Auction Rant Thread

[ghastlymirror]

a few minutes ago, this person made me a trade asking for 6 of my 2011 cats, so i went to add the user´s pets and found:
one spider from this month. Are you dang kidding me?
so logically i cancelled the trade.

[Dorky Displeasure]

rant; People who auction pets that obviously have no demand. You are wasting everybody's time, since hardly anybody will want to pay fair for it. Would you pay fair for a sorbet while you can get one with a BA? i think not (just an example btw). No demand means don't auction it e.e

I see too much of this. I've recently seen about 5+ auctions with Omgsc-Uncommon pets with horrid demand.
I really think CS should somehow re-teach people(Mostly new members) about demand/rarity/fairness of pets.
The way the CS economy is now a days...It's driving me nuts. >.<

What if it was a 150 pet hoard and they were actioning that off? What would your opinion on that be?

[Sen507]

rant; People who auction pets that obviously have no demand. You are wasting everybody's time, since hardly anybody will want to pay fair for it. Would you pay fair for a sorbet while you can get one with a BA? i think not (just an example btw). No demand means don't auction it e.e

But by that are you saying that I should not be auctioning my Blue Sorbet just because the BAs have crazy enough demand that they go for Sorbets? I'm only auctioning my extra Sorbet because that's the only way I'll ever get any offers at all for it. I don't want it just sitting on my account forever, and without an auction, I get absolutely no offers for it. At least I get a few close to fair ones every now and then with an auction. I can see the problem when people auction pets with almost no value, or especially almost no value and no demand, but sometimes auctions are the only way to trade off lower demand but high value pets.

[Noel]

rant; People who auction pets that obviously have no demand. You are wasting everybody's time, since hardly anybody will want to pay fair for it. Would you pay fair for a sorbet while you can get one with a BA? i think not (just an example btw). No demand means don't auction it e.e

Considering I came here to rant about my little demand-less auction, I figured I better respond to this. .-.

Some of us really don't have any other way of getting valuable pets. I'm not expecting any sort of fair bid for a speckled rat, but I don't have any other main list pets or september lists, and I don't like the rat. A lot of users can't pick and choose what they're trying to trade off. >_<"

[DaDwarf]

rant; People who auction pets that obviously have no demand. You are wasting everybody's time, since hardly anybody will want to pay fair for it. Would you pay fair for a sorbet while you can get one with a BA? i think not (just an example btw). No demand means don't auction it e.e

I see too much of this. I've recently seen about 5+ auctions with Omgsc-Uncommon pets with horrid demand.
I really think CS should somehow re-teach people(Mostly new members) about demand/rarity/fairness of pets.
The way the CS economy is now a days...It's driving me nuts. >.<

What if it was a 150 pet hoard and they were actioning that off? What would your opinion on that be?

auction off 150 of a no in demand pet. How much use does that have? I'd personally just find a hoarder and pm them. Much faster, if you want a fair trade.

rant; People who auction pets that obviously have no demand. You are wasting everybody's time, since hardly anybody will want to pay fair for it. Would you pay fair for a sorbet while you can get one with a BA? i think not (just an example btw). No demand means don't auction it e.e

But by that are you saying that I should not be auctioning my Blue Sorbet just because the BAs have crazy enough demand that they go for Sorbets? I'm only auctioning my extra Sorbet because that's the only way I'll ever get any offers at all for it. I don't want it just sitting on my account forever, and without an auction, I get absolutely no offers for it. At least I get a few close to fair ones every now and then with an auction. I can see the problem when people auction pets with almost no value, or especially almost no value and no demand, but sometimes auctions are the only way to trade off lower demand but high value pets.

I'm saying, don't auction something with low demand off and expect fair trades. People will underoffer, because they know they can get the exact same pet for much less. If you want quicker results, trade it off, put effort into it instead of waiting for a fair offer ^.^

rant; People who auction pets that obviously have no demand. You are wasting everybody's time, since hardly anybody will want to pay fair for it. Would you pay fair for a sorbet while you can get one with a BA? i think not (just an example btw). No demand means don't auction it e.e

Considering I came here to rant about my little demand-less auction, I figured I better respond to this. .-.

