

Why? Because a majority of people say “yea that sounds about right”

You can try and trade a Moonswirl for a nonswirl

Or a pink sorb for a BEG

But is it going to work? No. So yes, you can be happy you were right but that isn’t helpful to anyone involved.
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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby Ironic Equation » Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:41 pm

furbys wrote:
DrMoneyBags wrote:
furbys wrote:opinions on this?? i'm looking to collect all the cats so knocking this guy off would be great but i'm not sure if this is a good trade both rarity and demand wise ! c: thanks in advance<3

:o

In my opinion that is a very good trade! The sorb can fetch a non and the little galaxy kitty is about 1.5 nons if I’m correct (don’t attack me if I’m not, the lesser seen things I’m rusty on)

And the rose wouldn’t bump it to that Half a non, so.
Take the kitty

thank you ! can i get a second opinion? c:

I agree. The pink sorbet gets about a non and the galaxy cat about 1.5 in my experience, and the rose dog isn't worth half a non. I'd take it (:
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