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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby Animall » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:09 pm

Shadow.Labsky wrote:https://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/viewtrade.php?id=77597645&userid=891221&signature=gN3j-FdiNvDeUZ5SbJk80A


edit: help on this too!! trades/viewtrade.php?id=77600815&userid=891221&signature=xjEkMRKa3d5EV4U2rXHNTA

What is the demand of the dogtag?
I know it's placed higher on the list.
I've been offered a sunjewel for my sunback *more than once*. Is the dogtag going for sunjewels?

"well, do you want the dogtag?"
Not exactly. I thought it was a nontag (which is what I want, silly enough. I think it's a lot cuter than the yes dogtag, hah..)
Please help ASAP.

Dogtag: 3 nons
Sunback: 2 nons

I get it's overtrade for them but what's the demand of dogtag? Sunback has crazy demand recently.


First trade: Dogtag = 3 nons / sunback = 2 nons.
I personally would not accept this. The dogtag is an absolute PAIN to trade, as its high up the list and doesn't have much demand. It usually goes for underpay. They are overpaying, technically, but factoring in the poor demand of the dogtag and the great demand of the sunback - Id call it unfair to you. But it all depends on how you value the pets personally.

The second trade: BA = td, so goes for around 2 sorbs - 1 non / ur lion = 1 non + green toxic.
If you value the sunback at 2 nons, then they are overpaying. The sunback does have decent demand and can fetch overpay though, so again, its up to you where you value the sunback. Demand has no strict value.
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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby boston » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:12 pm

Clawdina wrote:
boston wrote:
TD galaxy set = ur bee?

please take demand into account, i know list wise it is unfair.
all opinions appreciated <3


The ur bee often goes for it's value and occasionally more but not too much more from my experiences. The TD galaxy set (from what I've heard mostly) goes four about 2 nons but the occasional person will pay a non and a half for each of them, so going to the right person, the td galaxy set could probably go for about 3 nons

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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby GhostPants » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:18 pm

Gasoline wrote:
Gasoline wrote:Which bid is the best out of all of these, and are any of them fair considering demand and rarity?

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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby Animall » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:23 pm

sparrow; wrote:Is this fair?
trades/viewtrade.php?id=77608988&userid=50086&signature=DlByc0fitVvZ0itDB04KcA
Thanks in advance for any help c:


Your side is worth a late 09 rare, and theres is worth a late 2010 rare. The tree doesnt cover the gap so it is unfair to you.
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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby boston » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:27 pm

boston wrote:
TD galaxy set = ur bee?

please take demand into account, i know list wise it is unfair.
all opinions appreciated <3

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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby Thovatos » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:28 pm

Shadow.Labsky wrote:https://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/viewtrade.php?id=77597645&userid=891221&signature=gN3j-FdiNvDeUZ5SbJk80A


edit: help on this too!! trades/viewtrade.php?id=77600815&userid=891221&signature=xjEkMRKa3d5EV4U2rXHNTA

What is the demand of the dogtag?
I know it's placed higher on the list.
I've been offered a sunjewel for my sunback *more than once*. Is the dogtag going for sunjewels?

"well, do you want the dogtag?"
Not exactly. I thought it was a nontag (which is what I want, silly enough. I think it's a lot cuter than the yes dogtag, hah..)
Please help ASAP.

Dogtag: 3 nons
Sunback: 2 nons

I get it's overtrade for them but what's the demand of dogtag? Sunback has crazy demand recently.



Let me put it simply. Users differ on what they will trade for a specific pet person to person. Any answer you get will be based on opinion, which is what demand really is: opinion.

As for the Dogtag for sunback situation, I think it's important for us to talk about high up mainlist pets (I.E. Above Gap {Ag} Mainlists). It is important to note that many people don't always have the full funds to buy higher up lists. This is why some pets like the zebras, Sunjewel, and moonswirl often fetch less than their rarity worths (in terms of quantity, but that's another conversation for another day lol). Not to mention, some people just do not prefer some of these pets compared to others, which can also drop pricing. I must EMPHASIZE here that there are people who ARE willing to pay full prices for these pets, so please don't think that no one will pay the rarity prices for pets like the zebras or moonswirls, ect., because people will and do pay those prices for those pets. (Though less often than people should!) With this in mind, we should begin to talk about the sunback. The sunback is one of the few AG mainlists that actually go for more than their list placement more times than not. I have seen crazy trades for sunbacks, but these trades don't happen as often as they use to, from what I see. This carries out my basic understand of the sunback for now. Let us continue:

As you stated, people have offered sunjewels on more than one occasion, but I think it's best we talk about how much some of these other AG mainlists 'normally' (normally used in terms with 'demand', which is solely based on the trades I have seen, and not by these pets' rarity worth) fetch in-terms of trading.

