The Rarity Trade Guide

[lil rascal]

I think another thing to consider is that a lot of people might be voting with the assumption that pets like the green robo rat are "exceptions" that would be taken into consideration anyway, much as the URs are surely exceptions (I doubt the people voting to have the cutoff at 2012 want to ignore the URs from 2013+ haha) but it's a little hard to tell how many are voting for a general cutoff that will allow for many exceptions (e.g. include store pets from 2013+ if they started VR) and how many are voting for a harder cutoff that will only allow for a few exceptions (i.e. only let the URs be exceptions). (Anyone who's taking it more literally like me and is voting for a nearly complete cutoff is probably voting for one of the last few options.)

(off topic but I just wanted to say I didn't ignore those posts from earlier, so now I have a saved draft of various posts and info tidbits that I need to clean up)

Yes I think it needs to be explained a bit more what exactly the poll means. I still haven't voted as I don't really understand what exactly it's asking me to vote for. I believe it should be a pets rarity in relation to what rarity tag it is and when it gained that tag, not age, that determines if a pet is placed or not. For example does the poll mean that all VRs between '08-whenever people vote for will be included, even if they only just turned VR with this new rarity update, while all VRs past that date (apart from URs) are excluded? If so then I don't really agree with any of the options as these newer (old) VRs just aren't as rare as the more recent VRs that have been VR for ages, they only turned VR because the cutoff for when a rare turns VR was lowered.

[ElementalInsanity]

^^^^ totally agreed. I was assuming exceptions would be made for certain pets.

[Ironic Equation]

Yeah I don't really understand the poll either, and haven't voted because of that. I feel like the cut-off date we should be voting for is the cut-off of when a pet turned very rare and never dropped since, rather than the cut-off of when it was released. Pets that have been very rare from the start and URs/store pets are an exception.

[EmberzTale]

Ive been waiting for replies but seems attention is back on Rare's List.

The more I hear about the "no cut off argument" I come to agree, but regardless the community is still voting to stop it at 2012. We can always purpose a second poll with the choices narrowed down to 2. And give a post summarizing the pros and cons to each choice.

For some of the UR's and other OMGsoRares I think dates should be looked at in some cases to avoid them all sitting on the same tier. And if we could find out if the same number of new UR's are released every year (relative to each other) or if they increase with the growing user account, I think that would help placements.

Store pets I have seen responses on both sides of the argument and I think again that should be another poll. But I am in favor of adding them.

I voted that older pets consist of 2008-2012. I didn't know the poll was for the cut-off date; I thought we were just clarifying what we called older pets/

[Mozzy.]

I voted that older pets consist of 2008-2012. I didn't know the poll was for the cut-off date; I thought we were just clarifying what we called older pets/

I assumed the same thing and also vote '08-'12.
Perhaps a follow-up poll is needed to clarify if we're having cut off dates, and what they should be.

BUT I'm finally home and back onto my computer uninterrupted so I can start working on my List again. We need a base to work from.

[Sinbreaker]

Since we should have all information recorded, if someone wants to take a screenshot if the poll and save it on a google docs, we can rework the poll to ask about a cut off date?

And in the chance we get votes for none, we can start looking at VR+ and deciding if all VRs are on the list.

And of course move on to the UR/Store vote.

[Cosmos]

Since we should have all information recorded, if someone wants to take a screenshot if the poll and save it on a google docs, we can rework the poll to ask about a cut off date?

And in the chance we get votes for none, we can start looking at VR+ and deciding if all VRs are on the list.

And of course move on to the UR/Store vote.

I went ahead and grabbed a screenshot. If someone wants to have a document to post them down, that would be great. If nobody else can I can create one and list it up publicly ASAP to keep record so new polls can come up. ^^

I want to give my own input about the VRs all being on the list- I personally believe this actually may be a really good idea to help people understand what their pets are worth and how to trade up and down. I understand the current rares list only wants to recognize the "rarest" pets, but this is something entirely new and it actually makes a lot of sense to change this up. But I'd say priority is pets that switched to VR when a list did and did not drop since.

[lil rascal]

I can see how having a list including all VRs could be helpful in terms of people seeing where their VRs fall in the spectrum, though I think it may make trading harder as people would no longer happily just swap non-list VRs. Not something that will really affect me as I only have 4 pages of pets left to collect but something for others to keep in mind - do they really want to tie down trading even more?

However if this list is going to include all VRs I'm still confused about what this current poll is actually asking me to vote on?

[Sinbreaker]

I can see how having a list including all VRs could be helpful in terms of people seeing where their VRs fall in the spectrum, though I think it may make trading harder as people would no longer happily just swap non-list VRs. Not something that will really affect me as I only have 4 pages of pets left to collect but something for others to keep in mind - do they really want to tie down trading even more?

However if this list is going to include all VRs I'm still confused about what this current poll is actually asking me to vote on?

We can disregard the current poll at this time as it seems people had conflicting ideas on what it means. So we can rework a new poll now that it's been recorded.

In terms of list creation, I think users just need to perceive this as a guide. How they use it to trade can be more up to them. Currently the Rare's List has the UR Tiger at the top of the list, verses in this list we might see (for example, to early to say) the Zebras at the top. When trading with their partner they can use both list to reference and try to work something out and work out values.

Regarding the poll!

I'll put up a new one in a moment, now that we have a defining term for "older pets". I am not the best at formulating good explanations so if someone could write up a good summary of pros/cons to our two next options I'll put "info on page ##" to direct users to your post.

So far I think our two options I've seen is:

Have a cut off date- with exceptions
Have no cut off date, open to all VRs

[kee;]

Perosnally, I think it would be best to my have a cutoff date.
Some pets who are released after (whatever date is decided) could still be just as or more rare than pets within the cutoff. I think all pets should have the opportunity to be included.

-kee