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Re: The "Is This a Fair Trade?" Thread

Postby Castiel Winchester » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:28 pm

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Castiel Winchester wrote:Just to clarify...
I'm not confused, correct? The Light leo is worth 2 mid advents and a 2009 rare (15 mid advents)
Thier pets are worth 6, 6, and 3 (15 mid advents)
Rarity wise, this is perfectly fair, right?? They're telling me they were over-paying because my leo is only worth 2 advents..

The light leo is worth Red Dragon & Early '09 Rare Dog, so generally it is worth 2 Mid Advents and Early '09 Rare Dog or Low&High Advent and Early '09 Rare Dog. So really to make the fair trade you'd have to remove the grown white scarf dog and replace it with an early '09 rare dog^^.


But their 2 list pets are not mid advents (tier 7s), and I have always seen tier 5 advents traded as being valued at 6 2009 rares. I have seriously never seen anything other than a tier seven considered a mid advent except for grouping purposes sometimes, and I've been trading lists for a mighty good chunk of time.

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5-7th tier are considered mid advents. So not just 7th tier. In all my years, I have always considered those three tiers to be mid advents and many people I work with do too. When trading list pets for other list pets, we don't use the 09 rare break down very much because thats very percise. Yes its worth 14-15 09 rares, but that comes from the 7th tier worth. Thats more like an unofficial value, and its more common for it to be seen as two mid advents plus some
Anyways just the two 5th tier advents and an 09 rare should be enough


This is seriously the first time in hearing of this :/ I have always used precise break downs with any kind of,trades like this, and this is the first I'm hearing of it not,being standard to break it down this way. Which doesn't make a whole lot of,sense to me, because I've asked about trades just like this plenty of times before and have ways been told that a mid advent is a 7th tier and that break downs are best done down to 09 rares.
I guess it comes,down to preference, but that seems like short changing it; I would,have consider a tier 5 being worth a mid,advent in a trade unless it were bulky.
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This is becoming a HUGE issue in causing inflated and outrageous demand, and holds very little merit. If you are getting offers that are well beyond the worth of your pet, congrats. Please stop pretending that is the normal going rate of the pet, as it really usually is not.
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Re: The "Is This a Fair Trade?" Thread

Postby Niragi » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:34 pm

How fair would this trade be demand wise?
And what would have to be added to which side? Thanks for any help ^^

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Re: The "Is This a Fair Trade?" Thread

Postby ~ t r o u b l e ~ » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:35 pm

Castiel Winchester wrote:
~ t r o u b l e ~ wrote:
5-7th tier are considered mid advents. So not just 7th tier. In all my years, I have always considered those three tiers to be mid advents and many people I work with do too. When trading list pets for other list pets, we don't use the 09 rare break down very much because thats very percise. Yes its worth 14-15 09 rares, but that comes from the 7th tier worth. Thats more like an unofficial value, and its more common for it to be seen as two mid advents plus some
Anyways just the two 5th tier advents and an 09 rare should be enough


This is seriously the first time in hearing of this :/ I have always used precise break downs with any kind of,trades like this, and this is the first I'm hearing of it not,being standard to break it down this way. Which doesn't make a whole lot of,sense to me, because I've asked about trades just like this plenty of times before and have ways been told that a mid advent is a 7th tier and that break downs are best done down to 09 rares.
I guess it comes,down to preference, but that seems like short changing it; I would,have consider a tier 5 being worth a mid,advent in a trade unless it were bulky.

the gaps list isnt supposed to be used to an exact T, its more of a reference and a vague/rough guide. Its only a guide and can be fudged with a ton. Considering only a single tier as mid advents is pretty restricting ^^
I never use 09 rare break downs. Its again, too constricting. List pets are too rare to be counted as exact rare worths, not considering the advent list mostly. That why the list isn't a point system and what not. Otherwise if you are one rare off on a list pet trade, people would get supper fussy, and thats not what the list is meant to do c:




Spoopy Season wrote:http://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/viewtrade.php?id=58017922&userid=225789&signature=u19O4TdAdHlgkBPUgQDtmw

Freaking out because there are too many pets :X
Thanks in advance!

The 45c$ is worth an 09 rare/ very rare, so looks unfair to them ^^
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Re: The "Is This a Fair Trade?" Thread

Postby Niragi » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:36 pm

Skysa wrote:How fair would this trade be demand wise?
And what would have to be added to which side? Thanks for any help ^^

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Re: The "Is This a Fair Trade?" Thread

Postby AdNuminousNot » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:38 pm

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I'm hoping to end my auction soon and was hoping to get a bit more advice. I have the first bid for both in the lead, does that seem right? Would it be a fair trade? I'm not sure I'm going to get any more bids but don't want to get less than they're worth. )
Thanks for any help!
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Re: The "Is This a Fair Trade?" Thread

Postby Imabox » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:40 pm

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How fair is this to either of our sides? There is a lot of pets with demand on their side so I just wanted to see if it was overpay with demand or technically still overpay on the Bee's side. Which if it is unfair to the Bee that is fine by me.

I had one person say it was still unfair to the Bee would need to add a Red Toxic or Sorbet. I just wanted to get a second opinion ^^
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Re: The "Is This a Fair Trade?" Thread

Postby ~ t r o u b l e ~ » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:43 pm

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How fair is this to either of our sides? There is a lot of pets with demand on their side so I just wanted to see if it was overpay with demand or technically still overpay on the Bee's side. Which if it is unfair to the Bee that is fine by me.

I had one person say it was still unfair to the Bee would need to add a Red Toxic or Sorbet. I just wanted to get a second opinion ^^

how are you valuing the BA? I value it at a sorb, which means they need to add an aussie plus a low mainlist or so. But if you value it at a non, about a UR holly plus a low mainlist should be added






















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Re: The "Is This a Fair Trade?" Thread

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Re: The "Is This a Fair Trade?" Thread

Postby Spoopy Season » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:45 pm

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Re: The "Is This a Fair Trade?" Thread

Postby Imabox » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:55 pm

~ t r o u b l e ~ wrote:
Imabox wrote:
Imabox wrote:
How fair is this to either of our sides? There is a lot of pets with demand on their side so I just wanted to see if it was overpay with demand or technically still overpay on the Bee's side. Which if it is unfair to the Bee that is fine by me.

I had one person say it was still unfair to the Bee would need to add a Red Toxic or Sorbet. I just wanted to get a second opinion ^^

how are you valuing the BA? I value it at a sorb, which means they need to add an aussie plus a low mainlist or so. But if you value it at a non, about a UR holly plus a low mainlist should be added

I'm valuing it at about a Sorbet - Purple Toxic area as I've seen it go to Hollys but I more commonly see it go for Sorbets + Rares. Also there is a UR Lion in the mix. I just couldn't tell if the calculation included that or not XD
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