Sunjewel- 4-5 nons
Dogtag- Typically 2 nons
Moonswirl- 3-4 nons
UR-Bwolf- 1/1.5-2+ nons
Zebras- 1 non
Sunback- list placement value-5/6 nons


In all, this really depends on who you trade and how much you and your partner value these pets. Personally if I got a dogtag offer for my sunback, I would keep the sunback, simply because I hear many people have issues trading off their dogtag's fairly. The same situation goes for the sunjewel and the moonswirls, but I like the sunjewel. Even at 4-5 nons worth, I would still like to have a pet that has it's worth set at around a value and okay demand. For all we know, the sunback could loose it's crazy demand by tomorrow. However, you will have much easier chances of getting overpay/higher quantity for the sunback than you would per-say a sunjewel. I would keep your sunback, but please remember this is my opinion. Refer back to my little disclaimer again! No one can give you a set value on demand, as it is impossible to know how much every player values each pet at any given time!
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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby Animall » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:31 pm

Thovatos wrote:
Shadow.Labsky wrote:https://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/viewtrade.php?id=77597645&userid=891221&signature=gN3j-FdiNvDeUZ5SbJk80A


edit: help on this too!! trades/viewtrade.php?id=77600815&userid=891221&signature=xjEkMRKa3d5EV4U2rXHNTA

What is the demand of the dogtag?
I know it's placed higher on the list.
I've been offered a sunjewel for my sunback *more than once*. Is the dogtag going for sunjewels?

"well, do you want the dogtag?"
Not exactly. I thought it was a nontag (which is what I want, silly enough. I think it's a lot cuter than the yes dogtag, hah..)
Please help ASAP.

Dogtag: 3 nons
Sunback: 2 nons

I get it's overtrade for them but what's the demand of dogtag? Sunback has crazy demand recently.



-snip-

Sunjewel- 4-5 nons
Dogtag- Typically 2 nons
Moonswirl- 3-4 nons
UR-Bwolf- 1/1.5-2+ nons
Zebras- 1 non
Sunback- list placement value-5/6 nons


-snip-


I agree with everything you said, but I disagree here. The sunback does not go for 5-6 nons typically. People ask for that amount because of greed. Nobody really pays that much anymore.
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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby Thovatos » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:33 pm

Animall wrote:
Thovatos wrote:
Shadow.Labsky wrote:https://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/viewtrade.php?id=77597645&userid=891221&signature=gN3j-FdiNvDeUZ5SbJk80A


edit: help on this too!! trades/viewtrade.php?id=77600815&userid=891221&signature=xjEkMRKa3d5EV4U2rXHNTA

What is the demand of the dogtag?
I know it's placed higher on the list.
I've been offered a sunjewel for my sunback *more than once*. Is the dogtag going for sunjewels?

"well, do you want the dogtag?"
Not exactly. I thought it was a nontag (which is what I want, silly enough. I think it's a lot cuter than the yes dogtag, hah..)
Please help ASAP.

Dogtag: 3 nons
Sunback: 2 nons

I get it's overtrade for them but what's the demand of dogtag? Sunback has crazy demand recently.



-snip-

Sunjewel- 4-5 nons
Dogtag- Typically 2 nons
Moonswirl- 3-4 nons
UR-Bwolf- 1/1.5-2+ nons
Zebras- 1 non
Sunback- list placement value-5/6 nons


-snip-


I agree with everything you said, but I disagree here. The sunback does not go for 5-6 nons typically. People ask for that amount because of greed. Nobody really pays that much anymore.



I can see. What shaped my opinion there is from what I see on the list swap guide(Edit: meant to say thread here). I see some of those sunbacks go to new owners and I just assumed that they got the trade they were asking for. Thank you for your input, Animal <3
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