Some of us really don't have any other way of getting valuable pets. I'm not expecting any sort of fair bid for a speckled rat, but I don't have any other main list pets or september lists, and I don't like the rat. A lot of users can't pick and choose what they're trying to trade off. >_<"

I'm sorry, but i don't see why you would say the things i underlined. As if i get rare pets floating my way and just pick randomly whatever i have for trade. If your intentions are to get me riled up then nice try but that didn't work ^.^ I don't pick my fodder either, i traded my way up to what i have now, i put allot of time and money into trading.

I recently traded a light speckled rat for a balloon dog, and i traded the balloon dog for a rainbow mare. How? Simple. I had the rat, i send out close to 100 trades for it and someone accept it just for a blue balloon dog. I swapped the balloon dog with my friend since she needed blue. I looked around on the trade and auction forums, trying to find a suitable pet to trade for. I stumbled upon an auction with a woodwing and i read the user saying something about having a rainbow mare bid. I then put up an auction thread to see if i could get this anon user to bid on my pet, and sure, within 2 hours they bid their rainbow mare and i accepted. and that's how you trade smart.

Like i said above, putting up an auction for a low demand has little use. It only gets you frustrated and leaves you with many unfair bids (And an occasional fair one). I wouldn't put it the time of holding an auction for a sorbet or a speckled rat unless i had a target (Such as extreme underpay). Then maybe. But never if i wanted a fair offer, you'll be way faster sending out a bunch of trades.

[Faymutt95]

For a halloween bat...

Autos (for one bat):
♦ 3 or more Very Rares
♦ 1 OMG so Rare
♦ Shima Longtail/Joker

[Foxtress]

Saw an auction
One of the bids?
Nothing on the bidder's side.
..what

[Noel]

rant; People who auction pets that obviously have no demand. You are wasting everybody's time, since hardly anybody will want to pay fair for it. Would you pay fair for a sorbet while you can get one with a BA? i think not (just an example btw). No demand means don't auction it e.e

Considering I came here to rant about my little demand-less auction, I figured I better respond to this. .-.

Some of us really don't have any other way of getting valuable pets. I'm not expecting any sort of fair bid for a speckled rat, but I don't have any other main list pets or september lists, and I don't like the rat. A lot of users can't pick and choose what they're trying to trade off. >_<"

I'm sorry, but i don't see why you would say the things i underlined. As if i get rare pets floating my way and just pick randomly whatever i have for trade. If your intentions are to get me riled up then nice try but that didn't work ^.^ I don't pick my fodder either, i traded my way up to what i have now, i put allot of time and money into trading.

I recently traded a light speckled rat for a balloon dog, and i traded the balloon dog for a rainbow mare. How? Simple. I had the rat, i send out close to 100 trades for it and someone accept it just for a blue balloon dog. I swapped the balloon dog with my friend since she needed blue. I looked around on the trade and auction forums, trying to find a suitable pet to trade for. I stumbled upon an auction with a woodwing and i read the user saying something about having a rainbow mare bid. I then put up an auction thread to see if i could get this anon user to bid on my pet, and sure, within 2 hours they bid their rainbow mare and i accepted. and that's how you trade smart.

Like i said above, putting up an auction for a low demand has little use. It only gets you frustrated and leaves you with many unfair bids (And an occasional fair one). I wouldn't put it the time of holding an auction for a sorbet or a speckled rat unless i had a target (Such as extreme underpay). Then maybe. But never if i wanted a fair offer, you'll be way faster sending out a bunch of trades.

Note: I changed my username back, but this is still Lament & Nostalgia.

That's not what I was trying to say at all. I'm using myself and my account partner as examples, but we're probably part of a fairly large group. We don't have pets to pick and choose from to auction and try to trade off; we're got a grand total of one list pet, save for one that was a gift and won't be traded. It's not like we can pull a pet with demand out of nowhere to auction.
Some of us don't have a lot of time to put into trading, and aren't here completely for pets. And many more users either don't or can't -in my case the latter- buy C$, so there goes the money aspect.
As for 'trading smartly', I ask you to take a look at our respective join dates. Technically this account has been here over a year, but I joined onto it about six months later, and my account partner who started the account never trades. Still a long time, but nothing compared to your three years. Some of us really aren't capable of trading fairly; we haven't had hours and hours to send trades and learn slowly. You say sending out trades would be faster; you're a highly experienced user(considering I've seen you help around the FFT and not be called out for giving bad advice, I'd say it's a safe assumption). If you send a trade ,chances are it won't be scamming anyone. If I did with this rat, I'd either get someone angry at me for an 'attempted scam' or scam myself worse then I possibly could in an auction. That's what happens when you get a rares list out of the blue.
And which is really worse? To quote your first post:

You are wasting everybody's time, since hardly anybody will want to pay fair for it... No demand means don't auction it e.e

Just to start, this was pretty rude to all of us who only have low demand pets and can't send trade for them(reasons previously mentioned).
And tell me, which is really worse? Getting a terrible trade with said low demand pet on one end because the sender doesn't know better, or seeing one more low-demand auction? I imagine most people would say the former.
In my case, I'm not hoping for fair bids, but I think holding that auction is a lot less rude then sending out potentially disastrous trades to users who actually understand rarities and all/scamming myself and my account partner badly.
And the scam trades is assuming the user even has time to send 'hundreds of trades' as you put it. Which I imagine 95% of users don't.
Auctions are much faster.
Note #2: I'm skipping over your story about the rainbowmane/ballon dog, since that's not the original subject.
Note #3:

If your intentions are to get me riled up then nice try but that didn't work ^.^


I find it really rude that you put that. I was just trying to state an argument. Why would you find it necessary to say that? Even if that was the case, it would be assumed from how you worded your response if my 'attempt to rile you up' worked. What were you trying to accomplish? Make me look like I was trying to do something I wasn't? That still wouldn't change anything, so I just can't see the point, other then to bother me, and I can't imagine why you would feel the need to do that to a random user you've never spoken to before.

[DaDwarf]

I think i'm allowed to rant about auctions the way i see fit. So when i say that i find auctions with lesser in demand pets a waste of time, then i can say that on here. period.

Everybody can learn rarities, my join date has nothing to do with the fact that i know rarities. I might have joined in 09 but you assume that i had/have great pets from the start or knew my rarities, from the start, which is false. I only started trading during december 09, got scammed quite a bit and only started learning rarities mid 2010. Everybody can trade smartly, regardless of join dates. Heck, i see users that just joined 5 days ago with rareslist pets, because they trade smart. If they can do it, so can you. You are assuming that people will shout at you or call you a scammer if you send an trade but i really doubt that is true. There are over 200k people on CS and i've never met a person who has shouted at me for sending them an underpay offer.

If you are looking for an under-offer on your rat, put effort in it and find someone who wants it, but can't pay for it. There's more then enough people like that out there ;P Waiting for those people will cost allot of time, time that can be saved if you search for those people yourself.

As for your last point, your post very much seemed like you were attacking me, since i'm an older user with basically all pets and good trading fodder. It's fine if you didn't mean it that way, but that's how i understood it and that's why i put that comment. I have the right to say what i want to say in my replies, i felt that was needed in my post.

Anyways, this is getting off-topic and i'm not interested in arguing with you further. I've seen you around on the forums and i'm not interested in speaking about this anymore.


rant; Insane overpay bids for staff pups that don't get accepted. 170 staff puppies, bid is a patchwork and it isn't an auto..what??

[gothic knight]

Considering I came here to rant about my little demand-less auction, I figured I better respond to this. .-.

Some of us really don't have any other way of getting valuable pets. I'm not expecting any sort of fair bid for a speckled rat, but I don't have any other main list pets or september lists, and I don't like the rat. A lot of users can't pick and choose what they're trying to trade off. >_<"

I'm sorry, but i don't see why you would say the things i underlined. As if i get rare pets floating my way and just pick randomly whatever i have for trade. If your intentions are to get me riled up then nice try but that didn't work ^.^ I don't pick my fodder either, i traded my way up to what i have now, i put allot of time and money into trading.

I recently traded a light speckled rat for a balloon dog, and i traded the balloon dog for a rainbow mare. How? Simple. I had the rat, i send out close to 100 trades for it and someone accept it just for a blue balloon dog. I swapped the balloon dog with my friend since she needed blue. I looked around on the trade and auction forums, trying to find a suitable pet to trade for. I stumbled upon an auction with a woodwing and i read the user saying something about having a rainbow mare bid. I then put up an auction thread to see if i could get this anon user to bid on my pet, and sure, within 2 hours they bid their rainbow mare and i accepted. and that's how you trade smart.

Like i said above, putting up an auction for a low demand has little use. It only gets you frustrated and leaves you with many unfair bids (And an occasional fair one). I wouldn't put it the time of holding an auction for a sorbet or a speckled rat unless i had a target (Such as extreme underpay). Then maybe. But never if i wanted a fair offer, you'll be way faster sending out a bunch of trades.

Note: I changed my username back, but this is still Lament & Nostalgia.

That's not what I was trying to say at all. I'm using myself and my account partner as examples, but we're probably part of a fairly large group. We don't have pets to pick and choose from to auction and try to trade off; we're got a grand total of one list pet, save for one that was a gift and won't be traded. It's not like we can pull a pet with demand out of nowhere to auction.
Some of us don't have a lot of time to put into trading, and aren't here completely for pets. And many more users either don't or can't -in my case the latter- buy C$, so there goes the money aspect.
As for 'trading smartly', I ask you to take a look at our respective join dates. Technically this account has been here over a year, but I joined onto it about six months later, and my account partner who started the account never trades. Still a long time, but nothing compared to your three years. Some of us really aren't capable of trading fairly; we haven't had hours and hours to send trades and learn slowly. You say sending out trades would be faster; you're a highly experienced user(considering I've seen you help around the FFT and not be called out for giving bad advice, I'd say it's a safe assumption). If you send a trade ,chances are it won't be scamming anyone. If I did with this rat, I'd either get someone angry at me for an 'attempted scam' or scam myself worse then I possibly could in an auction. That's what happens when you get a rares list out of the blue.
And which is really worse? To quote your first post:

You are wasting everybody's time, since hardly anybody will want to pay fair for it... No demand means don't auction it e.e

Just to start, this was pretty rude to all of us who only have low demand pets and can't send trade for them(reasons previously mentioned).
And tell me, which is really worse? Getting a terrible trade with said low demand pet on one end because the sender doesn't know better, or seeing one more low-demand auction? I imagine most people would say the former.
In my case, I'm not hoping for fair bids, but I think holding that auction is a lot less rude then sending out potentially disastrous trades to users who actually understand rarities and all/scamming myself and my account partner badly.
And the scam trades is assuming the user even has time to send 'hundreds of trades' as you put it. Which I imagine 95% of users don't.
Auctions are much faster.
Note #2: I'm skipping over your story about the rainbowmane/ballon dog, since that's not the original subject.
Note #3:

If your intentions are to get me riled up then nice try but that didn't work ^.^


I find it really rude that you put that. I was just trying to state an argument. Why would you find it necessary to say that? Even if that was the case, it would be assumed from how you worded your response if my 'attempt to rile you up' worked. What were you trying to accomplish? Make me look like I was trying to do something I wasn't? That still wouldn't change anything, so I just can't see the point, other then to bother me, and I can't imagine why you would feel the need to do that to a random user you've never spoken to before.

okee, i wanted to bounce on in here. i agree that it's difficult to get list pets, even ones on the lowest tier of the advent list. and auctions would be an ideal place to trade them up, but take this into consideration;

auctions in real life depend largely on people wanting that particular object - someone places a bid, someone tries to outbid them, and the prices keep getting driven up. without that demand, there is essentially nothing there. now transfer that concept to CS pets. you see it a bit better now?

for the fair trades thing... the FTT is there for a reason. if you're not sure about it, you can easily make a post on the thread or visit the xat. there are certain users willing to help you if you message them too. and plus, if the person you're trying to trade with is kind and experienced, i'm quite sure they'd be willing to help you figure out a decent trade. c;

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moving on, it's really frustrating to see people that have very low-valued pets for auction and demand ridiculous boosters/autos, and then wonder why they have nobody bidding. vuv it's like, somebody could help you pick out good autos and boosters, but they just wouldn't accept the help. :I then they get frustrated, and it's like a never-ending circle.

someone's autos/boosters for a low advent and some '09 rares...

AUTOS...

UR Tiger dog
UR 09 dog
Any piece of fruit
Target Dog/Red X dog/PPS

BOOSTERS

Tess Mint horse
08 pets... mainly dogs
Rares list/advent list pets
Raven dog <3
Element cats.
Malk dragon's'

see what i mean? ;A;